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#5251
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Lots of people don't die around the same time as their partners. I wasn't saying they have to give a happy ending to a Blackwall romance I just find it odd that everyone is saying he's dying because he's both old and a warden if his info had said he was close to his calling then I could see it but since it doesn't I really don't get it is all.

Maybe Blackwall isn't close to his calling but it seems more likely because he is older. If he would be like 20 then everything would be different. The thing for me is that if Blackwall has like 2 years left of his life and my PC would love him then she would be left alone and not have a possibility to have a happy ending with her LI.



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To be honest, I will be surprised if Blackwall's calling isn't a big part of his plot. It's hard for me to imagine that he's not already getting close. It was implied that Duncan was and Blackwall looks quite a bit older, imo.  


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#5253
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I think part of the angst (I know mine is), is that the 'exclusive straight' romance option may be limited to one of the NPCs and not a full companion character as the exclusively gay characters are.
 
Which was poorly done on their part in ME3.
And the whole idea is that two wrongs don't make a right.


Yeah that's the clear worrisome gaping hole of despair whilst there isn't any confirmation on straight companions.
I view notion as completely wrong but till it's booted into long grass by facts I'm not willing to be blasé about it.

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When did blackwall become a grey warden? Any one know?



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If you aren't prepared for that then don't get into a relationship with them I also don't know where you're getting an impression of me saying the calling is no big deal, I just said that if unless the info on Blackwall has him close to his calling than I don't count him as a dying man and if he is close to his calling than he shouldn't be joining the inquisition. I'm saying I don't see how people consider him a dying man since we don't have much of an idea on how close to his calling he is and if he's that close than he shouldn't be joining up if he can't keep up. It's like getting into a romance with say Anders after you find out he's possessed if you aren't prepared for what could happen because of that then you shouldn't get into a relationship with him but I still don't get how you're thinking that I'm considering the taint as no big deal or equal to dying another way, I just said it's rare for partners to die around the same time.

 

OMG are even reading what I said?

 

I wouldn't get in a romance with them. Which is probably why I don't want them to be the lone straight option. So I have additional options that aren't them. Wardens are dying men on the battlefield all the time. It's kind of their job they usually have those closest to kicking the buckets kill archie.

 

Agreed about Anders. Which is why on my characters I didn't want dealing with that I romanced Fenris. (I usually romanced Anders when I wanted my characters completely miserable).

 

Also I already answered the whole dying at the same time. There's a difference in dying at the same time and dying horribly.

 

Alone in the dark with a bunch of monsters that you're slowly becoming while suffering nightmares, or having your breathing system shut down on you slowly are terrible deaths.


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Oh man, I hope that wasn't directed at me. :( Take my complaints as a reflection of how DO NOT WANT I am about Cullen and Solas (and my initial femquisitor is going to be a dwarf, so not much want in the IB department), not at all a complaint about gay companions. I'm actually really happy that gay people get to feel really represented for real for once.

 

Nah, it was directed at the person who equated the current DA:I LI situation with the ME3 setup. 


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You should NEVER plan ahead until the options are fully revealed.

I've seen people getting their "canon" Inquisitors ready, and planning to romance them to people that might not even be LIs.

 

OR available to them. Like, even though I've heard a lot of people planning on doing this, Cullen might not be romancable by Qunari Males. People should steel themselves for the possibility their headcanons might not be able to happen.


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When did blackwall become a grey warden? Any one know?

 

We don't know when but he was Warden-Constable by the time of DAO



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Meh I plan my characters early. If the LIs don't fit they don't fit. I'll either find another LI or have them romance their hand. No big loss.


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Yeah that's the clear worrisome gaping hole of despair whilst there isn't any confirmation on straight companions.
I view notion as completely wrong but till it's booted into long grass by facts I'm not willing to be blasé about it.

If there are four bisexual companions and two wholly straight NPCs, that's still no companion romances lost for straight people.



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OMG are even reading what I said?

 

I wouldn't get in a romance with them. Which is probably why I don't want them to be the lone straight option. So I have additional options that aren't them. Wardens are dying men on the battlefield all the time. It's kind of their job they usually have those closest to kicking the buckets kill archie.

 

Agreed about Anders. Which is why on my characters I didn't want dealing with that I romanced Fenris. (I usually romanced Anders when I wanted my characters completely miserable).

 

Also I already answered the whole dying at the same time. There's a difference in dying at the same time and dying horribly.

 

Alone in the dark with a bunch of monsters that you're slowly becoming, or having your breathing system shut down on you slowly are not good deaths.

 

I find Thane's death much more horrifying than the Grey Warden Calling, to be perfectly honest, especially since Grey Wardens are likely to go get themselves killed before their Calling ANYway (during this time period, anyway!). They face death every day. They could die tomorrow from a stray sword thrust. My Inquisitor is a fighter, she also faces death every day. I just can't see her having issues with the "well, he'll die one day either from the taint or from his Calling." He'd have to live that long first, and she'd be well aware neither of them might make it that far.

 

Dying fighting the monsters you've dedicated your life to fighting is a good death, imo. Not a happy one, but a good one.



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ME3 option for strait female were really bad. There were Garrus and Kaidan, but you could only romance Garrus if youve romanced him in ME2. I'm worrid that female romance option are gonna suck again. We are not all Cullan funs...


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Nah, it was directed at the person who compared the current DA:I LI situation with the ME3 setup.


Because his male PC can't romance a female elf. That's what he's comparing to the Mass Effect setup.
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Only thing I plan out for a first play through is what sex/race/class I am going to play.

 

Everything else is up in the air.


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OMG are even reading what I said?

 

I wouldn't get in a romance with them. Which is probably why I don't want them to be the lone straight option. So I have additional options that aren't them. Wardens are dying men on the battlefield all the time. It's kind of their job they usually have those closest to kicking the buckets kill archie.

 

Agreed about Anders. Which is why on my characters I didn't want dealing with that I romanced Fenris. (I usually romanced Anders when I wanted my characters completely miserable).

 

Also I already answered the whole dying at the same time. There's a difference in dying at the same time and dying horribly.

 

Alone in the dark with a bunch of monsters that you're slowly becoming while suffering nightmares, or having your breathing system shut down on you slowly are terrible deaths.

He's not the sole straight option; Cullen's confirmed.

 

Also, the Warden thing can be averted if you use Avernus' research.



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I find Thane's death much more horrifying than the Grey Warden Calling, to be perfectly honest, especially since Grey Wardens are likely to go get themselves killed before their Calling ANYway (during this time period, anyway!). They face death every day. They could die tomorrow from a stray sword thrust. My Inquisitor is a fighter, she also faces death every day. I just can't see her having issues with the "well, he'll die one day either from the taint or from his Calling." He'd have to live that long first, and she'd be well aware neither of them might make it that far.

 

Dying fighting the monsters you've dedicated your life to fighting is a good death, imo. Not a happy one, but a good one.

 

True. But the die in combat really goes for any member of the Inquisition. Everyone however isn't suffering nightmares and turning into a ghouls however.

 

See that's fine. I'm not speaking for everyone's characters. Mine on the other hand is fully looking forward to a life of peace if she dies she dies but she'll have done so trying her damnedest to live longer.

 

See my issue they're slowly turning into ghouls which is why they die fighting like that. They die like that to avoid fully becoming ghouls. And sometimes it fails. Larius (or whatever his name was) in Legacy shows how that can go terribly wrong. There's nothing good about that. Watching Anders break down cause the voices in his head are getting louder...

 

 

He's not the sole straight option; Cullen's confirmed.

 

Also, the Warden thing can be averted if you use Avernus' research.

 

This was in the Cullen being bi scenario for me.

 

Also you don't know that. Unless you care to point out where Avernus mass produced the warden thing or even that the warden him/herself had access to it.



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OMG are even reading what I said?

 

I wouldn't get in a romance with them. Which is probably why I don't want them to be the lone straight option. So I have additional options that aren't them. Wardens are dying men on the battlefield all the time. It's kind of their job they usually have those closest to kicking the buckets kill archie.

 

Agreed about Anders. Which is why on my characters I didn't want dealing with that I romanced Fenris. (I usually romanced Anders when I wanted my characters completely miserable).

 

Also I already answered the whole dying at the same time. There's a difference in dying at the same time and dying horribly.

 

Alone in the dark with a bunch of monsters that you're slowly becoming while suffering nightmares, or having your breathing system shut down on you slowly are terrible deaths.

No need to be rude with me here. Especially since this seems like nothing more than a misunderstanding. I did read what you wrote other wise I wouldn't have replied to you.

 

You wouldn't like it as an option I get that but I was under the impression that you felt like I was trivializing how horrible a calling could be and I was not I was hardly even talking about the calling at all actually. I also never said anything about having him as a sole straight option. While I would like to have him as an LI I get that other people would not.

 

I never asked a question about dying the same time I feel like we are hugely misunderstanding one another here. Never have I said either that it wasn't a horrible death. It is one a pretty terrible one at that but again this is things you would most likely know getting into a relationship with someone at least I hope its something you would know it would be awful if you LI was dying and didn't tell you. 

 

My questions again were nothing about the calling but about if it was mentioned in Blackwall's info if it said he was close to his calling cause it seems like everyone is just assuming he is.

 

Edit: I apologize if I had not been clear with my other posts.



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Hey, if they want to make Blackwall gay so that there will be 2 openly gay male companions, I certainly wouldn't complain.

I don't see him being a LI but I think if he is one he would be bi... Man, all this speculation I wish they would release their chart so we can all know. i don't see them leaving out or "gimping" anyone.



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No need to be rude with me here. Especially since this seems like nothing more than a misunderstanding. I did read what you wrote other wise I wouldn't have replied to you.

 

You wouldn't like it as an option I get that but I was under the impression that you felt like I was trivializing how horrible a calling could be and I was not I was hardly even talking about the calling at all actually. I also never said anything about having him as a sole straight option. While I would like to have him as an LI I get that other people would not.

 

I never asked a question about dying the same time I feel like we are hugely misunderstanding one another here. Never have I said either that it wasn't a horrible death. It is one a pretty terrible one at that but again this is things you would most likely know getting into a relationship with someone at least I hope its something you would know it would be awful if you LI was dying and didn't tell you. 

 

My questions again were nothing about the calling but about if it was mentioned in Blackwall's info if it said he was close to his calling cause it seems like everyone is just assuming he is.

 

Nope I was mentioning how I was damned tired of the females getting all the soon to kick the bucket terribly LIs and I was tired of it. Period. That was my argument. Him being bi? Fine whatever (Still don't want but it wouldn't sting as bad). I did not want him as the f/m exclusive option because I found the "I'm dying" trope to be overdone and tiresome. And no it's not just by BW. BW didn't use it that often. I'm tired of it in general. Especially since it's always the f/m options that are saddled with it. Not the m/f. I would take the bastard boyfriend over it at this point. That's how sick of it I am.

 

Ares already said it. He was a warden since DAO times. Which means he's getting on in 10 years. Wardens don't seem to last much longer than that on average.



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Because his male PC can't romance a female elf. That's what he's comparing to the Mass Effect setup.

 

I am so confused i thought i was the one that wanted a felf but i didnt mention mass effect. Ummm if i hurt someones feelings im sorry! my Melf Felf thing has become more of a joke now than anything  :D  i use for laughs.



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This was in the Cullen being bi scenario for me.

 

Also you don't know that. Unless you care to point out where Avernus mass produced the warden thing or even that the warden him/herself had access to it.

So... Cullen is still an option for your straight romance, yes? Even if he is bi.



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I am so confused i thought i was the one that wanted a felf but i didnt mention mass effect. Ummm if i hurt someones feelings im sorry! my Melf Felf thing has become more of a joke now than anything  :D  i use for laughs.


I don't think it was you.

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I see Bioware releasing the romance chart in late August or early September. Not too far away. I see it simply as if there is a character I want to romance that can't be romanced they way I find ideal I will make a character that can romance him. Even if it's not my ideal scenario I will keep an open mind. I think we are lucky that Bioware includes romances. It's probably one of my favorite things that they add to their stories. I trust in Bioware they know what they are doing.


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O OK then

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So... Cullen is still an option for your straight romance, yes? Even if he is bi.

 

Yes he is. I'd just prefer if I did have a m/f exclusive option it wasn't the whole "I'm dying" thing.


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