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[Clockwork_Wings]

Agreed it was weird and I felt like poor Sebastian should have put a restraining order out on Hawke and Bethany for it (though he seemed to enjoy it slightly more from Bethany). Just an odd way to go about trying to romance him by constantly trying to get him in bed with you despite him telling you no. 

 

Yeah it was a little weird, though to me not as weird and Bethany and Hawke both more or less acting like they saw Sebastian as a hunky sex object yeah he's got pretty eyes and a wonderful voice but come on.

 

Agreed with that as well liked the romance between the two but it was odd it started off as a nearly literal 'lets bang okay?'

 

 

And one minute it's, "If I broke my vows to be with you, I would no longer be worthy of you."  Then all of a sudden, literally the next romance line available, is, "We should totally have a chaste marriage in the eyes of the maker."

 

Of course, Her Grace mentions that Sebastian has very rash tendencies...

 

I did like having him in my party, though.  One can tell he's a DLC character in his romance, but given the parade of dysfunction that was the DA2 companions, I liked having someone around who regularly suggested, "Get over the past and let go of your anger."

 

What gave me the creeps and is one of the most likely reasons I'll probably not be romancing Sebastian again (although I might make a keep file with him as a LI) was Anders basically telling Hawke to kill him so he can be famous already.  About ruined Anders' romances for me.

 

In Inquisition, I'd be okay if someone had a tragic romance, like Blackwall going for his calling, and someone else had a dysfunctional one, but I would like at least one romance that is just...nice.  It's why it's difficult for me to imagine romancing anyone but Garrus in ME while I find it weird that DA players would limit themselves to a single character.

[Xilizhra]

Well, not much is really known about the Vashoth, since we have mainly encountered Qunari and Tal-Vashoth so far. I've wondered of being atheist is an option, since the player won't follow the Qun (at first, anyway). This might be a blind dive into Vashoth culture, since we really don't know too much; given how a woman of the Vashoth can be a warrior, rogue, or mage, I'm guessing it's much more liberated than Qunari society.

 

You should have some interesting romance options, regardless of whom you pick as your first Inquisitor.

 

As for the Dalish, I can see where you're coming from. I'm hoping an elven perspective (as well as a Vashoth and dwarven perspective for those racial options) is brought up; it wouldn't make much sense to dilute the unique cultural perspectives of these backgrounds since the appeal of different racial backgrounds is playing as someone from a rich background. A dwarven protagonist might be invested in helping Ferelden if the human armies are aiding the dwarven troops against the darkspawn in the Deep Roads, and could see the Inquisition as an opportunity to essentially establish their own 'House' on the surface, while a Vashoth might face discrimination because people confuse her with a Qunari, and there might be some culture shock in how a Vashoth reacts to certain human customs (especially if the player attends Vivienne's party).

 

Elven lore does interest me, and I sincerely hope it's not dismissed in favor of focusing on the human-centric Andrastian viewpoints. There wouldn't be much point to Vashoth or Dwarven runs if they aren't permitted their own outlook on things, much less as a Dalish elf. I'm looking to play as a different character from my pragmatic, atheist Surana Warden, and my mage rebel Champion. The Creators are said to be trapped in the Eternal City, so I think that alone might be my headcanon explanation for accepting Cole into the group, given the traditional Dalish aversion towards dealing with spirits.

Elven lore interests me a lot too, and I hope that it can be accommodated adequately even if the game isn't built around it.

[HuldraDancer]

And one minute it's, "If I broke my vows to be with you, I would no longer be worthy of you."  Then all of a sudden, literally the next romance line available, is, "We should totally have a chaste marriage in the eyes of the maker."

 

Of course, Her Grace mentions that Sebastian has very rash tendencies...

 

I did like having him in my party, though.  One can tell he's a DLC character in his romance, but given the parade of dysfunction that was the DA2 companions, I liked having someone around who regularly suggested, "Get over the past and let go of your anger."

 

What gave me the creeps and is one of the most likely reasons I'll probably not be romancing Sebastian again (although I might make a keep file with him as a LI) was Anders basically telling Hawke to kill him so he can be famous already.  About ruined Anders' romances for me.

 

In Inquisition, I'd be okay if someone had a tragic romance, like Blackwall going for his calling, and someone else had a dysfunctional one, but I would like at least one romance that is just...nice.  It's why it's difficult for me to imagine romancing anyone but Garrus in ME while I find it weird that DA players would limit themselves to a single character.

Yes he does though I always took that 'marriage' as more of a 'hey girl I know you like me but relationships go against the maker lets just work at the chantry and you'll say yes because of my accent and blue eyes' (damn that accent and damn his eyes) Yes it was refereshing to have someone a little less angry though he kind of acts just like everyone else at the end (though I get why I just wish there was an option to tell him to do it if he wanted it done so badly)

 

Wait what? Maybe it's because I've only had one run with Sebastian as my LI but when does Anders tell Hawke to kill him? Jeez I knew Anders carried a torch but damn.

 

I'll personally do every romance there is to experince it but I'd like more of a mix of drama and stable though I'd rather not play therapist again or deal with exteremeist. Thats what I'm most worried about is getting an LI that I really like but they have a strong standing in the MTW while I personally couldn't care less about it. I think if they balance out the tragic with the happy though everyone has a chance of getting what they would like : 3

[KC_Prototype]

Just a friendly reminder that he is, in no way, "defo straight".  "Possibly straight", sure.  I might even go so far as saying "probably straight".  But definitely not, "definitely straight", because that's just not true and I am not looking forward to the "retcon" complaints if he is revealed to be bisexual.

Then I challenge good sir! May the best man win. 

[LobselVith8]

What gave me the creeps and is one of the most likely reasons I'll probably not be romancing Sebastian again (although I might make a keep file with him as a LI) was Anders basically telling Hawke to kill him so he can be famous already.  About ruined Anders' romances for me.

 

I think Karl's tranquility and death really impacted Anders, and shaped what path he would take. He doesn't seem to join the mage underground until after Karl has died, after all. I chose the third dialogue line with Anders in my canon apostate run, and I could understand how much he loved Karl. What's interesting is how both Leandra and Bethany comment on Anders reminding them of Malcolm, and even Carver says he's heard about the plight of mages before; I imagined my character seeing him as a younger version of his father.

[Clockwork_Wings]

Yes he does though I always took that 'marriage' as more of a 'hey girl I know you like me but relationships go against the maker lets just work at the chantry and you'll say yes because of my accent and blue eyes' (damn that accent and damn his eyes) Yes it was refereshing to have someone a little less angry though he kind of acts just like everyone else at the end (though I get why I just wish there was an option to tell him to do it if he wanted it done so badly)

 

Wait what? Maybe it's because I've only had one run with Sebastian as my LI but when does Anders tell Hawke to kill him? Jeez I knew Anders carried a torch but damn.

 

I'll personally do every romance there is to experince it but I'd like more of a mix of drama and stable though I'd rather not play therapist again or deal with exteremeist. Thats what I'm most worried about is getting an LI that I really like but they have a strong standing in the MTW while I personally couldn't care less about it. I think if they balance out the tragic with the happy though everyone has a chance of getting what they would like : 3

In order to keep Sebastian in the party, one must kill Anders.  Anders' response if you go through with it is less, "I deserve it," and more, "They will write history books about me."  It's creepy. 

 

Sebastian doesn't get a final romance line, so I don't know if he says the same thing if one keeps him about without romancing him.  They had a line, so I'd heard, about him staying with Hawke after the incident (Varric: Never figured that one out).  The fact that they cut it suggests to me that we'll run into him trying to get Starkhaven back.

[jncicesp]

As much as I would love an asexual romance, I really don't count Sebastian. He was chaste by choice because of religion. There is a pretty big difference. And when you flirt with him he says he needs to go "pray... a lot". In his short story released he was out with women constantly and "rebeling". I mean... I really do not count it, I thought everything with him was kind of a mess. I guess one could interpret it like that though.

Okay i'll take your word on him..

I'd at least like it if they didn't make sex a requirement for a romance, i think most of the time they could argue that it "makes sense for the character" but at some point saying that for everything is going to get over used.

[Clockwork_Wings]

I think Karl's tranquility and death really impacted Anders, and shaped what path he would take. He doesn't seem to join the mage underground until after Karl has died, after all. I chose the third dialogue line with Anders in my canon apostate run, and I could understand how much he loved Karl. What's interesting is how both Leandra and Bethany comment on Anders reminding them of Malcolm, and even Carver says he's heard about the plight of mages before; I imagined my character seeing him as a younger version of his father.

Gamelen: I hear you moved that apostate boy in with you.  You are your mother's daughter.

 

There's a lot in Anders where you can see the crossroads he came to.  After multiple playthroughs, I noted that the jokey, Alistair Lite Anders was still there, on occasion.  He jokes with Varric about how to punish Bartrand, and Varric says he's usually in the mood for templar jokes.  He get's worse and worse as the acts go by, it's just that Cassandra doesn't want to hear about how this good-natured guy took a dark road. 

 

Anders also did some questionable things in Awakening.  He jokes about having a few wenches and the ability to shoot lighting from his hands, and thinks it's a good idea to side with the baroness, which makes him sound like a coward to me. 

 

If he hadn't joined the wardens.  If he hadn't taken Justice.  If Karl hadn't died.  If he hadn't blown up the chantry.

 

At the last scene, my Hawke tells him s/he might have understood if Anders had been honest.  S/he doesn't mean s/he agrees with it, s/he means s/he might have talked him out of it.  Which is precisely why he doesn't tell Hawke.

 

My girls tend to romance Anders because, as I said, I like my PCs to be in the thick of things.  Anders' is a major player in how it ends, and, whether the warden was an Amell or not, knew the warden personally.

[HuldraDancer]

In order to keep Sebastian in the party, one must kill Anders.  Anders' response if you go through with it is less, "I deserve it," and more, "They will write history books about me."  It's creepy. 

 

Sebastian doesn't get a final romance line, so I don't know if he says the same thing if one keeps him about without romancing him.  They had a line, so I'd heard, about him staying with Hawke after the incident (Varric: Never figured that one out).  The fact that they cut it suggests to me that we'll run into him trying to get Starkhaven back.

Ah I've only killed him one time (mostly cause I need a healer and I'm not loosing much with Sebastian gone^^; ) so I guess I missed that though I did hear that Sebastian will come onto you if you were in a romance with Anders and then killed him but I dont' know if thats true or not I'm working ot find that out on my current playthrough.

 

Sebastian doesn't get anything in terms of romance I found a fan game that made the Sebastian romance so much better than it was on the actual game so theres that I suppose I could pretend its canon. Though I thought someone mentioned that you don't get any line like that with Sebastian though I wouldn't mind finding him trying to retake Starkhaven though my money's on him changing his mind again half way through to keep with the Sebastian tradition xD

[Ferico21]

As much as I love starting new romances in DA games, I would love to see some continuation of previous romances in the series. If(When) we see the warden/hawke return I hope we get to see their partners beside them. 

In DA:O I did a complete relation with morrigan and continued it past witch hunt, so I'm curious now as to where he went since Morrigans a main character in inquisition.

In DA:2 I went with a fem hawke and merril because I thought they made such a cute couple, so that would be nice to see the two again.

But anyways in inquisition I do plan to roll a female again (elf or quanari) but I'd have to wait and decide which companion would fit best with the character made.

Might go Sera, might go Bull. We'll see....

[LobselVith8]

In order to keep Sebastian in the party, one must kill Anders.  Anders' response if you go through with it is less, "I deserve it," and more, "They will write history books about me."  It's creepy. 

 

Sebastian doesn't get a final romance line, so I don't know if he says the same thing if one keeps him about without romancing him.  They had a line, so I'd heard, about him staying with Hawke after the incident (Varric: Never figured that one out).  The fact that they cut it suggests to me that we'll run into him trying to get Starkhaven back.

 

If Sebastian was in a romance and rivaled, he seems to be interested in an actual marriage, rather than a "chaste" one. He does talk to Hawke about how the marriage between the Viscountess of Kirkwall and the Prince of Starkhaven shall be the strongest alliance the Free Marches has ever seen; I'm guessing the  Champion's disappearance act puts a kibosh on that outcome, however (especially with the cut expansion of the Exalted Marches).

[Clockwork_Wings]

Okay i'll take your word on him..

I'd at least like it if they didn't make sex a requirement for a romance, i think most of the time they could argue that it "makes sense for the character" but at some point saying that for everything is going to get over used.

A lot of people have said they felt the sex scenes feel like a prize.  One of the things I like about DA2 in particular (DAO is very similar) is that they're not, they're a major turning point.  In DA2, once one has bedded a companion, that's a signal to keep going or end it there. 

 

I wouldn't mind the option of not bedding a companion, though, without risk of ending the romance.  If I'm not mistaken, Alistair is that way.  If the warden does not offer herself and does not harden him, he does not bring it up either.

[Clockwork_Wings]

Ah I've only killed him one time (mostly cause I need a healer and I'm not loosing much with Sebastian gone^^; ) so I guess I missed that though I did hear that Sebastian will come onto you if you were in a romance with Anders and then killed him but I dont' know if thats true or not I'm working ot find that out on my current playthrough.

 

Sebastian doesn't get anything in terms of romance I found a fan game that made the Sebastian romance so much better than it was on the actual game so theres that I suppose I could pretend its canon. Though I thought someone mentioned that you don't get any line like that with Sebastian though I wouldn't mind finding him trying to retake Starkhaven though my money's on him changing his mind again half way through to keep with the Sebastian tradition xD

 

There's a character swap of a female Hawke taking Isabella's place and Sebastian taking Hawke's place, in Isabella's love scene.  It exists on youtube.

If Sebastian was in a romance and rivaled, he seems to be interested in an actual marriage, rather than a "chaste" one. He does talk to Hawke about how the marriage between the Viscountess of Kirkwall and the Prince of Starkhaven shall be the strongest alliance the Free Marches has ever seen; I'm guessing the  Champion's disappearance act puts a kibosh on that outcome, however (especially with the cut expansion of the Exalted Marches).

I've never rivalmanced Sebastian.  I find his rival path distasteful.  I'd have preferred a means to tell him that the maker probably understands that he's the last of his line and his people need a ruler who isn't a simpleton, without sounding like Hawke's telling him the chantry is stupid.

[jncicesp]

A lot of people have said they felt the sex scenes feel like a prize.  One of the things I like about DA2 in particular (DAO is very similar) is that they're not, they're a major turning point.  In DA2, once one has bedded a companion, that's a signal to keep going or end it there. 

 

I wouldn't mind the option of not bedding a companion, though, without risk of ending the romance.  If I'm not mistaken, Alistair is that way.  If the warden does not offer herself and does not harden him, he does not bring it up either.

That was my favorite thing about the romances in Dragon Age 2,  that having sex with them wasn't the end/beginning of the romance like pretty much every game with romances. but I still would like the option to turn them down and still be in the romance.

[HuldraDancer]

There's a character swap of a female Hawke taking Isabella's place and Sebastian taking Hawke's place, in Isabella's love scene.  It exists on youtube.

Oh I don't need to see a sex scene with them I just felt the romance as a whole was lacking and the fan game I found added a lot to it actually made it seem like a romance that and having Anders barging in saying 'did someone call for a cockblock' is pretty funny by itself xD I'm fine with no sex in romances but I'd like maybe a kiss or a hand hold or them showing up to comfort me when my mother dies but I can't really blame that on one him since I don't' think you can confirm the romance until after that happens.

[Kisari]

If Sebastian was in a romance and rivaled, he seems to be interested in an actual marriage, rather than a "chaste" one. He does talk to Hawke about how the marriage between the Viscountess of Kirkwall and the Prince of Starkhaven shall be the strongest alliance the Free Marches has ever seen; I'm guessing the  Champion's disappearance act puts a kibosh on that outcome, however (especially with the cut expansion of the Exalted Marches).

While he does, sadly in the last scene he says "maybe in another life" and thats it. Oh wait I have a screeny here we go:

Spoiler

Unlike with friendship where it is talked about in Legacy that you actually did get chaste married. I much prefer Rivalmance as I do not like all the chantry stuff. I don't mind the no sex scenes with him. There was just... nothing but that last scene and then it's not mentioned again. I feel like if there was at least something mentioned in the ending to acknowledge the possibility that there was something, I would have felt better about it... but as is, I don't consider Rivalmance to even be a romance. It seems like Hawke doesn't even end up with him. ><

 

 

That was my favorite thing about the romances in Dragon Age 2,  that having sex with them wasn't the end/beginning of the romance like pretty much every game with romances. but I still would like the option to turn them down and still be in the romance.

I agree with this, I much much prefer the actual relationship and I almost always skip sex cutscenes.

[Xesthan]

My Qunari mage is probably going to act like sarcastic Hawke and flirt with Cassandra instead of being serious. That would be amusing.

[Eveangaline]

Sex scenes are best if either fade to black or unintentionally hilarious like DOAs was.

[The Elder King]

On the Hepler's character being switched to Gaider, that's Cassandra. I guess it's possible David is writing an advisor, but with Dorian being his character and very likely gay LI, we know the romances he wrote.
So if that rumour is true (which I haven't personally saw it), It'd definitely mean Cass, since I think Dorian knows alread he's attracted to males.

[wright1978]

Sex scenes are best if either fade to black or unintentionally hilarious like DOAs was.

Not a fan of fade to black.

[GameBoyish]

Not a fan of fade to black.

I'd prefer something like the ones in Mass Effect 2.

[Vapaa]

So if that rumour is true (which I haven't personally saw it), It'd definitely mean Cass, since I think Dorian knows alread he's attracted to males.

 

STOP GETTING MY HOPES UP

 

I call BS on that "coming out" theory, never saw a single solid source, so no.

[Former_Fiend]

Well they're always going to be fade to black, it's just a matter of when they fade to black. How much we get to see before the fade. 

 

Personally I'm a fan of the ME style scenes as I think pure fade to black straight from conversation lacks...intimacy. 

[The Elder King]

STOP GETTING MY HOPES UP
 
I call BS on that "coming out" theory, never saw a single solid source, so no.

I said if those rumours are true, It'd be Cass, but I stated as well that I never read it (implying that as far as I'm concerned those rumours might not be true).
If someone manages to recall where it was stated, It'd be a great help.

[Tremere]

All this who and why romance nonsense (and what it costs) just makes my Inquisitor want to stay single. Thank the Maker for places like The Pearl and The Blooming Rose. There he can pay for whomever he wants to love him. A dwarf, an elf, male, female, a slippery nug, a transgender named Serendipity... Whatever. *hahaha!*

 

I'm not sure how I feel about games being a microcosm of the world we live in, no matter how much of my own sensibilities I project into my character. In regards to the game, I admit that I am disappointed about Sera not being available to male characters. On the other hand, I'm curious about how much of an enriching experience it would be to have my character share affection and connect with someone on another level without the "romance". Perhaps this is what BioWare means by "romances being more complex". Romance does not necessarily equal sexual relationship. I get that... I'm just not sure how I feel about it in game. Then again, if this is all about cost effectiveness, I say, *bah!*