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[Maria Caliban]

Just... NO UNDERWEAR DRY HUMPING SEQUENCE AGAIN, PLEASE.

This is the romance thread. We respect everyone's fetishes here.

[Jewlie Ghoulie]

Motorboating Varric is my new headcanon ™

[Former_Fiend]

I don't think anyone assumes Dagna returning is a certainty; it's simply fun speculation right now, as is the idea that she may be a love interest for players who might be interested in a dwarven romance with the opposite sex (assuming Varric is available). Regardless of that, she was a fun, intelligent character, and I think it would be cool to see her again.

 

Dagna returning is incredibly likely; her name popped up in screen shots around PAX time. Whether or not she'll physically appear in the game, who knows.

 

Don't know where the idea of her being romanceable comes from aside from wishful thinking.

[Milan92]

 

Don't know where the idea of her being romanceable comes from aside from wishful thinking.

 

Its how every romance rumor starts.

[LobselVith8]

Kitty, to be fair, there is no half elves in Thedas.  Elf-blooded doesn't equal half elf in this world.

 

While it's true that humans and elves fall in love, all children from such pairings are always human according to WoG.  No one is sure why, and the devs have remained silent on that front.   That's part of the reason why the Dalish avoid humans; it isn't just due to their beliefs behind "the quickening."  It's because all children born from an elf and human pairing are human.  A few similarities in features (like with Fenyriel there) isn't the same as a half-elf.

 

There are said to be Dalish who live near the humans of Rivain who follow the Natural Order, outside the city of Llomerryn, so I think the conflicts between the Andrastian humans and the Dalish play the driving role in why the clans keep a distance.

 

As far as interracial relationships go (between humans and elves), I really enjoyed my Surana Warden romancing Morrigan, having a lot in common with her, sharing the same view of the Circle as a restrictive place, thinking magic shouldn't be controlled by the templars, and inevitably having both my protagonist and her change as a result  An elven mage from the Denerim Alienage who grew up to be an atheist Libertarian, and a Witch of the Wilds who found a friend and confidant who was willing to protect her from her mother, and trust her. I also liked romancing Merrill with my apostate Champion, where she finally found someone who believed in her, and was willing to help her in her goal to stop the decline of the Elvhen with the restoration of revolutionary technology that could irrevocably change the lives of the People forever. (Admittedly, I found Merrill's story more interesting than the Champion's).

 

Soris also romanced a human, and was said to have many children with her. Love knows no bounds.

 

That said, I can also understand xmegaplex's preference for wanting to pursue an elven romance this time around with a straight elven Inquisitor. My preference is always to create characters with their own distinct personality, and I can see some obvious issues if one is playing as an elven Inquisitor who wants to be among the People when all is said or done (once the crisis with the veil tears is concluded), or simply wants to have elven children with someone he loves, which is impossible unless the other person is also elven (due to the fantasy rules of fictional Thedas).

 

It's mainly an issue of roleplay, I suppose. The children of humans and elves are always human, and for some characters and runs, I can imagine that would be a line they wouldn't want to cross. Fiona had addressed this to Maric when she showed him their child; there's a character who pretends to be fully human in one of the novels because no one can tell that his mother was elven. Merrill made a reference to this when she spoke with my apostate Champion, and it's a significant sacrifice she made to be with someone she loved (one that I wish that my apostate could have acknowledged in dialogue).

 

Just my two cents on the matter.

[pallascedar]

I don't think anyone assumes Dagna returning is a certainty; it's simply fun speculation right now, as is the idea that she may be a love interest for players who might be interested in a dwarven romance with the opposite sex (assuming Varric is available). Regardless of that, she was a fun, intelligent character, and I think it would be cool to see her again.

 

I get it, and I guess I'm a bit of a negative Nancy. I'm all for speculating about things that might actually happen, but it just gets weird when we pull stuff out of practically mid air. To me, speculating Dagna's romance is roughly equivalent to speculating that Fenris and Merill will show up with their love child. It might be nice to imagine, but it's not happening.

[Former_Fiend]

Well, like I said, the always human children issue is the one part of the equation that I consider to have some merit to it. I don't begrudge elves in universe attaching a stigma to interracial relations because of it. I don't begrudge elves in universe for preferring to stay with other elves over it. And I certainly don't have a problem with anyone who wants to romance an elf as an elf.

 

What I have an issue with is the assertion that elf/human relationships are "wrong", specifically because of the kid thing. 

 

I don't want to be the guy to bring up this debate again as I think it was well settled before it started, but I find this comparable to the arguments regarding Sera and her perceived "responsibility" to contribute to the elven population. While I think that's an inuniverse stance that may well come into play regarding Sera's backstory, I think most of us reasonable fans agree that the idea of Sera being obligated to compromise her sexuality to help repopulate the elves is absurd. 

 

I think that creates a double standard if you say Sera has the right to love whoever she wants, but, for example, Merrill falling inlove with Hawke is "wrong" because he's human. We love who we love; so long as all parties are consenting and capable of that consent, it isn't wrong.

[Freedheart]

(First time poster, please be gentle with me )

I am a very late bloomer when it comes to gaming, and DA:O was my very first RPG.  I had no idea you could even romance anyone until I was doing "Rescue the Queen" and accidentally clicked on Alistair rather than the dungeon door.  All of the sudden he's handing me a rose and telling me he has feelings for me.  I remember thinking "you're telling me this now?"  After two more playthroughs, I had to force myself to play as a male just so I would stop romancing Alistair...sighs.  With just about everyone being bisexual in DA II, it was a lot harder to stop romancing my sweet Fenris...having a freed slave declare "I'm yours" every time I clicked on him was extremely profound...chuckles.  So, I am looking forward to the fact that some LIs are race- and/or gender-gated.  It will force me to play outside of my comfort zone. I'm also torn...as much as I want a peek at The Chart, I also want the thrill of discovery.  One thing I know for sure, whoever and whatever I have to be to enjoy the tickle of Dorian's mustache, that will be my first playthrough

[LobselVith8]

Well, like I said, the always human children issue is the one part of the equation that I consider to have some merit to it. I don't begrudge elves in universe attaching a stigma to interracial relations because of it. I don't begrudge elves in universe for preferring to stay with other elves over it. And I certainly don't have a problem with anyone who wants to romance an elf as an elf.

 

What I have an issue with is the assertion that elf/human relationships are "wrong", specifically because of the kid thing. 

 

I don't think it's wrong. I was quite surprised that this was never directly addressed in Dragon Age II, since that isn't the case for most of the people who actually live in Thedas. When my Champion romanced Merrill, the "controversy" over their relationship (and her moving in) was relegated to an update for her codex entry, as well as Isabela and Varric commenting on the relationship in party banter. I suppose it remains to be seen whether or not it will be directly addressed in Inquisition if the player engages in an interracial romance.

 

I don't want to be the guy to bring up this debate again as I think it was well settled before it started, but I find this comparable to the arguments regarding Sera and her perceived "responsibility" to contribute to the elven population. While I think that's an inuniverse stance that may well come into play regarding Sera's backstory, I think most of us reasonable fans agree that the idea of Sera being obligated to compromise her sexuality to help repopulate the elves is absurd. 

 

That is similar to Veronica in New Vegas, who mentions that the finite population of the Brotherhood of Steel leads to them frowning upon people like her, who are gay. I think the expectation of either character having to compromise their sexuality is absurd.

 

I think that creates a double standard if you say Sera has the right to love whoever she wants, but, for example, Merrill falling inlove with Hawke is "wrong" because he's human. We love who we love; so long as all parties are consenting and capable of that consent, it isn't wrong.

 

The issue of humans and elves having human children is something I've taken into consideration with an elven Inquisitor and the prospect of romance during the narrative, but either way, I don't imagine I'd roleplay as someone who had disdain for interracial relationships. If Sera ended up in a romance with Vivienne, for example, he wouldn't see it as wrong.

[Fizzie Panda]

Tbh I think that only Bi romances will be race-gated because they wanted to make sure gender/sexuality ratios would be the same but not so much about race. Gay and straight are 2 sides of the same coin, they bar off 50% of genders, so whoever is straight has an equal chance of being race-gated as whoever is gay like Sera and Dorian

[Eveangaline]

(First time poster, please be gentle with me )
I am a very late bloomer when it comes to gaming, and DA:O was my very first RPG. I had no idea you could even romance anyone until I was doing "Rescue the Queen" and accidentally clicked on Alistair rather than the dungeon door. All of the sudden he's handing me a rose and telling me he has feelings for me. I remember thinking "you're telling me this now?" After two more playthroughs, I had to force myself to play as a male just so I would stop romancing Alistair...sighs. With just about everyone being bisexual in DA II, it was a lot harder to stop romancing my sweet Fenris...having a freed slave declare "I'm yours" every time I clicked on him was extremely profound...chuckles. So, I am looking forward to the fact that some LIs are race- and/or gender-gated. It will force me to play outside of my comfort zone. I'm also torn...as much as I want a peek at The Chart, I also want the thrill of discovery. One thing I know for sure, whoever and whatever I have to be to enjoy the tickle of Dorian's mustache, that will be my first playthrough

For me it was leliana that I accidentally romance. Goodness all I did was compliment her hair and she was all over me.

But yeah I'm fine with gating when there's a lot of romance options. If it were just four I'd be against it but when you have more, gating seems perfectly fine


As for pulling Dorian's mustache... So far all we know is you gotta be a guy.

[Ninjasplaycardgames2]

Hello everyone, I'm new around these parts and stuff 

[Stakrin]

I saw somewhere that there would be some romances based on race. Maybe Sera wouldn't be into a human? That would be very interesting to see.

Anyway, so far for inquisition, we have confirmation that there will be more Romances than any past dragon age game, and da:2 had 5, so we will get at least 6, and 5 are already confirmed.

Dorian and Sera are both homosexual
(Dorian is getting a lot of spotlight for that actually. Sera didn't really, so I am confused on that. I don't know why it is a big deal though, bioware never did discriminate, so it isn't surprising that some companions will be strictly homosexual)

Cullen and Cassandra are both confirmed but it hasn't been said they are straight gay or bi, but I think they are both straight.

Iron bull was also confirmed on Twitter, I think. Personally I think he is bisexual.

[Chernaya]

Iron bull was also confirmed on Twitter, I think. Personally I think he is bisexual.

Not confirmed, but a possible slip-up on there happened (afterwards she said she couldn't say it was actual confirmation). That along with a few other things makes most of us strongly believe he will be a bisexual LI.

[Former_Fiend]

I'm kind of up in the air about Iron Bull. On one hand I think that it doesn't make much sense from an in-universe standpoint not to make him at least available for a one night stand, given his casual views on sex.

 

On the other hand, Oghren would sleep with anything without an Y chromozone(and that restriction applied only when he was relatively sober), and he wasn't an option.

 

On the other other hand, the implication with Oghren was that our Warden refused to sleep with him because he was a disgusting slob(love Oghren, but he was). Iron Bull may be a drinker and a partier, but he seems to have his sh*t in a general state of together-ness despite that, unlike Oghren, and aside from that possesses a charm and magnetic personality that Oghren lacked. So while it's a pretty safe assumption that no one would want to sleep with Oghren, that's hardly a safe bet with Iron Bull(one that's already been lost, judging by some of the response to him on these forums). 

 

So I'm just going around in circles.

[Raikas]

On the other hand, Oghren would sleep with anything without an X chromozone(and that restriction applied only when he was relatively sober), and he wasn't an option.

 

 

Don't you mean anything without a Y chromosome?  Or was there some hidden content that I missed out on?

[LiaraShepard]

I just hope they'lle finally give us a Qunari romance (after all it's already the third game). And please, let him be available to male and female gamers, so that everyone can experience the Iron Bull. : )

[Former_Fiend]

Don't you mean anything without a Y chromosome?  Or was there some hidden content that I missed out on?

 

Yea, sorry, meant Y. Been about thirty hours without sleep and I've got at least four more to go.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I think the question with Iron Bull is whether his faith in the Qun is waning enough for him to get in an established relationship. Because that's a huge no-no and he's basically accepting that he has to leave the Qun, if he does it. They will send him to a re-education camp, otherwise. Considering he was conceptualized early on as Tal-Vashoth (at least, according to the survey that was accurate about a huge amount of things) it's possible that they always intended him to leave, so there's that.  

[Vapaa]

I think the question with Iron Bull is whether his faith in the Qun is waning enough for him to get in an established relationship. Because that's a huge no-no and he's basically accepting that he has to leave the Qun, if he does it. They will send him to a re-education camp, otherwise. Considering he was conceptualized early on as Tal-Vashoth (at least, according to the survey that was accurate about a huge amount of things) it's possible that they always intended him to leave, so there's that.  

 

I think he would already be a prime candidate for the camp as it stands.

[Former_Fiend]

I think the question with Iron Bull is whether his faith in the Qun is waning enough for him to get in an established relationship. Because that's a huge no-no and he's basically accepting that he has to leave the Qun, if he does it. They will send him to a re-education camp, otherwise. Considering he was conceptualized early on as Tal-Vashoth (at least, according to the survey that was accurate about a huge amount of things) it's possible that they always intended him to leave, so there's that.  

 

If he's playing fast and loose with qun tenets enough to sleep around as much as Weekes and Prinze Jr. have implied(assuming their comments were at least somewhat hyperbolic), then at the very least he's at the point where a romance arc can start for his character because it's easy enough to write an arc that begins with a one night stand/f*ck-buddy situation and develops from there.

[Eveangaline]

I'm kind of up in the air about Iron Bull. On one hand I think that it doesn't make much sense from an in-universe standpoint not to make him at least available for a one night stand, given his casual views on sex.

Someone can greatly enjoy casual sex while single and still be fine with monogamy when in a relationship.

[Former_Fiend]

Someone can greatly enjoy casual sex while single and still be fine with monogamy when in a relationship.

 

Preaching to the choir. 

 

I'm just saying that there's something wrong if they establish his character with lines such as "he'll sleep with anyone he's reasonably sure he won't break"(Weekes) and "I'll have sex with everyone and I'll be on my way"(FPJr), only to not make him an option.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

If he's playing fast and loose with qun tenets enough to sleep around as much as Weekes and Prinze Jr. have implied(assuming their comments were at least somewhat hyperbolic), then at the very least he's at the point where a romance arc can start for his character because it's easy enough to write an arc that begins with a one night stand/f*ck-buddy situation and develops from there.

It could, but I wonder if that's the only way it could go. If they put in a fling, or even "sex whenever you want", with a character, does that need to turn into a relationship?

[Former_Fiend]

It could, but I wonder if that's the only way it could go. If they put in a fling, or even "sex whenever you want", with a character, does that need to turn into a relationship?

 

I don't think it does, and certainly wouldn't be bothered if they put a character like that into the game. I'm just saying if they want to turn Iron Bull into a full on relationship, they've got at least one real easy way of going about it.