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[Former_Fiend]

Also, we don't know how the races see one another.  The dwarves may see the qunari as being so disgustingly huge to the point of uncanny valley, and the qunari may see the other races as neotonous.  If that were the case, Iron Bull, Blackwall, and Cassandra might be open to qunari romances, being brawnier because warrior.

 

Granted, the sincerity of the source is...dubious, but if you hire a female dwarven prostitute at the Pearl in Origins, she'll some times, rather appreciatively say "I see you have some qunari traits..."

[Clockwork_Wings]

Eh, mixed feelings on the matter. On the one hand, urge to roleplay that particular culture. On the other hand, dat blood writing...

I hope we're at least two different elves.  Or at least the same elf with two different backstories.  I'd hear the Dalish mage was a keeper, and I don't think non-mages can be keeper...unless there's too few of them, which is possible.

 

But I digress.

 

Sometimes romances are less about defining my companions and more about defining myself.  I've had wardens who thought they could change Morrigan for the better, some that didn't trust her as far as they could throw her, some that welcomed the danger (the "storm" analogy he can give Alistair), some that found Alistair's jokes endearing, some that wanted to be the mistress of the king of Fereldan, some that saw Zevran as being the ultimate bad boy (the kind you don't bring home to mother), but married Alistair for ambition (keeping Zev on the side, of course).

 

There's a lot of reasons a PC might romance the one they do.

[Clockwork_Wings]

Granted, the sincerity of the source is...dubious, but if you hire a female dwarven prostitute at the Pearl in Origins, she'll some times, rather appreciatively say "I see you have some qunari traits..."

To reference Hagrid, you get oddballs in every breed.

 

I still see it as mostly an NPC issue, something I'd like elaborated on through supporting cast.  With my companions, whom I shed blood with, I'd like to think they can see past my height/capacity to grow horns or facial hair.

[TheodoricFriede]

Granted, the sincerity of the source is...dubious, but if you hire a female dwarven prostitute at the Pearl in Origins, she'll some times, rather appreciatively say "I see you have some qunari traits..."

Not to mention there are several instances of people from other races finding each other attractive.

 

Oghrin enjoys human women, Merrill likes qunari, Morrigan likes qunari, Zeveran likes everyone and everything, Isabella likes everyone except Qunari, end even then its more a grudge.

 

Theres no accounting for taste after all. I believe several people in this thread, myself included, are proof of that.

[Kimarous]

Are we so sure the Dalish mage will be a Keeper? For all we know, it might be someone of Merrill's status - the Keeper's apprentice. Heck, maybe you're neither and you just happen to be an elf of magic talent who hasn't been given a position of power (yet).

[Bipster]

I have a question: On the first playthrough who are you going to romance first?

 

On my fist playthrough I'm hoping to have my male elf mage either get with Iron Bull, Varric or Blackwall. If none of them are available for him then I'd be totally fine w/ Dorian or Cullen though.

 

Second Playthrough: Female Qunari archer rogue, could end up w/ any of the ladies. Probably Scribbles or Sera.

[Clockwork_Wings]

Not to mention there are several instances of people from other races finding each other attractive.

 

Oghrin enjoys human women, Merrill likes qunari, Morrigan likes qunari, Zeveran likes everyone and everything, Isabella likes everyone except Qunari, end even then its more a grudge.

 

Theres no accounting for taste after all. I believe several people in this thread, myself included, are proof of that.

I myself find romancing my saarabas to the Iron Bull to be like having to scoops of vanilla ice cream when I could have one scoop vanilla and one chocolate.  It might be whole bean vanilla, but what if it's super chocolate fudge?

[TheodoricFriede]

I myself find romancing my saarabas to the Iron Bull to be like having to scoops of vanilla ice cream when I could have one scoop vanilla and one chocolate.  It might be whole bean vanilla, but what if it's super chocolate fudge?

I...

 

I think...i agree with you?

[schall_und_rauch]

Oghren likes everything with breasts, right? 

I doubt this'll happen, but I would love to hear him making passes at a female qunari.

[Maria Caliban]

I myself find romancing my saarabas to the Iron Bull to be like having to scoops of vanilla ice cream when I could have one scoop vanilla and one chocolate.  It might be whole bean vanilla, but what if it's super chocolate fudge?

If I understand this correctly, he's saying he wants to romance a high dragon.

My translator might be a bit off but that's the general idea.

Oghren likes everything with breasts, right?
I doubt this'll happen, but I would love to hear him making passes at a female qunari.

"Want to play itty, bitty dwarven explorer lost in the cavernous deep roads?"

[TheodoricFriede]

If I understand this correctly, he's saying he wants to romance a high dragon.

My translator might be a bit off but that's the general idea.

Oh! Ok, in that case, yes, i agree!

[Clockwork_Wings]

I tend to pick my romances based on what I think tells the most interesting story, or what I think I'll hear about the previous PC the most.  Leliana and Zevran are rogues.  People expect them to have active social lives.  The most important hero in Fereldan fathering the apocalypse or marrying the ruling monarch or being the king's mistress pr marrying the king but keeping an elven assassin on the side?  That has story potential.

 

And I realize Hawke and their cousin didn't have much of a relationship, but if I'd just heard my cousin slew something called an "archedemon," is bedding the king, and set the mages free, I'd have some questions for Anders.  Or maybe those questions were asked an answered when Varric wasn't around.

[schall_und_rauch]

Leliana and Zevran are rogues.  People expect them to have active social lives. 

 

I love that euphemism.

"I am Isabella. I call myself a duelist, which is a specialised version of a rogue."

"Oh, so you must have an active social life. So if we get a little social with the other socialites I brought, maybe you could teach me. How to be a duelist, I mean. Not the social thing."

[wildannie]

Of those whose LI status and orientation has not been confirmed, the below list outlines my thoughts.  I think I may be being optimistic on the numbers though.

 

If this was to be the case, my first playthrough would be with a female elven PC (mage or rogue) who would romance Solas.  I prefer to keep elves together, they are so oppressed by humans that I think it fits best,  but if that's not an option it will probably be Cullen.

 

Varric - available to dwarven PCs only (possibly only female) - Dwarven PCs will also be able to romance other races.

 

Dorian - avaiable to male PCs only - I'd be very surprised if they chose to make both elven characters gay.

 

The Iron Bull - available to Qunari PCs for romance and possibly other races for roll in the hay.  May also be romanceable for humans and elves but I would be very surprised if he was available to dwarves.

 

Cullen - Available to female PCs only - there's been no indication that he is bi in previous games, although they could ignore that.

 

Solas - Male and Female PCs (or maybe not romanceable at all)

 

Blackwall -  I don't think he will be a romance option at all,  from his description he is a very committed Grey Warden and I think that would be at odds with him becoming involved with anyone.

 

For the three remaining, Cassandra, Vivienne and Scribbles,  I just don't know, any one of them could be bi, but I  don't have any reason to think one would be more than the other.  If any of them are to be unromanceable I'd guess at Vivienne, as she seems to have an agenda, and getting involved might be at odds with that.

[HuldraDancer]

The Iron Bull - available to Qunari PCs for romance and possibly other races for roll in the hay.  May also be romanceable for humans and elves but I would be very surprised if he was available to dwarves.

 

I gotta ask aside from the height difference why do most people think that Iron Bull would be cut off from dwarves but not elves? How is an elf more sturdy than a dwarf? Most elves are archers and thin framed and in DA2 they looked like they had bird bones (to me they did anyway with how thin and wispy they looked) while dwarves are stout and fight eachother and darkspawn (at least the ones that live underground fight darkspawn) on a regular basis heck the nobles hold provings to see who is the strongest house that will gain the ancestors favor. If there's something here I'm not seeing please fill me in cause I just do not get how a lot of people would think Iron Bull would break a dwarf but not an elf. 

[PrayingMantis]

I gotta ask aside from the height difference why do most people think that Iron Bull would be cut off from dwarves but not elves? How is an elf more sturdy than a dwarf? Most elves are archers and thin framed and in DA2 they looked like they had bird bones (to me they did anyway with how thin and wispy they looked) while dwarves are stout and fight eachother and darkspawn (at least the ones that live underground fight darkspawn) on a regular basis heck the nobles hold provings to see who is the strongest house that will gain the ancestors favor. If there's something here I'm not seeing please fill me in cause I just do not get how a lot of people would think Iron Bull would break a dwarf but not an elf. 

 

 I think it's just because of the difficulties of animating a dwarf with a qunari together. There are certain problematics that seem to occur with models who have too much of a size difference.

[Maria Caliban]

I gotta ask aside from the height difference why do most people think that Iron Bull would be cut off from dwarves but not elves?

In DA:O, 15% of players picked an elven PC and 5% picked a dwarven PC.

If resources are an issue, people assume that humans will get first priority, then elves, and then (way at the bottom) dwarves.

[Finnn62]

In DA:O, 15% of players picked an elven PC and 5% picked a dwarven PC.

If resources are an issue, people assume that humans will get first priority, then elves, and then (way at the bottom) dwarves.

 

  but I like dwarves 

[TheodoricFriede]

 How is an elf more sturdy than a dwarf?

I know i keep saying this, but you have to remember that it has nothing to do with fragility of any race.

 

The size difference between qunari and Human or qunari and elf doesnt even come close to the size difference between qunari and Dwarf.

 

I'd say that the difference between elf and qunari isnt even as big as elf and Dwarf.

 

This is 110% an issue of the animations being harder.

[daveliam]

 I think it's just because of the difficulties of animating a dwarf with a qunari together. There are certain problematics that seem to occur with models who have too much of a size difference.

 

Yeah, the animation is really the only way that it makes sense for an elf and not a dwarf.  Of course, if he makes his decisions based on who "won't break" in bed, then elves should be out too because they are, for the most part, the most "fragile" of the races.  Dwarves are actually known for being sturdy.  It's one of their primary characteristics. 

 

We might be over thinking the IB comment though.  He might not be race-gated at all and it could have just been a way to demonstrate that he's hedonistic and enthusiastic (both of which I approve of).

[Hellion Rex]

I am interrupting this romance discussion to insert some very important fanart

 

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Carry on.

[TheodoricFriede]

In DA:O, 15% of players picked an elven PC and 5% picked a dwarven PC.

If resources are an issue, people assume that humans will get first priority, then elves, and then (way at the bottom) dwarves.

You know, i have to wonder.

 

The Hobbit movies have come out since DA:O, as well as Game of Thrones Tyrion. (Which is a different deal of course)

 

Will Dwarves be more popular now?

[HuldraDancer]

 I think it's just because of the difficulties of animating a dwarf with a qunari together. There are certain problematics that seem to occur with models who have too much of a size difference.

 

I can understand that but according to his information he'll get into bed with anyone he's sure he won't break and it would make more sense then if Iron Bull was qunari and human LI only then (again assuming he's an LI at all) I do get the animation thing but it should still match up with the information they released about him unless they do a rewrite on him or something. (also they could solve a lot of problems by not putting in a sex scene I don't need to see them about to have sex I just want a well written romance but this is just what I want for all I know most people that care about the romance want a sex like scene *shrugs*)

 

In DA:O, 15% of players picked an elven PC and 5% picked a dwarven PC.

If resources are an issue, people assume that humans will get first priority, then elves, and then (way at the bottom) dwarves.

 

Not fair 

 

but its not too much to ask that the information they release on companions actually match up to them in the game is it? Unless this is an early draft and they plan on rewriting him but that seems unlikely to me.

[Hellion Rex]

Also, did y'all see this!

http://frednought.tumblr.com/

[daveliam]

In DA:O, 15% of players picked an elven PC and 5% picked a dwarven PC.

If resources are an issue, people assume that humans will get first priority, then elves, and then (way at the bottom) dwarves.

 

This is kind of a crappy way to go about doing it though.  I thought that they were making story-driven decisions based on the story and not to appease groups of players?  I understand that they want to get bang for their buck, but then don't include options if you aren't going to provide all of those options with a somewhat comparable experience.  And I'm firmly a dwarf player (I think the last human I finished DA: O with was about 4 years ago and I've never even played an elf past Ostagar).