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[Dean_the_Young]

Garrus does not wangst about his drama any more than the others.  If you disagree than you disagree?  Personally, if we get a DAI romance anywhere close to Garrus I will cheer.

I disagree. Not least because ME2 was a ship filled with people who needed a good psychiatrist. Even the ship-board counselor (and what a waste of a role playing opportunity Kelly was) needed one by the end.

[Dean_the_Young]

There's many ways to see ME or DA characters.  It's what I like about them.

 

I always wanted to write a fanfic that would be titled something like '10 things I don't respect about you,' which would have been a Shepard POV takedown piece of all the companions and their flaws. Not necessarily the obvious ones either, but definitely the sort to make any fan defender take to the barricades.

 

It would have read a lot like a hate fic, until you realized towards the end (and Shepard's own takedown of him/herself) that Shepard was also filled with self-loathing of an even greater degree, and that while the companions all had their flaws they also had redeeming things that Shepard envied. Or something like that.

[HuldraDancer]

Sorry guys don't mean to derail here but is anyone else having trouble accessing Solas's info on the main site? I can get a little bit of it on the Character section but he's disappeared from the News section : (

[Tootles FTW]

I disagree. Not least because ME2 was a ship filled with people who needed a good psychiatrist. Even the ship-board counselor (and what a waste of a role playing opportunity Kelly was) needed one by the end.

 

Fair enough, sir.  

 

 

Fenris is really full of anger, no doubt, and yes, I think in rel life I'd probably find him a little bit scary... But in videogames I'm incredibly tolerant: agressive personalities, unrepentant assassins, terrorists... I'm ok with everything, apparently  ... (btw, I encourage Garrus to kill Sidonis even if I usually lean a lot toward paragon choices  )

 

But the important thing for me, the reasonswhy I take Fenris over Garrus, it's just I think it's better written (my personal opinion, of course), with or without drama, and even if I'd rather have no drama at all

 

While Garrus is my current favorite Bioware romance (and character) I also love Fenris.  DG writes my favorite DA companions, a reason why I'm particularly looking forward to Dorian.  PW was also responsible for a lot of Garrus dialogue outside of the Normandy in ME2/3, if I'm not mistaken, so his characters are one to watch for me, too.

[godModeAlpha]

Sorry, but I think you're hyperbolizing the situation and unfairly making real-life analogies - especially considering the protagonist of the game in question is currently working for/with a terrorist organization (Hello, Miranda! Hi, Jacob!).  And "justifying torturing and killing other people" is insinuating that this refers to Garrus?
We are going to have to disagree as I don't want to start a dissertation here. 
 

 
EDIT - though I am curious what you consider a "well adjusted" love interest?  A bowl of pudding?

Lol ... Any Lebowski pic cracks me up, that's my movie tonight, +1

[Tamyn]

Sorry guys don't mean to derail here but is anyone else having trouble accessing Solas's info on the main site? I can get a little bit of it on the Character section but he's disappeared from the News section : (

 

The interview disappeared.

 

http://www.dragonage...r-profile-solas

[javeart]

Fair enough, sir.  

 

 

While Garrus is my current favorite Bioware romance (and character) I also love Fenris.  DG writes my favorite DA companions, a reason why I'm particularly looking forward to Dorian.  PW was also responsible for a lot of Garrus dialogue outside of the Normandy in ME2/3, if I'm not mistaken, so his characters are one to watch for me, too.

 

I'm totally with you about Dorian, and he might be the reason I make my first male PC in DA  ... I had a not really good experience playing a male Shepard for Jack (and a second bad experience for Miranda), I hope this time works better if I finally do it... There's also Cassandra...

 

In any case, Weekes has written my absolute favourites companions in ME, romances aside (Mordin  ) so I'm not very into IB as LI (but that's because of his looks and I think I might like him a lot as companion) but I'm very optimistic about Solas... Here's hoping he's finally a LI 

[Kirie]

Sorry guys don't mean to derail here but is anyone else having trouble accessing Solas's info on the main site? I can get a little bit of it on the Character section but he's disappeared from the News section : (

Here's the interview  Posted from the Solas thread

 

Spoiler

[DRAGON AGE]: What can you tell us about Solas?

 

[PATRICK WEEKES]:He’s pretty straightforward, honestly. Just your average elven apostate who voluntarily joins the Inquisition in the middle of the mage rebellion to lend his expertise with the Fade.

[DA]: “Average,” huh?

[PW]: I like to keep it simple.

[DA]: There’s a lot of ground to cover with Solas, so let’s start with him as an apostate—meaning he practices magic outside the Circle of Magi. Did he escape with the rest of the rebel mages?

[PW]: Actually, he was never in one of the Circles to begin with.

[DA]: Interesting.

[PW]: Thedas is a pretty big place, and unless you go around burninating the peasants, you may never come to the attention of the templars.

[DA]: Without the Circle to provide training, how did he learn to control his power?

[PW]: Solas is largely self-taught; while he can comfortably defend himself, he cares more about exploring the Fade than he does about hurling fireballs.

[DA]: What makes the Fade so interesting?

[PW]: Okay, so, the Fade—bear with me, this gets a little weird—the Fade is the spirit side of the Dragon Age universe. It’s this incredible place full of dreams and memories, imprints left behind by powerful emotions or events in our world. Solas has trained himself to do something a lot like lucid-dreaming. He goes to ancient ruins where the Veil is thin, goes to sleep, and actually experiences the history of places no one else has seen in centuries.

[DA]: Is that sort of vision accurate?

[PW]: Absolutely not. It’s based off people’s memories, right? Ask ten different witnesses at a crime scene to describe what happened, and you’ll get all kinds of conflicting information. Solas knows that everything he sees in the Fade is subjective and imperfect. It’s like a gigantic Wikipedia entry full of “[citation needed]” notes, but still, Solas has found some amazing things.

[DA]: In past games, the Fade has been a dangerous place, full of demons.

[PW]: Yes. Most people in Thedas think of the Fade as demon-land… and Solas believes this is part of the problem. If you go into a realm that by its very naturereflects the thoughts and fears of living people, and if all you’re ever taught in the Chantry is that the Fade is this terrible place that wants to kill or possess you, then when you get there, of course it’s like that.

[DA]: Solas doesn’t fear the Fade?

[PW]: I’d say he respects it. It’s still dangerous, but because Solas found the Fade on his own, he went in without preconceptions, letting him explore the area and befriend spirits without the black-and-white mentality that holds back mages trained in the Circle. While everyone else guards themselves, assuming everything in the Fade is a threat, Solas will find a brilliant unimaginable light, smile delightedly, and move in for a closer look.

[DA]: Does that extensive knowledge aid him in combat?

[PW]: On the battlefield, Solas’s expertise with the Fade lets him manipulate magic in ways that would never occur to most mages.

Off the battlefield, when Solas sees a giant hole open up in the sky with demons pouring out of it, he knows that he can help where Circle mages cannot. As a result, although there is no guarantee they won’t locked him up as just another apostate, Solas comes voluntarily to the Inquisition.

[DA]: Did you find his character challenging to write?

[PW]: Writing Solas had its moments, yes. I personally love characters who are intelligent, characters who don’t necessarily breakthe universe they’re in, but who make players reexamine their own assumptions and look at that world in a new way. It’ll be interesting to see who thinks he’s fascinating and who thinks he’s out of his ever-Fade-loving mind.

[DA]: One would assume that opinions vary among his fellow companions as well.

[PW]:Absolutely. Vivienne is as loyal a Circle mage as you’ll find, so having this scruffy little hedge mage pop in and say, “You’re all close-minded, you should be making friends with spirits,” causes her to get icily disdainful as only Vivienne can. Solas and the Iron Bull also spar over Qunari beliefs, as Solas believes in freedom of thought more than anything else, and the Qunari tend to be pretty rigid there. On the other hand, Solas and Cole get along rather wonderfully.

[DA]: Because Cole is a spirit?

[PW]: Yes; Cole is trying to figure out what that means, and Solas can answer a lot of Cole’s questions. The two of them have fascinating talks about what it means to be a spirit, usually with the rest of the party watching the two with these narrow-eyed “What the what?” looks.

[DA]: In addition to dealing with the world’s perception of mages, he’s also elven. How does he deal with that much adversity?

[PW]:Honestly, Solas hates people who look at him and just see an elf. He considers that kind of attitude part of the black-and-white dichotomy that has led to so much tragedy in the Dragon Age world. Templars versus mages, demons versus spirits, elves versus humans… it’s more complicated than that. Come to think of it, “It’s more complicated than that,” may actually be Solas’s battle cry.

[Chernaya]

Sorry guys don't mean to derail here but is anyone else having trouble accessing Solas's info on the main site? I can get a little bit of it on the Character section but he's disappeared from the News section : (

They pasted the interview into the Solas thread before it disappeared, so you can read it in there if you'd like.

 

edit: Whoops, beaten to it. ;P

[HuldraDancer]

The interview disappeared.

 

http://www.dragonage...r-profile-solas

 Yeah its just gone now. Shame I was looking forward to reading that

[HuldraDancer]

Here's the interview  Posted from the Solas thread

 

Spoiler

[DRAGON AGE]: What can you tell us about Solas?

 

[PATRICK WEEKES]:He’s pretty straightforward, honestly. Just your average elven apostate who voluntarily joins the Inquisition in the middle of the mage rebellion to lend his expertise with the Fade.

[DA]: “Average,” huh?

[PW]: I like to keep it simple.

[DA]: There’s a lot of ground to cover with Solas, so let’s start with him as an apostate—meaning he practices magic outside the Circle of Magi. Did he escape with the rest of the rebel mages?

[PW]: Actually, he was never in one of the Circles to begin with.

[DA]: Interesting.

[PW]: Thedas is a pretty big place, and unless you go around burninating the peasants, you may never come to the attention of the templars.

[DA]: Without the Circle to provide training, how did he learn to control his power?

[PW]: Solas is largely self-taught; while he can comfortably defend himself, he cares more about exploring the Fade than he does about hurling fireballs.

[DA]: What makes the Fade so interesting?

[PW]: Okay, so, the Fade—bear with me, this gets a little weird—the Fade is the spirit side of the Dragon Age universe. It’s this incredible place full of dreams and memories, imprints left behind by powerful emotions or events in our world. Solas has trained himself to do something a lot like lucid-dreaming. He goes to ancient ruins where the Veil is thin, goes to sleep, and actually experiences the history of places no one else has seen in centuries.

[DA]: Is that sort of vision accurate?

[PW]: Absolutely not. It’s based off people’s memories, right? Ask ten different witnesses at a crime scene to describe what happened, and you’ll get all kinds of conflicting information. Solas knows that everything he sees in the Fade is subjective and imperfect. It’s like a gigantic Wikipedia entry full of “[citation needed]” notes, but still, Solas has found some amazing things.

[DA]: In past games, the Fade has been a dangerous place, full of demons.

[PW]: Yes. Most people in Thedas think of the Fade as demon-land… and Solas believes this is part of the problem. If you go into a realm that by its very naturereflects the thoughts and fears of living people, and if all you’re ever taught in the Chantry is that the Fade is this terrible place that wants to kill or possess you, then when you get there, of course it’s like that.

[DA]: Solas doesn’t fear the Fade?

[PW]: I’d say he respects it. It’s still dangerous, but because Solas found the Fade on his own, he went in without preconceptions, letting him explore the area and befriend spirits without the black-and-white mentality that holds back mages trained in the Circle. While everyone else guards themselves, assuming everything in the Fade is a threat, Solas will find a brilliant unimaginable light, smile delightedly, and move in for a closer look.

[DA]: Does that extensive knowledge aid him in combat?

[PW]: On the battlefield, Solas’s expertise with the Fade lets him manipulate magic in ways that would never occur to most mages.

Off the battlefield, when Solas sees a giant hole open up in the sky with demons pouring out of it, he knows that he can help where Circle mages cannot. As a result, although there is no guarantee they won’t locked him up as just another apostate, Solas comes voluntarily to the Inquisition.

[DA]: Did you find his character challenging to write?

[PW]: Writing Solas had its moments, yes. I personally love characters who are intelligent, characters who don’t necessarily breakthe universe they’re in, but who make players reexamine their own assumptions and look at that world in a new way. It’ll be interesting to see who thinks he’s fascinating and who thinks he’s out of his ever-Fade-loving mind.

[DA]: One would assume that opinions vary among his fellow companions as well.

[PW]:Absolutely. Vivienne is as loyal a Circle mage as you’ll find, so having this scruffy little hedge mage pop in and say, “You’re all close-minded, you should be making friends with spirits,” causes her to get icily disdainful as only Vivienne can. Solas and the Iron Bull also spar over Qunari beliefs, as Solas believes in freedom of thought more than anything else, and the Qunari tend to be pretty rigid there. On the other hand, Solas and Cole get along rather wonderfully.

[DA]: Because Cole is a spirit?

[PW]: Yes; Cole is trying to figure out what that means, and Solas can answer a lot of Cole’s questions. The two of them have fascinating talks about what it means to be a spirit, usually with the rest of the party watching the two with these narrow-eyed “What the what?” looks.

[DA]: In addition to dealing with the world’s perception of mages, he’s also elven. How does he deal with that much adversity?

[PW]:Honestly, Solas hates people who look at him and just see an elf. He considers that kind of attitude part of the black-and-white dichotomy that has led to so much tragedy in the Dragon Age world. Templars versus mages, demons versus spirits, elves versus humans… it’s more complicated than that. Come to think of it, “It’s more complicated than that,” may actually be Solas’s battle cry.

 

THANK YOU!         

[Kirie]

THANK YOU!         

You're welcome!

[Jaulen]

The interview disappeared.

 

http://www.dragonage...r-profile-solas

 

Weird.

 

I wonder why?

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Maybe they actually intended to release them on separate days? That's what they've been doing. But it's a little late now. lol

[Clockwork_Wings]

It might be fun if there are stat bonuses for romances.  Like, "Iron Bull has brought you under his protection.  You take less physical damage."  Or, "Solas has brought you under his protection.  Veil tears are less likely and easier to close."

[Solas]

Maybe they actually intended to release them on separate days? That's what they've been doing. But it's a little late now. lol

Yep, it's already going around tumblr.

[HuldraDancer]

It might be fun if there are stat bonuses for romances.  Like, "Iron Bull has brought you under his protection.  You take less physical damage."  Or, "Solas has brought you under his protection.  Veil tears are less likely and easier to close."

 

Kind of like in DA2 when you got friendship or rivalry high enough? That could be pretty cool though they couldn't be too big since the romances are optional and I could see people easily complaining about only getting a stat from a character if you romance them. But it would still be fun.

[godModeAlpha]

Weird.
 
I wonder why?

Was filled with many typos, maybe

[Clockwork_Wings]

Kind of like in DA2 when you got friendship or rivalry high enough? That could be pretty cool though they couldn't be too big since the romances are optional and I could see people easily complaining about only getting a stat from a character if you romance them. But it would still be fun.

Yeah.  But it's like complaining Sera and Dorian are only available to a certain gender.  That's the rule of the game.

 

There might be a way to balance it, each stat being as power as every other stat.

[mrjack]

Regarding the Solas bio/interview:

There's a blog I check: http://dragonaging.tumblr.com/ which collates all new official information about the game, including dev tweets and art. I find the main site to be a bit of a mess and whoever does that blog, does a nice job of keeping it all clear and in one place.

If anyone's interested.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Honestly, I'd rather they just kept the stat bonuses to having high ratings with characters, generally. I don't really feel like you should get a game mechanics boost for doing romances and I don't really like the implication that romantic relationships are more important than your platonic ones.

[mrjack]

Was filled with many typos, maybe

Maybe it's because Patrick used the word "burninating". For shame, Paddy...

[HuldraDancer]

Yeah.  But it's like complaining Sera and Dorian are only available to a certain gender.  That's the rule of the game.

 

There might be a way to balance it, each stat being as power as every other stat.

As long as the stats are over the top and well balanced it could work out well, I'm not against the idea at all I could just see some people who might be less inclined to do the romances feeling jipped. But a nice little bonus stat would be cool, and it would be nice to think that you're LI might be watching your back slightly more than your other companions.

 

Edit: maybe there could be bonus stats anyway just when you romance a LI their bonus stat changes slightly like a friendship stat is slightly different than a romance one.

[Eveangaline]

Maybe it's because Patrick used the word "burninating". For shame, Paddy...

Oh like we didnt all shriek for joy when honestatrrunner updated a few months ago

[Clockwork_Wings]

Honestly, I'd rather they just kept the stat bonuses to having high ratings with characters, generally. I don't really feel like you should get a game mechanics boost for doing romances and I don't really like the implication that romantic relationships are more important than your platonic ones.

 

 

As long as the stats are over the top and well balanced it could work out well, I'm not against the idea at all I could just see some people who might be less inclined to do the romances feeling jipped. But a nice little bonus stat would be cool, and it would be nice to think that you're LI might be watching your back slightly more than your other companions.

 

Edit: maybe there could be bonus stats anyway just when you romance a LI their bonus stat changes slightly like a friendship stat is slightly different than a romance one.

I was trying to think of ways that the romances could have some sort of payoff without the game being a dating sim.  I'd like to see quests one gets only through romances, or stat bonuses, or something.  Offend the wrong people and assassins start coming after the LI, something.