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[Hellion Rex]

I am often confused by the number of times who say their PC will or won't or wouldn't or what-have-you.  Do many people play the game one time, with one race/class/origin/romance combo?

What's really interesting is that my first seven DA2 runs were Male Mage w/ romancing Fenris. It was really good in my eyes, romancing Fenris as a mage. It was a great healing arc, and I thought it was perfect for Fenris. When a romance/playthrough type is so good, I myself tend to redo it over and over.

 

11 Origins runs as a male human mage who romanced Zevran - same thing. I loved it, so I redid it many, many times.

[LobselVith8]

I'm optimistic about the game as a whole; I'm sure I'll find someone to love.

 

That's a good outlook. Good luck with whomever it is, then!

 

If Ariane showed up as a possible love interest, my Dalish mage might have someone to romance. Otherwise, it's the "David Banner" route (his Marvel counterpart, Bruce, seemed to have better luck).

 

I already have one in mind; I think she'd be the one more highly focused on freedom as an abstract notion, and thus more invested in the mage rebellion than my Dalish... though even she might veer away from my expectations. A lot, too, will depend on aesthetics; whether I prefer a slight mage woman or a large, horned mage woman as head of the Inquisition, and I can't yet decide.

 

That's true; an elven Inquisitor might be more focused on the plight of the Elvhen, than the general Mage-Templar War. I think a Vashoth woman gaining power and influence could make for a very interesting story, given the bad name the Qunari have given the qunari people, and the repercussions it might have for those in the Qunari lands.

[Vegeta93]

I was not trying to be anti gay but fine.

[oceanicsurvivor]

Why not both? Have her get the quote card like every companion but Solas(and Cassandra for some reason) got, then the next day have the interview.

 

One day...maybe...

 

 

After Solas of course (and probably everyone else )

[sandalisthemaker]

See what i mean mate you defend the others but keep taking digs at me its getting boring.

 

So you admit that the only reason you are here is to get a rise out of people.

 

'Woe is me, I'm a straight guy' isn't going to cut it, when there are plenty of straight guys who *do not* share your opinion and are *not* bothered by a guy flirting with them in a videogame.  They simply go "sorry not interested" and move on.  Which you can also do. 

[Nocte ad Mortem]

It was assumed that Gaider wrote Cassandra (companion+romance), Cole (companion) and Cullen (romance), that made 2 companions and 2 romances. Of course that theory blew up with the Cole reveal....

Yeah, that was how I understood the situation went. Haha.  

 

But I think Cassandra and Dorian will be Gaider's only romances now. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

One day...maybe...

 

 

After Solas of course (and probably everyone else )

We have to get Solas, Cullen, and Leliana out of the way first. As they say, save the best for last.

[Allan Schumacher]

I was not trying to be anti gay but fine.

 

Lets take this to PM.

[Xilizhra]

See what i mean mate you defend the others but keep taking digs at me its getting boring.

So would you also be bored if I asked you if you saw me as more of a women or as more of a gay?

 

 

That's a good outlook. Good luck with whomever it is, then!

 

If Ariane showed up as a possible love interest, my Dalish mage might have someone to romance. Otherwise, it's the "David Banner" route (his Marvel counterpart, Bruce, seemed to have better luck).

Well... if I have a chance of liking Vivienne somehow, maybe you will too, if the plot somehow heads that way.

 

 

That's true; an elven Inquisitor might be more focused on the plight of the Elvhen, than the general Mage-Templar War. I think a Vashoth woman gaining power and influence could make for a very interesting story, given the bad name the Qunari have given the qunari people, and the repercussions it might have for those in the Qunari lands.

Sometimes it feels like there are just too many interesting ideas. And hot women.

[Jagged Orchid]

Funny i make one comment then everyone has a go at me for my opinion. But if a women or gay had asked for  things to be changed that would make them feel uncomfortable that would be allright. But mine is a big no no

 

I'm not trying to insight an argument, but as someone who did take offence to what you said, I'll try to explain why I found what you said on the offensive side. This is not an attack of you, I'm just trying to offer some insight.

 

You came out and said that while you are okay with there being gay content, you are not okay with BW shoving gay content down your throat because not only did it make you uncomfortable, but it took away your choice. What I and many other people pointed out, was that having a male character hit on you did not take away your choice, nor was it shoving gay content down your throat. 

 

Many of us, even went on to explain that while we didn't necessarily appreciate having someone we were not interested in hitting on us, we also understand that it can and does happen. However, we are also given the choice to tell Anders we are not interested in him. Honestly, I wasn't comfortable with him hitting on me. I'm never comfortable with someone I'm not interested in hitting on me. That goes for men and women. Just because I'm a lesbian, doesn't mean I'm attracted to every woman I meet. However, I can accept that people I'm not interested in might hit on me. I'm not forced to return their affections. I can politely turn them down and move on.

 

So, if you were to just say you felt uncomfortable, fine that's totally understandable and valid, but I think a lot of people felt you were going into attack mode and that's when things can get messy. If I had said, I'm fine with men or straight people, but don't shove that crap down my throat, I'm sure there would be plenty of people jumping on me too. It had very little if anything to do with you being a straight male, but what you actually said.

[Grieving Natashina]

So you admit that the only reason you are here is to get a rise out of people.

 

'Woe is me, I'm a straight guy' isn't going to cut it, when there are plenty of straight guys who *do not* share your opinion and are *not* bothered by a guy flirting with them in a videogame.  They simply go "sorry not interested" and move on.  Which you can also do. 

I understand the temptation, but it's best to let it go.  Allan's offered to chat with him via PM.  If he doesn't take him up on it, that's his business.  However, this is a great day and a small victory in the long-term quest to have more LGBTQ and PoC in our games.  I'm going to try to focus on the good parts.  

 

It sound corny, but having a gay companion really means a lot to me.  Heck, I'm still a little choked up.  I'm also surprising myself with Dorian.  I've never had an interest in m/m relationships before.  It just wasn't something I had really considered until this point.  

 

Dorian, however, is making me think about rolling a male Quizzy for my second completion of the game.  He seems fun, I love his look (and those eyes, omg) and he seems like he'll end up being one powerful necromancer.  It's intriguing to me, and something I'm keeping in mind for later.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

LGBTQ

What's the Q stand for? 

[Chernaya]

Really, I believe it was the words "shoved down my throat" that set people off. Nothing else, that was just an offensive way to put it to many people. I'm sorry if you felt you were being unfairly attacked by it, but I hope you can realize from this experience that saying those words in that context can seem offensive to non-straight players.

[Andraste_Reborn]

I am not sure whether Dorian being confirmed gay makes me more or less desperate for The Chart.

 

On the one hand: yay! This suits me perfectly, I wanted to romance him with a dude anyway. But now, which dude? My qunari rogue? My human warrior? My dwarf warrior? Or maybe my elf mage, but I'd rather put him with Vivienne if that turns out to be possible. (Or with Cullen, just to cause Cullen the maximum possible quantity of confusion.) Leaning towards the qunari rogue, the better to scandalise Dorian's family back home. But if Cassandra is the bi female option, then I'd like to pair her with my female qunari mage, and then I'd probably make my male qunari straight. And what if Iron Bull is a bisexual romance but not available for dwarves? Then I'd probably put him with the male qunari instead of one of my dwarves and .... ARGH!

 

It's like trying to do a jigsaw puzzle when you only have four pieces. And you don't know how many other pieces there are, and one of them may technically not even belong to this puzzle although he sure looks like he does, and you can't tell what shape some of the ones you do have are. Obviously the logical thing to do would be to stop and wait for further information ... but where's the fun in that?

 

At least I can feel happy imagining the future adventures of my Dalish rogue and her lady love Sera.

[Grieving Natashina]

What's the Q stand for? 

Queer, or gender queer.

[LobselVith8]

Well... if I have a chance of liking Vivienne somehow, maybe you will too, if the plot somehow heads that way.

 

I highly doubt my Dalish mage is going to mesh well with most of the companions and their agendas, and I don't see much of a romantic future between an elf who wants to be with his people and establish an independent homeland for them, and a politically driven Orlesian who has an interest in the Orlesian court and the Circle. I already see my character reluctantly working with Cassandra and her Andrastian sycophants. A Thedas version of Cowboy Bebop.

 

Sometimes it feels like there are just too many interesting ideas. And hot women.

 

That's what multiple playthroughs are for. Thank the Creators.    

[Clockwork_Wings]

What's really interesting is that my first seven DA2 runs were Male Mage w/ romancing Fenris. It was really good in my eyes, romancing Fenris as a mage. It was a great healing arc, and I thought it was perfect for Fenris. When a romance/playthrough type is so good, I myself tend to redo it over and over.

 

11 Origins runs as a male human mage who romanced Zevran - same thing. I loved it, so I redid it many, many times.

I tend to decide based on what will have the most obvious continuity, such as romancing a Hawke to Anders if the warden was an Amell, or joining my sibling to the wardens if Alistair remained a warden, or romancing Merril if my warden was Dalish.

 

So my second playthrough (which will be one of many designed in the keep and played side-by-side with my saarabas, who will be the first one I play past the intro) will be a dwarf rogue whose warden was either a dwarf commoner or noble, or one of each. 

 

The DAI companions don't seem to have as much connection to Hawke or the warden, except for Varric (who isn't a confirmed LI yet) and Cassandra.  My saarabas may end up with Cullen, though, just so that Varric can tease him at any opportunity. 

[Mr.House]

A Thedas version of Cowboy Bebop.

 

Steve Blum confirmed as male inquisitor.

[Maria Caliban]

I don't think Vashoth really have their own society. Far as I'm aware they just loosely integrate into non-qun societies.

I'd suggest that first-generation immigrants never fully assimilate into societies. The qunari have a culture. Even qunari who reject their religion will carry aspects of that culture. You can't shake off decades of behaviors, habits, and viewpoints because you've left the motherland.

Second-generation immigrants, which is what we'll be playing, tend to balance both their parent's culture and the one they're born into. Though they tend to do the one they're born into much better.

For example, I expect my female qunari will view being a warrior as a masculine trait. Not 'women can't be warriors and if you're a warrior you can't be a woman' but it won't strike her as a particularly feminine occupation like being a merchant.

[Allan Schumacher]

Keeping the thread clean of the off topic so I removed the post.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Queer, or gender queer.

Ah, okay.

[Xilizhra]

I highly doubt my Dalish mage is going to mesh well with most of the companions and their agendas, and I don't see much of a romantic future between an elf who wants to be with his people and establish an independent homeland for them, and a politically driven Orlesian who has an interest in the Orlesian court and the Circle. I already see my character reluctantly working with Cassandra and her Andrastian sycophants. A Thedas version of Cowboy Bebop.

I wouldn't have thought much of the romantic possibilities between a Chantry sister and a blood mage either, yet look at what could be done. It may be easier to build bridges than we think.

 

 

That's what multiple playthroughs are for. Thank the Creators.    

But I want one true canon...

[HuldraDancer]

If only I was good at art I'd be putting down so many possible designs for my possible PCs right now especially for my male qunari for some reason I just can't picture Dorian with any other PC than a qunari right now x3 Still holding hope for Blackwall and Iron Bull to be LIs but it is nice to know that at least two of my PCs might be able to get who I pictured them with first. Though I'm more excited that there is a male LI in a Bioware game that is neither an elf nor blond 

[Kingthlayer]

On the topic of Anders flirting with a male Hawke.  And even Fenris for that matter, why isn't Fenris talked about in this situation, does refusing him not give rivalry so nobody cares?  I didn't hate those flirts because I'm a straight male, I hated them because they were awkward and out of place IMO, perhaps it's because the romances were stretched over many years or something, but they felt so odd.  Zevran flirts with the Male Warden but by that point I knew it was coming based on his character, Anders and Fenris were just there right in your face.

 

I'm glad the Inquisitor will be the one kickstarting all romances in Inquisition.  I do hope it's not like Mass Effect 3 though, where a few extra flirts one way and you lock yourself out of all other romantic content.  I'd love to see a full on scrap between two potential LIs if the Inquisitor flirts or possibly ploughs multiple companions.  Jack vs Miranda style except over the Inquisitor..

[Clockwork_Wings]

I'd suggest that first-generation immigrants never fully assimilate into societies. The qunari have a culture. Even qunari who reject their religion will carry aspects of that culture. You can't shake off decades of behaviors, habits, and viewpoints because you've left the motherland.

Second-generation immigrants, which is what we'll be playing, tend to balance both their parent's culture and the one they're born into. Though they tend to do the one they're born into much better.

For example, I expect my female qunari will view being a warrior as a masculine trait. Not 'women can't be warriors and if you're a warrior you can't be a woman' but it won't strike her as a particularly feminine occupation like being a merchant.

That's kind of neat.  What you see your parents do reflects what you later believe to be a masculine or feminine role.  For instance, if one sees their dad vacuum as a child and their mom rebuild engines, they will associate vacuuming as "men's work" and automotive repair as "women's work."  Varying from person to person, of course. 

 

Not knowing so much about the backgrounds yet, I hadn't given much thought to my saarabas outside of the script I put on the Varric thread, which would work better as a tabletop roleplay, or a DA4 or 5 or so.