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[Ryzaki]

Am I the only person in the DA fandom who didn't like Zevran, at all? :v

 

Nope I didn't like him either.
 

[Vapaa]

Sera be an female only LI for no apparent reason other then to not have her be a LI for male elves

 

[Former_Fiend]

I'm still mad we didn't get a "Warden, Sten, Zevran and Dog have wacky adventures in Seheron" DLC.

[UmbraMage82]

Have you considered that an elf and human could find love together and then adopt an elven child? It's not like there's a shortage of elven orphans.

I don't know about you but I think it's kind of sad if you can't have a child with the woman you love. Yes I know there are situations like that in the world, but... It's not a situation I would want to get caught in. But you are right about there being plenty of elven orphans thanks to humanity. My male elf just doesn't find human women attractive and would rather be with the People.

Speaking of sad things, it's sad when Cammen gets more elvhen love then a male elf protagonist.

[Former_Fiend]

I don't know about you but I think it's kind of sad if you can't have a child with the woman you love. Yes I know there are situations like that in the world, but... It's not a situation I would want to get caught in. But you are right about there being plenty of elven orphans that's to humanity. My male elf just doesn't find human women attractive and would rather be with the People.

Speaking of sad things, it's sad when Cammen gets more elvhen love then a male elf protagonist.

 

The only thing stopping you from having a child in this scenario is your inability to see passed the kid's round ears.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Wasn't there only a tiny amount of people that played dwarf in Origins? Maybe if more people play dwarf this time, things will look up. 

 

Although, I'll be honest, there's no way I would romance a dwarf guy. It just does nothing for me. 

[Former_Fiend]

Personally were dwarven females an option(which I support %100), I'd probably romance one with a human character, so the percentages of people who played dwarves doesn't factor into it at all as far as I'm concerned.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I can see that, but I also imagine they do base the general interest in dwarves somewhat off statistics of PC dwarves. 

[Former_Fiend]

Bah, to hell with the statistics. 

[UmbraMage82]

The only thing stopping you from having a child in this scenario is your inability to see passed the kid's round ears.

There are more humans than elves and the last thing they need is for elves to birth more humans and support their own extinction. Every elven life counts. Humans don't have that problem but elves do.

[Former_Fiend]

That's cool. But when it comes to RPGs, people like having a wide pallete to play with. Just for the sake of it, if anything. It's fun to magine various ways to envision the story of your character. It's never fun if you settle on something, but then get told "Oh, no.. no.. you can only do it this or this way." 

 

Of course, it's impossible to give limitless options. Or even many options. But the attempt would be appreciated.

 

I think we're having a misunderstanding(possibly on multiple levels) here.

 

Mortem's argument as I understood it is that they won't bother including dwarven LI's because only around 5% of people played dwarves in DAO. My counter was meant to demonstrate that just because one doesn't play a dwarf doesn't mean one wouldn't be interested in a dwarven LI.

 

I actually don't have a problem with dwarf/dwarf elf/elf relationships. Just as there's nothing wrong with people finding love outside their race, there's nothing wrong with people finding love in it; they find it where they find it, or it finds them. I just take issue with xmegaplex's stance of elves having a responsibility to maintain the purity of their race or however he likes to justify it.

 

 

There are more humans than elves and the last thing they need is for elves to birth more humans and support their own extinction. Every elven life counts. Humans don't have that problem but elves do.

 

Yeah, we all know them humans, breeding like cockroaches. 

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I kind of feel like maybe an interspecies relationship isn't the best thing if you do have the kind of attitude that people of your own race are more valuable than people of your partner's race. It just seems like the whole relationship is based in a fairly unhealthy place. I think if you really loved the person, you wouldn't see race. But that's just me. 

[pallascedar]

All this talk about race-matching LIs: I just don't think that the DA team ever writes an LI because they think "Oh, players want to romance elves. Let's write elven love interests." They write elven characters, and those characters end up being love interests because it works for that character. The games will always be a majority human in cast, and thus we'll always have a majority human love interests, and almost always there will end up being a player who can't romance their favorite race (at this point, we'd have to have 8 bisexual love interests.)

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Mortem's argument as I understood it is that they won't bother including dwarven LI's because only around 5% of people played dwarves in DAO. My counter was meant to demonstrate that just because one doesn't play a dwarf doesn't mean one wouldn't be interested in a dwarven LI.

Well, it's a bit more hardline stance than I was taking. Haha. I think that there's probably a bigger chance that dwarves will feature more if people play dwarves more this time, since elves were the more played "other" race of the two and elves have gotten way more focus since. People are pretty vocal about wanting it to happen on the internet, though, so they know there's a demand out there.   

[Former_Fiend]

I kind of feel like maybe an interspecies relationship isn't the best thing if you do have the kind of attitude that people of your own race are more valuable than people of your partner's race. It just seems like the whole relationship is based in a fairly unhealthy place. I think if you really loved the person, you wouldn't see race. But that's just me. 

 

To me, and I could well be misunderstanding xmegaplex on this issue, but to me the bigger problem isn't just that he doesn't view the human in this scenario as an individual person but rather as a human first and whatever else they are second, but that he also seems to view the elf in the scenario in the same light. They're an elf; their own will and desire doesn't seem to enter into it; they're an elf so they should be with another elf. 

[pallascedar]

That's a sad thing if there will always be human heavy casts. This world has more potential, I think. Not necessarily this story, but I hope this isn't always the case.

Eh, it always will be. DA games are written for humans, by humans and Thedas is a setting dominated by humans. 

[UmbraMage82]

I actually don't have a problem with dwarf/dwarf elf/elf relationships. Just as there's nothing wrong with people finding love outside their race, there's nothing wrong with people finding love in it; they find it where they find it, or it finds them. I just take issue with xmegaplex's stance of elves having a responsibility to maintain the purity of their race or however he likes to justify it.



Yeah, we all know them humans, breeding like cockroaches.

Finally we agree on something!

Onto your first replay, love comes in many shapes and forms which is why you should think of the consequence of it. To you, your partner and those around you. I do believe that elves should help preserved their race considering the dire state it's in.