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[In Exile]

Example...when I see a guy that I might work with at the office or his place of business, it's more of a crush. Couple of conversations, maybe we have to head in the same direction for whatever reason so 'get to travel together briefly'. It's a superficial relationship. (I don't develop interest in someone to the point where I think....I WANT this person from low-level interactions.)

 

Someone I work with closely, every day, am put into dangerous situations with, who is there when I make a decision or action in front of them and they react to it (is there to EXPERIENCE IT vs hearing about it and then reacting retroactively), can have conversations with, travel with me.....THAT's developing a relationship. Even outside of 'romance specific conversations and interactions'. (This sort of day to day experiencing things at the same time as me is what makes me interested in someone.)

 

NPC sits back at the stronghold and maybe joins me for one jaunt in 6 months of time? But I can talk to them when I get back to stronghold to sell my crap or do a save game? Or whatever reason I'm back at stronghold? Yeah, not as deep feeling as being 'put in the tick of things' with a companion.

 

 

Not looking forward to the very real possibility that there may be NO 'mine only' companion character to chose from.

 

When I start to date someone, I'm seeing them maybe once, at most twice a week. If we're not working at the same place, even if we date seriously, we maybe see each other 3-4 times a week, and only for part of the day (putting aside weekends). I just don't see how this DA:I situation is different, since clearly the Inquisitor does not disappear for months, and it looks like your advisors are at your camp (so it's like seeing people after work). 

[Feybrad]

I'm going to guess who the LI's will be + the one's that we already know.

 

Scribbles: Male/Female

Vivienne: Male/Female

Iron Bull: Male/ Female

Dorian: Male

Cassandra: Male

Sera: Female

Cullen: Female

 

That'd be my List, too, but I think, they will be going for some Symmetry and will have the Advisor Romances have the same Orientation. Thus, I'd put Cullen as "bi" and add, just from a gut feeling, Varric for the straight Women.

[Maria Caliban]

You keep saying it matters, but I'm asking, how does it matter? Why does it matter? If they react to those events back at camp, what difference does it make? Is my romance with Leliana less good or legitimate if I think rogues suck and don't want to take them with me? 
 
I'm not trying to be snarky. I honestly don't get it.

The first time I played TOR, I had a JC and used Qyzen Fess as my only companion. I did conversations/stories with others, but didn't take them anywhere.

If you asked me the names of the companions for the JC, I couldn't tell you any of them save for Nalia (the only girl) and Qyzen. This is because I spent almost a hundred hours with him by my side, making lizard grunts, keeping him up to date with new inventory.

Even if advisors theoretically got the same number of conversations, quests, and cutscenes as a companion (and they won't) that's still not spending a hundred hours with them.

[GriffinFire]

I can certainly agree that the advisor romances will be quite different from the companion romances.

[wright1978]

You keep saying it matters, but I'm asking, how does it matter? Why does it matter? If they react to those events back at camp, what difference does it make? Is my romance with Leliana less good or legitimate if I think rogues suck and don't want to take them with me? 
 
I'm not trying to be snarky. I honestly don't get it.

What part of experiencing events side by side don't you get.
Your free not to want to take li for whatever reason you wish. My view is that it is inferior.

[Vapaa]

The first time I played TOR, I had a JC and used Qyzen Fess as my only companion. I did conversations/stories with others, but didn't take them anywhere.

If you asked me the names of the companions for the JC, I couldn't tell you any of them save for Nalia (the only girl) and Qyzen. This is because I spent almost a hundred hours with him by my side, making lizard grunts, keeping him up to date with new inventory.

Even if advisors theoretically got the same number of conversations, quests, and cutscenes as a companion (and they won't) that's still not spending a hundred hours with them.

 

TOR=/=DAI

[Sylvianus]

Advisors will be better than npcs romance in M3. That's all we know. I don't believe at all, that they will have the same content to be honest. Less banter, less opinions about what we do and what we choose, less screentime. Yes, screentime is important. Even for the imagination it's not even funny. In M3 Miranda, my Li was like with my shepard for a few days during all the months fighting against the reapers. Meh. I  chose Ashley as Li because I can write a story that makes sense and where my Li isn't separated from me most of time. Again, this isn't funny.   Unless they follow us as well, but I don't see why Scribe girl would do such thing, she has a job to do behind the lines.

 

I didn't change my mind. being stuck between one npc and one companion will not make me happy.

 

How is it going to work ? With my companions, I can talk to them almost wherever and whenever I want, beginning new discussions. What about the Npcs romances ?  My inquisitor must walk for weeks in the countryside to come back to his Li  and to launch a new discussion ?  Or will it be like DAII where I must wait that an event happens, and so they come to me, and I can talk to them ? Then, I couldn't choose the time when my romance begins in this case ? This is definitely less funny.

 

Being worried is totally valid.

[Larask]

What are you saying? What's wrong with Vivienne being bi? 

 There is nothing wrong with what Danielle100 is saying, there is just more demand (here and on Tumblr) for Cassandra to be available for fem!Inquisitor. She is quite popular around some girls And personally, I just can't see Viv with girls. 

[Jaulen]

Advisors will be better than npcs romance in M3. That's all we know. I don't believe at all, that they will have the same content to be honest. Less banter, less opinions about what we do and what we choose, less screentime. Yes, screentime is important. Even for the imagination it's not even funny. In M3 Miranda, my Li was like with my shepard for a few days during all the months fighting against the reapers. Meh. I  chose Ashley as Li because I can write a story that makes sense and where my Li isn't separated from me most of time. Again, this isn't funny.   Unless they follow us as well, but I don't see why Scribe girl would do such thing, she has a job to do behind the lines.

 

I didn't change my mind. being stuck between one npc and one companion will not make me happy.

 

How is it going to work ? With my companions, I can talk to them almost wherever and whenever I want, beginning new discussions. What about the Npcs romances ?  My inquisitor must walk for weeks in the countryside to come back to his Li  and to launch a new discussion ?  Or will it be like DAII where I must wait that an event happens, and so they come to me, and I can talk to them ? Then, I couldn't choose the time when my romance begins in this case ? This is definitely less funny.

 

Being worried is totally valid.

 

 

I'm going to second your screen time comment.

 

And also why in ME3, it's Garrus ftw.

(I also like his arc...not romancable, but a close friend who respects you....to still respects you, develops into a fling, stress of OMG we're all going to die!.....to 'more interested than I thought!'  and Shep and Garrus grow very close.) And ya-know.....felt interesting since...well he's there through everything. Kaidan seems so much more 'meh'. 

[KC_Prototype]

 There is nothing wrong with what Danielle100 is saying, there is just more demand (here and on Tumblr) for Cassandra to be available for fem!Inquisitor. She is quite popular around some girls And personally, I just can't see Viv with girls. 

I can, she's Orlesian. Orlesians are more open.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I totally understand being upset at having only 1 companion and 1 NPC romance if other people get 2 companion romances. I would be annoyed with it, too, if I thought my exclusive would be the NPC.

 

When you do a companion romance, you can take your LI everywhere with you and experience the entire story together. There's a feeling that you had this whole experience together and the culmination of your efforts is shared. It's this great feeling of equality and shared accomplishment. They saw and suffered through all the hardest parts of your adventure and they were there for all the highs and the laughs. During every boss fight you might hear another companion call out that they went down and can imagine that you're fighting harder to protect them. You have all these hours spent with them right beside you. Seeing your advisor at camp and having them show up a limited amount of times is not the same experience.

 

I understand that not everyone feels the difference is important, and that's fine. What I wish people would accept is that it is different and that the difference does really effect some people's experience. Because of that, I really wish they would make the advisors the bi options, so that people that like the "something to come home to" experience can access them, while nobody that likes the usual companion experience feels like they got a lesser spread. Since NPC romances offer a different experience, it just seems the most fair to distribute them evenly. 

 

But obviously they can't change it at this point, so we'll just have to wait and see what they decided to do.  

[KC_Prototype]

Advisors will be better than npcs romance in M3. That's all we know. I don't believe at all, that they will have the same content to be honest. Less banter, less opinions about what we do and what we choose, less screentime. Yes, screentime is important. Even for the imagination it's not even funny. In M3 Miranda, my Li was like with my shepard for a few days during all the months fighting against the reapers. Meh. I  chose Ashley as Li because I can write a story that makes sense and where my Li isn't separated from me most of time. Again, this isn't funny.   Unless they follow us as well, but I don't see why Scribe girl would do such thing, she has a job to do behind the lines.

 

I didn't change my mind. being stuck between one npc and one companion will not make me happy.

 

How is it going to work ? With my companions, I can talk to them almost wherever and whenever I want, beginning new discussions. What about the Npcs romances ?  My inquisitor must walk for weeks in the countryside to come back to his Li  and to launch a new discussion ?  Or will it be like DAII where I must wait that an event happens, and so they come to me, and I can talk to them ? Then, I couldn't choose the time when my romance begins in this case ? This is definitely less funny.

 

Being worried is totally valid.

I'll agree on that. ME1 I romanced Ashley but in ME2 and ME3 I romanced Miranda and I was and still am very disappointed in Miranda's romance in ME3. She was supposed to be a squad member but EA rushed the game and she got content cut...I really wish ME3 was delayed 8 months. But to get back on topic, I think Advisors' romances will be equal in content but not necessarily banter outside the SKyhold. 

[Larask]

I can, she's Orlesian. Orlesians are more open.

Fair enough, but Cass has spend a considerable amount of time in Orlais as well. So I wouldn't assume that just because they are Orlesian/lived in Orlais for years.  

[Fizzie Panda]

I'll agree on that. ME1 I romanced Ashley but in ME2 and ME3 I romanced Miranda and I was and still am very disappointed in Miranda's romance in ME3. She was supposed to be a squad member but EA rushed the game and she got content cut...I really wish ME3 was delayed 8 months. But to get back on topic, I think Advisors' romances will be equal in content but not necessarily banter outside the SKyhold. 

Miranda was gonna be a squad member?!?!? *self destructs* I wish they would've delayed it too then.

[Fizzie Panda]

I would romance Scribbles or Vivienne first over anyone else, even Dorian.

 

I hope they'll show that chart before release so I know who I can leap for.

[wright1978]

Fair enough, but Cass has spend a considerable amount of time in Orlais as well. So I wouldn't assume that just because they are Orlesian/lived in Orlais for years.

Don't see any reason why either is any more likely than other to be bi. I can get that there may be more demand for one but demand doesn't seem to have overly played role in existing declared orientations.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I think when you start saying "they seem more bi to me" or "I can't see them with *gender*" you are getting into some pretty uncomfortable territory. There's no bi personality. Any of our companions could be bi, except obviously Sera and Dorian, since they're confirmed. None of them have said they weren't. 

[coldwetn0se]

Still strongly in the all bi/pansexual group, in large part to all of these points. But it is, what it is.

I fear that my straight ladies may be in trouble, and possibly my bi/lesbian's as well. But that has to do (admittedly) with tastes preferences, and what type of PC's I am wanting/willing to role play. As interesting as I think Iron Bull is, if he is my only other option with Cullen, then my straight female Inquisitors are SOL. From a RP standpoint, I have no interest in either as a romance. Toss Cassandra in as straight, and with the exception of maybe my mischievous female mage Inquisitor who I could RP going for Sera (or Scribbles, if she turns out to be an option), my bi/lesbian ladies will also be loveless. lol! Keeping my fingers crossed for a Bi Cassandra, and a Bi or straight Solas.

My male Inquisitors are fine though. I suspect their choices, both gay and straight, are well covered.

[Maria Caliban]

TOR=/=DAI

Spending a lot of time with a character == Spending a lot of time with a character.

[Vapaa]

Spending a lot of time with a character == Spending a lot of time with a character.

 

Who says you won't be spending time with your advisors ?

[GriffinFire]

 There is nothing wrong with what Danielle100 is saying, there is just more demand (here and on Tumblr) for Cassandra to be available for fem!Inquisitor. She is quite popular around some girls And personally, I just can't see Viv with girls. 

 

I was browsing the Vivienne tag on Tumblr last night, and easily half of the posts expressed hope that Viv would be a romance for ladies.  Ladies, including myself, are very interested in Vivienne, and I see no reason she shouldn't be interested right back.

[Larask]

Don't see any reason why either is any more likely than other to be bi. I can get that there may be more demand for one but demand doesn't seem to have overly played role in existing declared orientations.

That's why I said on my first response that "personally" I don't see Viv being bi, I think Cassandra has a better chance based on what I have seen from both of them (and granted, we have seen more Cassandra than Viv). However in general, think that demand plays a role in the developers decision as well, at least they are aware when there a high demand. Weren't Garrus and Tali an LI option in ME2 due to high demand from the first game? I am pretty sure I saw BioWare commenting on this in the old forums because I remember that they were surprised that people wanted to romance Tali when she had no face (of course this doesn't mean that they will always do what we want, but they are one the very few companies that actually closely listen to the fans in this aspect). As for demand in DA games I am not so sure since the  roamcesystem changed from game to game.  I do understand that BW is not going to change things after they already made a firm decision of the romances though and that's ok. 

[Larask]

I was browsing the Vivienne tag on Tumblr last night, and easily half of the posts expressed hope that Viv would be a romance for ladies.  Ladies, including myself, are very interested in Vivienne, and I see no reason she shouldn't be interested right back.

Right and that's fine, (again, a matter of personal preference here). However, overall, the Cassandra demand may have been there for longer since many were interested in her since DA2.