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#5351
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If you play male hawke he will flirt with you its forced after a mission.

Actually you can avoid it I have with Male Hawkes before and besides didn't one of the Devs said they wouldn't have a follower instigate a flirt again so this is kind of a moot point. Plus an avoidable and turndownable flirt isn't forcing anything the only thing Anders constantly tried to force on players was his Mage agenda. So relax.



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Is there a meaningful distinction between pansexual and bisexual?

 

There is an incredible distinction between the two. A pansexual character is indifferent to gender identity.That could lead to very different preferences. 


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#5353
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He'd flirt with a lamp post if he could...

Wasn't it Alistair with the lamp post fetish? After all he did keep talking about how he always wanted to lick one  :lol:



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I'm going to say it: Because Anders is a man, and some straight men aren't used to getting hit on by other men.  A smaller percentage of that were offended by that, and post adorable things like "gay content is being forced down my throat," without a hint of irony.

Exactly... admittedly I already knew the answer to my own question, but this is one of the rare things people bring up that still really annoys the crap out of me, years later.



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I honestly agree with you, if my Warden is "gone" and has been for some time, I'd rather my LI move on instead of pining endlessly. That just makes them sort of pathetic.

 

I mean...in some cases the two would have been together for a decade and gone through a war together...not moving on within X amount of time isn't pathetic imo. You move on at your own pace. I would hope each love interests handles that separation/disappearance differently and in accordance to their character, instead of like, having them all stuck in limbo for 'plot reasons'. But I don't think its fair to call them pathetic if they are still sad they lost someone. :(



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Yes.

 

 

There is an incredible distinction between the two. A pansexual character is indifferent to gender identity.That could lead to very different preferences. 

I'll take that as a "Not really, but we like to inflate the sex terminology".



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Wasn't it Alistair with the lamp post fetish? After all he did keep talking about how he always wanted to lick one  :lol:

 

And yet my male Warden couldn't offer him his lampost. 


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I figure posters would learn to check their choice of words before posting things like this.   ^_^

 

Anders wasn't "forced down your throat."  It was one...stupid...flirt.  For +15 rivalry, that you can make up for before the end of Act 1.

 

Guess what?  Women got hit on too by him and it is just as awkward due to the timing of it.  Is it okay because it was to a woman? 

 

It's been what, about 2 years and counting now?  And a flirt from a man in a video game still bothers you?  Interesting...

 

Heavens to Betsy, I agree with this so much. Female characters get hit on by male and even female characters in almost every game.

 

One male character makes one little flirty line that you're allowed to shoot down in one game, and it's supper traumatizing for years after?

 

I'm sorry, but grow up. Learn to take it in stride and get over it.


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Actually you can avoid it I have with Male Hawkes before and besides didn't one of the Devs said they wouldn't have a follower instigate a flirt again so this is kind of a moot point. Plus an avoidable and turndownable flirt isn't forcing anything the only thing Anders constantly tried to force on players was his Mage agenda. So relax kay?

I am relaxed but i will give my opinion on things that are uncomfortable to me just like you would.



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Wasn't it Alistair with the lamp post fetish? After all he did keep talking about how he always wanted to lick one  :lol:

 

Yeah it was Alistair. I just failed to think of any other object  :rolleyes:



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Seeing DG's comments in favour of include a character like Maevaris in future DA games, we might see a genderqueer companion (and eventually LI, though I think the transphobia will be so uncontrollably overwhelming that I'll probably end up quitting the forum; but perhaps humanity will positively surprise me).

At any rate, I worry that it is straight female gamers who will suffer in all of this - with Cullen as a (likely) straight or bi LI given what we've seen in the past, and with the remaining male companions all being quite unconventional in their looks or personality. 

I have more faith in people being alright with a trans character, honestly. I really, really wonder how they would handle them as an LI, though. I feel like they probably would just side-step it. I feel like that's where things would get dicey.  



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I'll take that as a "Not really, but we like to inflate the sex terminology".

 

 

There is an incredible distinction between the two. A pansexual character is indifferent to gender identity.That could lead to very different preferences. 

 

Yes, this is true.   For example, a pansexual would date someone in the middle of transitioning, whereas a bisexual might not.  Here's one answer I found.

 

If you are also attracted to people who are genderfluid, androgynous, or a third gender (for example), pansexual may be a more accurate term. If you are only attracted to men (including FTMs) and women (including MTFs), then bisexual would probably be a more accurate term.


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Seeing DG's comments in favour of include a character like Maevaris in future DA games, we might see a genderqueer companion (and eventually LI, though I think the transphobia will be so uncontrollably overwhelming that I'll probably end up quitting the forum; but perhaps humanity will positively surprise me).

At any rate, I worry that it is straight female gamers who will suffer in all of this - with Cullen as a (likely) straight or bi LI given what we've seen in the past, and with the remaining male companions all being quite unconventional in their looks or personality. 

At the same time, the alternative would be the usual gays and lesbians who get the leftover like they always do. If Sera and Dorian who many consider to be attractive were to be straight instead then it would fall into a typical scenario where the gays and lesbians' LIs are just second thought like with NPC romances in ME3 or DAO where they only have one LI. With that being said, Solas and Cullen are all very popular with the ladies, so I can't judge whether they're losing out on much.



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I mean...in some cases the two would have been together for a decade and gone through a war together...not moving on within X amount of time isn't pathetic imo. You move on at your own pace. I would hope each love interests handles that separation/disappearance differently and in accordance to their character, instead of like, having them all stuck in limbo for 'plot reasons'. But I don't think its fair to call them pathetic if they are still sad they lost someone. :(

These are also the kind of people that can get told, "Your One True Love has disappeared to parts unknown on an epic quest of danger with the fate of the world at stake!" and go, "Oh, is that all?  I'll find them in in a week, tops," if not, "Why didn't they invite me along? :angry: "



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Actually you can avoid it I have with Male Hawkes before and besides didn't one of the Devs said they wouldn't have a follower instigate a flirt again so this is kind of a moot point. Plus an avoidable and turndownable flirt isn't forcing anything the only thing Anders constantly tried to force on players was his Mage agenda. So relax.

You can avoid it, but you have to be a douche to him beforehand

 

But really it's a problem I've seen before.  In ME2, Miranda, Jack, and Tali are pretty much crawling into maleShep's lap after doing their loyalty missions unless Shep puts the brakes on.  In ME1, Liara's trying to "get to know" Shep better unless you tell her "no" at least twice.  This time it just happened to be a male character.


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#5366
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And yet my male Warden couldn't offer him his lampost. 

That's because he wanted an actual lamp post and being with a male warden would remind him too much of what he could never had so he settled for a female warden instead hoping to forget about his true love that he'll never have the joy of being with.

 

I am relaxed but i will give my opinion on things that are uncomfortable to me just like you would.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't give an opinion I'm pointing out that a dev said they wouldn't have a follower instigate a flirt with you again so you don't have anything to worry about that's why I said to relax.



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Seeing DG's comments in favour of include a character like Maevaris in future DA games, we might see a genderqueer companion (and eventually LI, though I think the transphobia will be so uncontrollably overwhelming that I'll probably end up quitting the forum; but perhaps humanity will positively surprise me).

At any rate, I worry that it is straight female gamers who will suffer in all of this - with Cullen as a (likely) straight or bi LI given what we've seen in the past, and with the remaining male companions all being quite unconventional in their looks or personality. 

I admit, I was sort of amused by the way you said that, implying that having Cullen as a romance option would be some horrible burden... not that I wholly disagree.



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I actually really enjoyed the tiny bit of realism that came from a character showing interest in the player first, instead of always having to be the one to initiate everything. It's pretty sad that the dramatized outbursts of some people from that one line in the game probably took away that option for DA:I. 


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You can avoid it, but you have to be a douche to him beforehand

 

But really it's a problem I've seen before.  In ME2, Miranda, Jack, and Tali are pretty much crawling into maleShep's lap after doing their loyalty missions unless Shep puts the brakes on.  In ME1, Liara's trying to "get to know" Shep better unless you tell her "no" at least twice.  This time it just happened to be a male character.

 

Jack's reaction when one's Shepard is not romantically interested in her... Priceless.



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I actually really enjoyed the tiny bit of realism that came from a character showing interest in the player first, instead of always having to be the one to initiate everything. It's pretty sad that the dramatized outbursts of some people from that one line in the game probably took away that option for DA:I. 

Yeah bioware should force romance content on players to make them feel uncomfortable good idea.



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You can avoid it, but you have to be a douche to him beforehand

 

But really it's a problem I've seen before.  In ME2, Miranda, Jack, and Tali are pretty much crawling into maleShep's lap after doing their loyalty missions unless Shep puts the brakes on.  In ME1, Liara's trying to "get to know" Shep better unless you tell her "no" at least twice.  This time it just happened to be a male character.

I didn't think my Hawke was a douche about it just tried to handle what Anders dropped on him with humor like he tried to handle most things but different opinions though the turning him down option if he did flirted with  you did come off as a little rude to me but Ander's response came off as a little creepy too >>

 

Liara still was trying to get with my Shep after she told her no a few times it was odd but I might of had a buggy copy but ME was pretty sneaky with ninjamancing unless you ignored your crew which I didn't' like, I don't' feel DA2 was like that though. DAO kind of was with some characters though *cough* Alistair *cough*

Hopefully this will not be a problem for DAI and we can still interact with characters that are also possible LIs and them not try to throw themselves at us  ^_^



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Yeah it was Alistair. I just failed to think of any other object  :rolleyes:

 

I believe he started that tangent after the warden asked if he was a virgin as a way to avoid the question xD

 

Also Hi romance forum~ :whistle:


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Anders wasn't "forced down your throat."  It was one...stupid...flirt.  For +15 rivalry, that you can make up for before the end of Act 1.

 

Amusingly enough, you have to do some seriously anti-mage actions to earn that level of rivalry with him:

 

Hand a Saarabas over to be killed

Cutting a deal with a demon

Promote the use of blood magic

Decline his flirt

 

:D



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Yeah bioware should force romance content on players to make them feel uncomfortable good idea.

End_romance.pngwas kinda meant as a remedy for that you know.



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As for judging who gets the "best" LI, I think that's really hard to avoid if they're going to do gating. I mean, are they even going to know who the fanbase decides is the hottest before it's too late? Is it really avoidable? Especially with the females, I think it's really closely done to begin with. It's something I think they have to deal with if they're going to do gating. I don't think the majority will ever really agree on who the "best" one is. I don't really believe there's any sort of agreement this time, either. 


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