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[Nocte ad Mortem]

I wonder if elves would ever consider a surrogate type situation.   

[Deviija]

I'm hedging a bet that we'll see an increase in number of DwarfPCs/people who play dorfs with Inquisition.  Interest in playing dwarven PCs continues to grow over the years, from what I've seen, mostly due to various fandoms.  

[Former_Fiend]

Finally we agree on something!

Onto your first replay, love comes in many shapes and forms which is why you should think of the consequence of it. To you, your partner and those around you. I do believe that elves should help preserved their race considering the dire state it's in.

 

The only people love concerns are the people in love. Socio-politics shouldn't enter into the equation. 

[Former_Fiend]

I wonder if male elves could ever a romance with a female elf without any of these controversial angles brought up (breeding and such).That it could simply be an option. Just like humans have options.

 

Like I said, I don't have the problem with the option being there. In fact, I want the option to be there. If everything were up to me and I had a few million dollars to pump into a DA game's budget, there'd be at least two romance options of every race and gender(with all of them being bisexual for maximum options). 

 

But I'd like a male elf and a female elf to be with each other simply because they love each other, not because they feel some responsibility to pop out pointy eared children. 

[Deviija]

 

I wonder if elves would ever consider a surrogate type situation.   

 

Like an interracial elf + whomever couple adopting an elven child?  Or two lesbian Dalish agreeing to have children together but with doners/two gay Dalish men adopting?   Or something else?  

[pallascedar]

Only the last one makes any sense to me. It is a setting dominated by humans, true.

 

The other reasons are silly. So much fantasy is written by humans for humans. edit: Err.. All fantasy is in fact

 

And it's why a majority of RPGs have a mostly human cast .

[Nocte ad Mortem]

 

Like an interracial elf + whomever couple adopting an elven child?  Or two lesbian Dalish agreeing to have children together but with doners/two gay Dalish men adopting?   Or something else?  

 

Well, in any situation where two elves found themselves in a mutual situation where they felt a responsibility to reproduce, but their own partner couldn't. Sterility, same sex couples, interracial couples. Or, alternatively, if they just didn't have/want a partner, or someone that wanted to fulfill the responsibility of reproduction, but that maybe didn't want to raise children. There are several situations where it could be beneficial to both parties.      

[UmbraMage82]

But I'd like a male elf and a female elf to be with each other simply because they love each other, not because they feel some responsibility to pop out pointy eared children.

Helping the Elvhenan is a big deal, but of course love has to being a huge factor in why someone want to be with a certain person. I don't want you to think that want some lifeless breeding program. A relationship relies of both partners cooperation and what they can provide for each other. Elf/human relationships can not offer much outside of pleasure. Humans don't even try to understand elves and their ways and see themselves as superior when they are clearly inferior as Shale would say.

[Deviija]

Well, in any situation where two elves found themselves in a mutual situation where they felt a responsibility to reproduce, but their own partner couldn't. Sterility, same sex couples, interracial couples. Or, alternatively, if they just didn't have/want a partner, or someone that wanted to fulfill the responsibility of reproduction, but that maybe didn't want to raise children. There are several situations where it could be beneficial to both parties.      

 

Right, just making sure this was the avenue you were speaking about.  I think they'd generally be very supportive of surrogacy/adoption/rearing children of others as long as the bottom line equates to more elven children brought into the world, and more willing people there to raise them.  

 

Another intriguing combination to wonder about is, say, combination siblings of mixed race children along with elven children by a couple.  Be that a couple adopts an elven child and a human child, or an elven couple had an elven child and then one parent passed away and the remaining parent married a human partner and had a child, etc. How might that family be recognized and so on.  

[Mistic]

Helping the Elvhenan is a big deal, but of course love has to being a huge factor in why someone want to be with a certain person. I don't want you to think that want some lifeless breeding program. A relationship relies of both partners cooperation and what they can provide for each other. Elf/human relationships can not offer much outside of pleasure. Humans don't even try to understand elves and their ways and see themselves as superior when they are clearly inferior.

 

That's... so much generalization. There are many kinds of humans in the setting. The player character included. I mean, a possible relationship between Hawke and Merrill in DA2 was only about sex? (Hey, he/she at least provided a luxurious home, money and servants, not just pleasure ). Elven Wardens and Elven Inquisitors can only find love among their race?

 

And why are elves always brought up? I'll be more worried about dwarves. Elven population in Thedas is far superior to dwarven population, and they have a lesser risk of inbreeding, something I'd be worried about in closed cities such as Orzammar and Kal Sharok.

[Maria Caliban]

When you say a story centered around elves and dwarves, do you just mean those issues or the PC having to be a non-human? Because the second is not going to happen.

[karushna5]

I think I've already shared my opinion on elven romance but Streetmagic hit the nail on the head.

Too many damn humans.

Elf/human has been done too many times. I could never force my Tabris or Mahariel to be involved with shemlins and I definitely can't for my male elf inquisitor. I won't be so frustrated with have Sera be an female only LI for no apparent reason other then to not have her be a LI for male elves if there were more female elf options.
Ugh I pray to the Creators that bioware gives us a female elf LI.

i dont think that is the reason. They have done a whole lot of Bisexual elves, so they wanted to avoid that this time around with set sexualities. Sera is a Lesbian this time. They dont make sexualities to spite people that is bad business. Maybe next game, there will be a female elf romance who is just straight. But first set sexuality companions and this time it is Sera, better luck next time?

[Former_Fiend]

Helping the Elvhenan is a big deal, but of course love has to being a huge factor in why someone want to be with a certain person. I don't want you to think that want some lifeless breeding program. A relationship relies of both partners cooperation and what they can provide for each other. Elf/human relationships can not offer much outside of pleasure. Humans don't even try to understand elves and their ways and see themselves as superior when they are clearly inferior.

 

Sten said it best; people aren't simple. 

 

Humans aren't a homogeneous, monolithic mass to all be painted with the same brush, nor are elves. By painting them as such and considering them inferior, you're only worsening the problem, widening the gap, and making any form of mutual understanding more difficult to achieve. 

[wright1978]

i dont think that is the reason. They have done a whole lot of Bisexual elves, so they wanted to avoid that this time around with set sexualities. Sera is a Lesbian this time. They dont make sexualities to spite people that is bad business. Maybe next game, there will be a female elf romance who is just straight. But first set sexuality companions and this time it is Sera, better luck next time?

 

Also if you are going to have a very uneven split between human and non-human i'd prefer they made them bi personally.

Personally i hope DAI is the last set sexuality approach and they revert to the more open accessible system.

[Xilizhra]

Also if you are going to have a very uneven split between human and non-human i'd prefer they made them bi personally.

Personally i hope DAI is the last set sexuality approach and they revert to the more open accessible system.

Question: if Cullen is straight, which I'm pretty sure he is (unlike Kaidan and Anders, he never states his attraction to a female Warden but is simply unable to hide it; there's no logical reason for him being enormously better at hiding his attraction to a male Warden despite the fact that he wouldn't want to show it off for either one), what should be done with Scribbles?

[The Elder King]

Question: if Cullen is straight, which I'm pretty sure he is (unlike Kaidan and Anders, he never states his attraction to a female Warden but is simply unable to hide it; there's no logical reason for him being enormously better at hiding his attraction to a male Warden despite the fact that he wouldn't want to show it off for either one), what should be done with Scribbles?

I haven't done Kaidan's romance, but did he ever say he was attracted to Shepard from ME?

[Xilizhra]

I haven't done Kaidan's romance, but did he ever say he was attracted to Shepard from ME?

I haven't done it either, but I think he was.

[In Exile]

Finally we agree on something!

Onto your first replay, love comes in many shapes and forms which is why you should think of the consequence of it. To you, your partner and those around you. I do believe that elves should help preserved their race considering the dire state it's in.

 

I'm going to start from the premise that this is an RP thing, as opposed to something you actually believe (I can only hope). That aside, it's a horrid belief. Notwithstanding its sheer racism (being something akin to what one would find on stormfront), the idea that groups of people have some kind of obligation to surrender their moral desires and life goals to breed to so that some arbitrary subdvision of life should keep existing is pretty offensive to the idea of individual liberty. 

 

Helping the Elvhenan is a big deal, but of course love has to being a huge factor in why someone want to be with a certain person. I don't want you to think that want some lifeless breeding program. A relationship relies of both partners cooperation and what they can provide for each other. Elf/human relationships can not offer much outside of pleasure. Humans don't even try to understand elves and their ways and see themselves as superior when they are clearly inferior.

 

Well, that's just a weirdly racist belief. Whatever humans as a group believe has nothing to do with what an individual human can believe. 

[Knight of Dane]

I don't remember that from when I did it. Mostly the romance seemed to go like "Hey Sheploo, we've known each other for some time so I think we should hook up now" I don't recall anything about former attraction.

 

But I've only done Gaylenko romance once.

[wright1978]

Question: if Cullen is straight, which I'm pretty sure he is (unlike Kaidan and Anders, he never states his attraction to a female Warden but is simply unable to hide it; there's no logical reason for him being enormously better at hiding his attraction to a male Warden despite the fact that he wouldn't want to show it off for either one), what should be done with Scribbles?

 

I'm still very much of view that NPC LI should be bi, so everyone gets to share their restrictedness equally. So no matter what imo if scribbles is a LI she should be bi.