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It's easy to get frustrated sometimes with the vocal minority that has been talking about "straight phobia" and other related nonsense, but remember that they are just that: A minority among their group.
Seeing as how a lot of people where angry and upset about anders and with me3 gay content its not a small minority.
Honestly, you're not going to change this guy's mind. You might as well let it go. Bioware isn't going to write characters for him, anyway. This kind of attitude is on the downhill. You might as well pick your battles and let them stew in it.
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I think its worth addressing when it comes up however (not pages and pages of arguments, but addressing) because even if the poster in question doesn't learn anything from the conversation, you nvr know how many people might have similar comments lined up but who back down or actually do learn something from seeing these posts addressed. Maybe the person you are speaking to doesn't end up agreeing with you, but maybe someone else goes 'oh yeah, I was totally ok with Isabela hitting on me...I guess thats a bit hypocritical' and then they proceed to think on it and don't post anything about gay content being thrust upon them.
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But its a nice thought at least 
Male, female, I don't care - bring on the flirts, I say, just as long as I get the option to dismiss them without sounding like a total d-bag. ME was the worst offender at unwanted flirts, IMO, because at least in Dragon Age you get an option to respond. In ME I just had to let numerous Asari violate my personal space w/ Shepard's dumb blank stare.
Bioware games are about choice i have no choice when anders flirts with me its forced.
I didn't know we had control over what other characters do
Isabela flirts with literally everyone, so does Zevran. It's part of their character and I don't see a compelling reason not to include it. As long as your character doesn't show an interest when you don't want them to, there is no real problem.
That's my problem: my character's behavior in cutscenes. I didn't want my Hawke getting a big goofy grin on her face and arching an eyebrow when Isabela invited her to her room, just like I didn't want Shepard standing there while the asari consort got all up in her personal space uninvited in Mass Effect. I don't like feeling that my character was written from a typical male gamer's perspective when I'm playing as a woman.
Seeing as how a lot of people where angry and upset about anders and with me3 gay content its not a small minority.
So? Who cares.
Bioware obviously doesn't care about what they think.
Seeing as how a lot of people where angry and upset about anders and with me3 gay content its not a small minority.
You mean the vocal minority?
Which romance prospects is everyone most excited about?
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Male, female, I don't care - bring on the flirts, I say, just as long as I get the option to dismiss them without sounding like a total d-bag. ME was the worst offender at unwanted flirts, IMO, because at least in Dragon Age you get an option to respond. In ME I just had to let numerous Asari violate my personal space w/ Shepard's dumb blank stare.
Likewise. Any flirting that comes on our Inquisitor, I hope we have an option of politely declining.
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oh look I just saw a pig fly by...
But its a nice thought at least
I totally understand that and agree. It's just knowing when you've hit a wall that's the issue. lol
This stupid forum ate my very, very long post because I accidentally pressed backspace. So I'm quite peeved. This is the best I could to do recreate the post before I just gave up due to disappointment.
I would say that straight women were not more shafted than both sexes of gay in ME3. They might have had only two viable LIs, but gay men had only two LIs period, and lesbians had... two LIs who had anything done with them, one who fled the Normandy altogether and then got snubbed from the Citadel party (all without any major content), and one random fling.
It wasn't my intention to say that ME3 catered to LGBT gamers better than it did to straight women. It did not. My only intention was to say that in the comparison between straight men and women, straight women had far fewer options. I am worried DA:I will repeat that pattern.
I think the difference is ME catered to straight males while DA cater to a broader demographic, DAO, straight women have the same amount as straight guys, DA2, women have 3 options while males have 2 options. Just because both games are developed by Bioware don't mean that they're being developed by the same exact team. Hopefully, Bioware can develop a game everyone can enjoy.
You're very much right about the difference in franchises. It's more that we only have two other confirmed LIs - Cullen and Cassandra - and it's looking like women will get at least one advisor romance. If the worry abour advisor romances is justified, then we could be looking at an ME3 like situation (particularly since Bioware has said that not all orientations necessarily will get equal content; or at least question our 2/2/2 assumption each time on that basis).
Okay, I get what you are saying and I do agree with you. The problem is, unless they make everything equal, nothing will ever be fair.
It's tricky though. When DAO came out, we had 4 romanceable companions. Straight characters got 2 options and gay characters got one. At the time, I remember being really excited because here is this game that is giving me the option to romance a woman. That was a big deal. As we move forward though, Then DA2 came around and holy crap, I have two women to choose from. Everyone is on equal footing, but most romance options are not distinct in their sexuality.
So, maybe the question is, is giving each companion a set sexuality worth it in the long run? If BW wants to be totally inclusive of all sexualities, is this the best course of action? I can't answer that for this game. If I were to look at past games, I'd say no because it's still comes off as throwing some people scraps and telling them to be happy they got something.
I think it's hard sometimes to not look at turn about a little vindictively. Like I totally understand why a lot of straight males for example are upset. I understand because I have been there. The problem is, a lot of those same males (not all) were the ones telling us to get over it and relax because it's just a game and just a romance and if we want to romance a specific character we can just roll a different pc. So now they are experiencing this for the first time. However, instead of realizing that this is something that other people have been dealing with for years, they see it as BW pandering to the gays etc.
Without giving everyone the same amount and same kind of options all the time, it will never be equal. I just don't know if we can at this point say the game is not inclusive to X when we don't even know who all the LIs are or who they are interested in.
JO, I have to apologize for my brevity here because I did have a long post that tried to match yours. Essentially, I responded in two parts.
First, I wanted to say that I think a game like DA:I needed to happen. Whether or not future games will proceed with set sexualities, we needed a game with lesbian and gay companions, in prominent heroic roles, because this is something that the gaming industry sorely lacks. Before Sera, the only (arguably) lesbian character was Celene. Before Celene, there really wasn't anyone. The only gay men in the game were Wade and Herren, and that wasn't even mentioned in-game. DA:I will be a landmark in the industry for that alone, and I think that counts.
In terms of the vindictiveness discussion (and it's here that a pretty and really lengthy post existed before the backspace incident, and which I just couldn't fully reproduce), I really do get where you're coming from. While male, I'm not straight. I wouldn't say that "bi" fits well, because I've got a pretty complex set of tastes I like outside of women that doesn't quite capture all men but isn't exactly exclusive of them, but at any rate, I'd love a game that actually lets me express my range of desirable sexual partners through a range of characters I could create and imagine. If that happened, I'd totally want to say, tough luck everyone else, it's my turn to have this one game.
But I think that, as someone who deeply cares about diversity, that the actual intellectual basis and fundamental motivation for diversity has to be more than "it's my turn", even if that resonates strongly at the emotional level. Because I understand what it's like to not get want I want, I don't want others to have to go through that. I don't think less content for purely straight gamers is going to teach them anything about what it was like to go through what I went - after all, they're still part of a society that, for the most part, is straight first in ads, etc. All it's going to do is build resentment. And even if it could be possible for people to go through the same stuff, well, I don't think I'd want them to. I feel like to be in Canada in the 21st century. I'd certainly wouldn't be happy if someone said I don't appreciate the present without seeing, say, 1940s Virginia attitudes.
So? Who cares.
Bioware obviously doesn't care about what they think.
Seeing as how you have to start a flirt with steve first to start his romance bioware did. he wont flirt with you unless you start it first
Which romance prospects is everyone most excited about?
Iron Bull (even though he's not confirmed yet :c) and Sera! Sera is going to be so adorable 
Which romance prospects is everyone most excited about?
I didn't know we had control over what other characters do
Only on the battlefield.
Iron Bull (even though he's not confirmed yet :c) and Sera! Sera is going to be so adorable
I love the way Sera looks! I would love to romance Iron Bull, man I have a thing for Freddie Prince Jr. He sounds so excited to do voice work for Bioware!
Yes!
Like you're in the middle of a battle in the desert one second and the next you're watching a cinematic where your character is having sex with Iron Bull, Cassandra, Varric, or Scribbles. You get no choice in the matter. That character is now your LI for the rest of the game.
The only way to unlock the reaver specialization (which apparently belongs at least to IB) is #ridetheironbull. It's also an achievement. Have fun.
Rumor mill has it that David might be writing a romance where someone unexpectedly realizes they're attracted to an Inquisitor of the same sex. As Dorian appears to already be comfortable in his sexuality, I'm hoping Cassandra discovers she wants to submit to my qun.
By submit, I'm imagining it building for a long time as she ignores my PCs flirts and then pinning the PC to the wall one night and ravaging her in the middle of one of the Keep's hallways.
That might be too Fenrisy though...
At the very least I'm sure that'll make its way into half a million fanfics 
Which romance prospects is everyone most excited about?
Well, it depends. I know better than to pin my hopes on anyone, but I'm one of those candle-bearers for a Varric romance. I don't expect it, but I do have a sliver of hope. I won't be disappointed if he isn't, since he's my DA "best bud" and I'm just thrilled to have him around.
Sera is great, but so far isn't really my type. She's feels to me more like a kid sister, someone that's going to be bratty and possibly quite immature. Those aren't marks against the character; if anything, I adore her for those reasons. She just isn't my taste to romance. While I'm still quite happy for the Cullen fans (sincerely,) he's never done anything to make me want him as a LI.
Otherwise, I don't know. I'll really have to wait and see who's available. Even then, I'm going to be careful about setting my expectations in stone.
The first time I played Origins, I thought I would love Zevran and find Alistair completely boring, not my type (I'm not into short blonde hair/blue eyed men) and too naive. Turns out that Zevran isn't my favorite LI, and Alistair has turned into my favorite LI as well as my second favorite friendship in Origins (my first being Morrigan as a lady Warden.)
Time and time again, BioWare has taken my expectations and turned them on its head. I wouldn't put it past them to surprise me yet again in Inquisition.
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Straight men can give feedback to bioware not just women or gays. Sorry that stuff that makes us feel uncomfortable does not to you.
Which romance prospects is everyone most excited about?
Sera
then Vivienne but idk if that's goin down
Which romance prospects is everyone most excited about?
Iron Bull! Physically he's not my type at all - aka he fugly - but I love how his personality sounds. I really hope he's a LI and not a fling which is my only concern at the moment.
Also, Dorian for my mQuizzie. But, honestly, I'm excited about any and everything...I'm easy to please.
At any rate, I worry that it is straight female gamers who will suffer in all of this - with Cullen as a (likely) straight or bi LI given what we've seen in the past, and with the remaining male companions all being quite unconventional in their looks or personality.
I still don't get how straight females (or straight males) all suffer because their potential LI list is reduced to: Cullen, Blackwall, Solas (Cassandra, Vivienne or Scribble). I didn't put in Iron Bull nor Varric because I expect them to be race-gated if they are LI and Cole looks to dead for me to take him has a serious LI option.
Dorian or Sera aren't more conventional than anyone else here. The Inquisition is made of bunch of idealistic misfits who all go against the standard of their peers (well 9 out of 10, because we don't know anything about Solas nor much about how Cullen and Scribble end up has specialists).
This stupid forum ate my very, very long post because I accidentally pressed backspace. So I'm quite peeved. This is the best I could to do recreate the post before I just gave up due to disappointment.
It wasn't my intention to say that ME3 catered to LGBT gamers better than it did to straight women. It did not. My only intention was to say that in the comparison between straight men and women, straight women had far fewer options. I am worried DA:I will repeat that pattern.
I'm positive that it won't, personally.
Sera
then Vivienne but idk if that's goin down
Viv is just someone who I - based on swallow physical appearance alone - so totally want to be an LI. It's just so unfair if she's not.
But, also, given the bold ... must... avoid... snarky ... line.
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