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#6276
Eudaemonium

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Correction, 1.5. Alistair is half-elf.

 

Was it ever actually confirmed that Alistair was Fiona's son? I thought the timelines didn't actually match up or something. (Though I cannot imagine it being anyone else, since that would mean there was another son of Maric running around wherever Duncan left him).



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We don't know that for sure.



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I love how optimism people are thinking that they would make both straight options to be NPC. The straight girls may be okay with it but based on how rile up the straight guys are thinking Bioware has abandoned them, it would not end well if that's the case. Bioware is not that stupid. 

 

How exactly has BioWare abandoned straight men if they end up making Scribble straight? It's not like all the other LI end up all restricted to female because of it.

 

People are going to be pissed they won't be able to romance whoever they want regardless of what the chart end up being. This is worth repeating. There is no winning combo possible here.

 

I still don't understand why so many people seem to think Blackwall (an older, possibly dying dude) is more likely than Solas (a younger, seemingly healthy elf). We already have a human male in Cullen.

 

Look isn't everything to define a LI. Solas could be a 10000 years old dude that keep his look young by drinking the blood of virgins for all we know. I also don't think BioWare has a policy of "always have the elves romanceable" either, it  just happened that way.



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Actually, we don't know what that green fade thing means for the Inquisitor. May be their days are numbered. I wouldn't be surprised if PC is to commit a heroic sacrifice or something. For the drama and not to deal with the Inquisitor in the next game.


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#6280
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If the theory pans out (still not convinced), then I hope that straight gals also get IB because otherwise they are getting an NPC and a guy who is approaching his Calling.  After the ME 3 debacle, that might not be the best received.  This way, they would get a third romance, who is also a companion and (as far as we know) doesn't have any terminal illnesses.

Or maybe straight females get Cullen and Blackwall because we had extra LI in DA2. Maybe Blackwall is very sweet and lovely and I'm very happy because he is LI and then in the middle of the game he dies... :pinched:



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That didn't stop Alistair, did it?

Alistair let him emotions get in the way of duty and abandon the order altogether just because a new warden decides that Loghain should live. While it's his decision, I wouldn't say he puts the warden's duty first.



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Was it ever actually confirmed that Alistair was Fiona's son? I thought the timelines didn't actually match up or something. (Though I cannot imagine it being anyone else, since that would mean there was another son of Maric running around wherever Duncan left him).

I think I read somewhere it was misedited.  I'm more curious about if Alistair is Fiona's son, who is Goldanna and why does he think that's his sister?  My guess, the wetnurse's daughter.



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That didn't stop Alistair, did it?

 

If you convince Alistair to do the Dark Ritual, he is going against what the grey Wardens believe in. So he probably doesn't have as strong a sense of duty as their character spotlights on Blackwell seem to give him. 



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Actually, we don't know what that green fade thing means for the Inquisitor. May be their days are numbered. I wouldn't be surprised if PC is to commit a heroic sacrifice or something. For the drama and not to deal with the Inquisitor in the next game.

 

I've been expecting the heroic sacrifice at the end, myself.  Just the vibe I'm getting.



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I am just fine with Cullen and Blackwall as my straight female love options. When Iplay a straight male... well, lets just say unless Scribbles is available the other women are not all that appealing to me... Sera was my first choice, but she is not available so.... come on Scribbles!



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Do not get me wrong - I think Blackwall is attractive and I have a thirst for an older LI, I just don't want it if he's also a Grey Warden.  Duncan was already having signs of hearing the Calling and he was visually the same age (or slightly younger) than Blackwall.  I love angst and IF he ended up being an option I will give him one of my Quizzies down the line because, as I said, dayum he fine...but since we're discussing our druthers  at the moment I'm throwing my two cents at Cullen, IB and Solas.



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If you convince Alistair to do the Dark Ritual, he is going against what the grey Wardens believe in. So he probably doesn't have as strong a sense of duty as their character spotlights on Blackwell seem to give him. 

 

I still don't see how duty somehow precludes Blackwall from romance.  Heck, Anders repeatedly tells Hawke that his cause for the mages is more important than his love with Hawke, and he ended up blowing up a building over it, too.



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If you convince Alistair to do the Dark Ritual, he is going against what the grey Wardens believe in. So he probably doesn't have as strong a sense of duty as their character spotlights on Blackwell seem to give him. 

An argument given in The Calling is that wardens do whatever it takes.  Some would probably see ending the blight by converting the instigators into healthy children that can be taught right from wrong as a good idea.  Perhaps a schism over this is what causes us to have to fight the wardens.

 

But that's a discussion for another thread.


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How exactly has BioWare abandoned straight men if they end up making Scribble straight? It's not like all the other LI end up all restricted to female because of it.

 

People are going to be pissed they won't be able to romance whoever they want regardless of what the chart end up being. This is worth repeating. There is no winning combo possible here.

 

 

Look isn't everything to define a LI. Solas could be a 10000 years old dude that keep his look young by drinking the blood of virgins for all we know. I also don't think BioWare has a policy of "always have the elves romanceable" either, it  just happened that way.

Because they see it as unfair their exclusive option is an NPC while the gay options are companions. A lot of gays and lesbians weren't a fan of their options being relegated to NPC status in ME3. I am used to this treatment as mentioned before, but a lot of straight guys see that as unfair. They're used to preferential treatment. That would make it worse in a way. There is a mentality that companions are better than NPCs in term of connections and romances, so when their exclusive option is not the best, there will be riot. I'm pretty sure Cassandra, and if based on that theory Blackwall, will be the straight options.



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Because they see it as unfair their exclusive option is an NPC while the gay options are companions. A lot of gays and lesbians weren't a fan of their options being relegated to NPC status in ME3. I am used to this treatment as mentioned before, but a lot of straight guys see that as unfair. They're used to preferential treatment. That would make it worse in a way. There is a mentality that companions are better than NPCs in term of connections and romances, so when their exclusive option is not the best, there will be riot. I'm pretty sure Cassandra, and if based on that theory Blackwall, will be the straight options.

Wouldn't it be funny if the NPC romances turned out to be super awesome and some of the more popular romances?  Just because Bioware wanted to show it could be done?


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My worst case scenario would be Cullen, Blackwall and IB as romances options and Blackwall dies, Cullen became crazy and IB would cheat on you and you can't do anything about those things. But I think that is not going to happen.



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Wouldn't it be funny if the NPC romances turned out to be super awesome and some of the more popular romances?  Just because Bioware wanted to show it could be done?

 

Wouldn't matter, to be honest.



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Also to drive a nail in that "all elves must be romance options" coffin:

 

All Grey Wardens (sans Loghain who only becomes a playable character at the end of DA:O) have also been romance options, regardless of being tragic or not (and Anders was a doomed romance from the very get go).



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I still don't see how duty somehow precludes Blackwall from romance.  Heck, Anders repeatedly tells Hawke that his cause for the mages is more important than his love with Hawke, and he ended up blowing up a building over it, too.

 

For all the reasons Wynne lectures you about romancing companions. Love is selfish - if you have a choice between saving the world or the one you love, what do you do?

 

Had my Warden not romanced anyone, I probably could have done the ultimate sacrifice. But since my Warden love Alistair, and couldn't bear either of them dying, she talked him into doing a ritual with unknown consequences. I made that decision knowing that I could have just completely screwed over the world, but "that's a problem for another time, at least we're both alive."

 

A strong sense of duty would mean not wanting to put yourself into a situation that could comprise your duty. Which love would do. It could make someone who was close to their Calling, and accepting of their fate, suddenly no longer want to die.



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My worst case scenario would be Cullen, Blackwall and IB as romances options and Blackwall dies, Cullen became crazy and IB would cheat on you and you can't do anything about those things. But I think that is not going to happen.

Dragon Age meets Mass Effect, straight female edition. 


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....I don't think that Solas and Vivienne will be romanceable companions. Sigh, here is why e__e (I know fans of solas and who wants to romance him won't agree with this, but hear me out)

Notice..

Cassandra
Cullen

Ironbull
Scribbles

Sera
Dorian

I believe these folks will be our romance options. They say that it'll be the most romances in any dragon age game so in Orgins, we had 4. in dragon age 2 we had 5, when you include sebastion. Inquisition we'll likely have 6. 2 straight, 2 bi and 2 gay. remember a looong time ago when we were speculating 2/3/2? 2 straight, 3 bi and 2 gay? I don't believe in it anymore..(I want to still believe) it just makes sense that cassandra and cullen will be our straight romances, Ironbull and scribbles will be our bi, while sera and dorian are the gay options. This is just what I think x] There's still a good chance that Vivienne and Solas will be romances but..ehhhh...the faith is swaying xD


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#6297
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For all the reasons Wynne lectures you about romancing companions. Love is selfish - if you have a choice between saving the world or the one you love, what do you do?

 

Had my Warden not romanced anyone, I probably could have done the ultimate sacrifice. But since my Warden love Alistair, and couldn't bear either of them dying, she talked him into doing a ritual with unknown consequences. I made that decision knowing that I could have just completely screwed over the world, but "that's a problem for another time, at least we're both alive."

 

A strong sense of duty would mean not wanting to put yourself into a situation that could comprise your duty. Which love would do. It could make someone who was close to their Calling, and accepting of their fate, suddenly no longer want to die.

 

And I still don't see how this would preclude Blackwall from ever having romantic feelings for the Inquisitor.  A conflicted romance?  Say it ain't so.



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....I don't think that Solas and Vivienne will be romanceable companions. Sigh, here is why e__e (I know fans of solas and who wants to romance him won't agree with this, but hear me out)

Notice..

Cassandra
Cullen

Ironbull
Scribbles

Sera
Dorian

I believe these folks will be our romance options. They say that it'll be the most romances in any dragon age game so in Orgins, we had 4. in dragon age 2 we had 5, when you include sebastion. Inquisition we'll likely have 6. 2 straight, 2 bi and 2 gay. remember a looong time ago when we were speculating 2/3/2? 2 straight, 3 bi and 2 gay? I don't believe in it anymore..(I want to still believe) it just makes sense that cassandra and cullen will be our straight romances, Ironbull and scribbles will be our bi, while sera and dorian are the gay options. This is just what I think x] There's still a good chance that Vivienne and Solas will be romances but..ehhhh...the faith is swaying xD

 

But they have confirmed there will be racial gating, and the 2/2/2 doesn't cover that. If any of those are racially gated, at least one demographic is getting the short end of the stick.



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Yes. Say IB is only available for Qunari and humans. So dwarven and elven straight girls will only have one option - Cullen (NPC). I doubt that's going to happen.



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But they have confirmed there will be racial gating, and the 2/2/2 doesn't cover that. If any of those are racially gated, at least one demographic is getting the short end of the stick.

 oh goodness I forgot about that
...awwe crap  :huh: there's still alot we don't know about the romances, but this does give me hope that solas might be available. or even the blackwall