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Any speculation and/or hopes for non-Inquisition romances? I'm banking on a fem!elf for the male Dalish players.
I want that, but man, untill i see evidence to the contrary, i believe there will be about 6 romance options, end every single one of them is somewhere on that Last Supper Inquisition image.
Any speculation and/or hopes for non-Inquisition romances? I'm banking on a fem!elf for the male Dalish players.
I'm hoping that there would be a male elf servant who I could romance 
But I don't think that would happen 
I don't even think that there would be any male servants that I could romance
Three things off of the top of my head:
1.) They called them species and not races;
or
2.) They were unable to breed with each other;
or
3.) There was in-game lore that specifically stated that they were not races (i.e., if had been created in the fade or something)
Outside of those kinds of evidence, I tend to take what they say at face value. They call them races and they can interbreed (at least some of them are confirmed and we've no idea on the others either way). Seems to me that it's harder to make them species than it is to accept them as races.
1) From wikipedia
Many fantasy stories and worlds refer to their main sapient humanoid species as races, rather than as species.[19] J. R. R. Tolkien popularized the usage of the term in this context,[citation needed] and the use of races in the Dungeons & Dragons role-playing games further spread the label.[20] Many fantasy settings use the terms race and species interchangeably, such as the World of Warcraft computer game.
2) It is given that elves and humans can procreate (however, that also can be said of various different races in the real world), but the result has no physical traces of an elf. So common explanations of breeding and genetics do not work here.
I have seen no evidence that procreation of dwarfes and qunari works outside of their own race/species.
3) There is enough lore evidence that the elves, dwarfes and humans developed independantly and only met other races/species at a much later time. On the other hand, there is no indication in the lore that one descendet from the other.
Dragon Age is a fantasy world, and not all concepts that we know in the real world apply here. While it may be a squibbling over definitions, I think it's pretty obvious that the distinction between elf, human, dwarf and qunari is far greater than that between humans of caucasian, african and asian origin. Using the term "racist" refers in the real world to discrimination for of the latter. Applying it to somebody who is not comfortable of having sex with a member of another race/species in the DA setting is a very tacky use of the term.
Can we at least all agree that it would be nice if the race/gender combos all got the same amount of options for romance?
Ill drink to that.
It would be nice, but is all but confirmed to not be the case.
.I have seen no evidence that procreation of dwarfes and qunari works outside of their own race/species.
I believe David Gaider once said something to the effect of, "Dwarves are less fertile then humans, so children aren't as much of an issue, but the offspring between a human and dwarf would likely look like a short human or a tall dwarf."
He also said that elf reproduction has as much to do with magic as it does biology.
It does suck that as a str8 male it seems my only option for a Li is Either Casandra or Vivian, and Casandra doesn't really interest me and I already Straight up hate Vivian.
How can you hate a character you know little about?
How can you hate a character you know little about?
We have the interview about Blackwall, Cassandra, Iron Bull, Sera, and Vivienne, so we actually know quite a bit about their general character at this point.
How can you hate a character you know little about?
Respectfully, I learned quite a bit of Cassandra through Dragon Age 2 and find her to be very boring. Vivienne has awful awful priorities, and i find her to be a bit despicable.
I dont know enough about Scribe Lady to have any opinion yet.
It would be nice, but is all but confirmed to not be the case.
Shhhhhh don't crush my hopes just yet, I'd like to live my fantasy land a little while longer thank you 
Also, as has been stated, Lions and Tigers can interbreed, and so could ****** sapiens and neanderthals.
It may be that although we classify them as such there is a certain blurring of the line between being a separate species and just being genetically varied within the same species. These are human classifications of organic systems after all… I don't think I want to start thinking about the possible implications of evolution on Thedas, right now, so let's just move on. Side note: also, I think it's hilarious how ****** sapiens is starred out as a swear word on the forums.
I think David Gaider hinted that this might not be the case.
I would say that it would be fair if every race/gender/orientation had at least a choice. Which means at least two possible romances for everybody.
I still chose to believe that this is a realistic assumption, unless I see evidence of the contrary.
While the DA writers have always stated that romance content is only optional, additional content, they know how important it is for the players and they want their players to have a choice. They structured romance content in DA II exactly for that purpose -- the LIs were playersexual to give everybody at least two options. I don't think they are mean and stupid enough to infuriate the playerbase by taking that choice away.
How can you hate a character you know little about?
I assume for the same reasons so many adore characters they know next to nothing about.
Anyone else musing over the notion that, rather than getting a new party member DLC, it could end up a Romance pack to provide the general archetypes that fans feel are missing?
I think David Gaider hinted that this might not be the case.
I would say that it would be fair if every race/gender/orientation had at least a choice. Which means at least two possible romances for everybody.
I still chose to believe that this is a realistic assumption, unless I see evidence of the contrary.
While the DA writers have always stated that romance content is only optional, additional content, they know how important it is for the players and they want their players to have a choice. They structured romance content in DA II exactly for that purpose -- the LIs were playersexual to give everybody at least two options. I don't think they are mean and stupid enough to infuriate the playerbase by taking that choice away.
I know that might not be a case I'm just trying to be hopeful 
If I got at least two choices for race/gender combos I would be happy I just don't want to get stuck with one or none like how gay wardens only got one option in DAO. At least let a hopeful dwarf player dream
How can you hate a character you know little about?
Who is the arbiter of "enough information to hate"?
If we have enough information to love a character, which several people do, do we not also have enough information to hate that character?
Anyone else musing over the notion that, rather than getting a new party member DLC, it could end up a Romance pack to provide the general archetypes that fans feel are missing?
Ill be honest, I'd probably pay for that. Im not even saying that in the funny, "Ha ha, I like romance options" way.
If they released a DLC that added a substantial amount of well written and interesting romance options (ungated and of multiple races), I would pay for that.
Anyone else musing over the notion that, rather than getting a new party member DLC, it could end up a Romance pack to provide the general archetypes that fans feel are missing?
I think that Bioware could make a hell of a lot of money with romance packs. I am just not sure if they want to go down that path...
I think that Bioware could make a hell of a lot of money with romance packs. I am just not sure if they want to go down that path...
Shhh! Don't give them ideas!
Using the term "racist" refers in the real world to discrimination for of the latter. Applying it to somebody who is not comfortable of having sex with a member of another race/species in the DA setting is a very tacky use of the term.
Since you clearly didn't read my numerous posts where I specifically said I would not use the term "racist" in this context, it's clear to me that it's time to drop this conversation altogether before it gets out of hand.
It was certainly an enjoyable debate while it lasted though.
I think that Bioware could make a hell of a lot of money with romance packs. I am just not sure if they want to go down that path...
Shhh! Don't give them ideas!
You laugh, but the best selling DLC they ever made was the Mass Effect Citadel DLC that added the "Going out on a Date with your LI" missions people had been asking for for years.
Grant it, there was a bit more going on then just that, but still, it added more Romance content. I dont think Bioware fully understands how popular that stuff is.
Since you clearly didn't read my numerous posts where I specifically said I would not use the term "racist" in this context, it's clear to me that it's time to drop this conversation altogether before it gets out of hand.
It was certainly an enjoyable debate while it lasted though.
Indeed. We've moved on to romance dlc packs now it seems.
Since you clearly didn't read my numerous posts where I specifically said I would not use the term "racist" in this context, it's clear to me that it's time to drop this conversation altogether before it gets out of hand.
Other people did use that term. I refered to those people.
I did not mean to address you explicitly by critisizing the term, but address those that used it, even if I quoted your post. I am sorry I did not make that clear.
Other than that: I agree, let us drop this topic.
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