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#8501
Xilizhra

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I'm still very much of view that NPC LI should be bi, so everyone gets to share their restrictedness equally. So no matter what imo if scribbles is a LI she should be bi.

But if Cullen was still straight, would that not make the male romances somehow unbalanced over the female ones?



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I think both Cullen and Scribbles  - assuming she's a romance, and I think she is - should have the same sexuality. I'm perfectly happy for them to both be straight or both be bisexual.

 

If both the gay LIs were NPCs again as in ME3, that would bother me, but I would be fine if the straight ones were. If straight PCs really want to romance a companion instead of an NPC they'd still have the bisexuals, and equality for straight people isn't the same kind of issue.


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#8503
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But if Cullen was still straight, would that not make the male romances somehow unbalanced over the female ones?

 

As i said he should be bi. Making her straight would just disadvantage all straight players over same sex players.


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Well, my theory by just looking at the companions is that Cassandra and Cullen will be like Ashley and Caiden in Mass Effect. Most likely you`ll end up starting with both at your sides, and presumably Leliana as a part timer. So with that in mind I think both Cassandra and Cullen will be straight.



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I think both Cullen and Scribbles  - assuming she's a romance, and I think she is - should have the same sexuality. I'm perfectly happy for them to both be straight or both be bisexual.

 

If both the gay LIs were NPCs again as in ME3, that would bother me, but I would be fine if the straight ones were. If straight PCs really want to romance a companion instead of an NPC they'd still have the bisexuals, and equality for straight people isn't the same kind of issue.

 

Pretty staggered at the view that straight shouldn't have any right to equality. As a straight player i'd be very bothered if they systemically and deliberately disadavantaged all straight players as part of a move away from a DA2 that provided equality.


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Pretty staggered at the view that straight shouldn't have any right to equality. As a straight player i'd be very bothered if they systemically and deliberately disadavantaged all straight players as part of a move away from a DA2 that provided equality.

You assume the advisers would actually be inferior, again.



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Pretty staggered at the view that straight shouldn't have any right to equality. As a straight player i'd be very bothered if they systemically and deliberately disadavantaged all straight players as part of a move away from a DA2 that provided equality.

 

I'm straight too. Straight people do not suffer systematic discrimination in real life and video games (like all media) are stuffed full of straight romances. It's not the same situation.


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You assume the advisers would actually be inferior, again.

 

They will be at the very least in terms of functionality and likely in a much larger sense imo. Foisting them both on straight orientations would be disgraceful imo.



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Real life and other games are irrelevant. I don't even play 99% of the games out there.



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I'm straight too. Straight people do not suffer systematic discrimination in real life and video games (like all media) are stuffed full of straight romances. It's not the same situation.

 

Sorry my view is that the way to address discrimination is not to discriminate against others.



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Sorry my view is that the way to address discrimination is not to discriminate against others.

I don't think it's a matter of discrimination; there appears to be no evidence whatsoever that Cullen might be bi, judging from what we knew of his character before. With him being selected to be an adviser, which seems inevitable given redundancy issues with Cassandra had he been in the party, it would lead wholly naturally to a straight adviser romance.



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I don't know what that solves. If there's a problem with the industry's marketing (and there is), then take it up with them. Why direct measures towards other consumers? No one will get the message that way. It's just petty. While the actual people at fault go along their merry way.



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I don't think it's a matter of discrimination; there appears to be no evidence whatsoever that Cullen might be bi, judging from what we knew of his character before. With him being selected to be an adviser, which seems inevitable given redundancy issues with Cassandra had he been in the party, it would lead wholly naturally to a straight adviser romance.

 

Of course its discrimination if you systematically and deliberately make both NPC romances straight.



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Of course its discrimination if you systematically and deliberately make both NPC romances straight.

But it's not; it's using a straight character as an NPC romance due to fan demand and not having a place to put him in the party.



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Of course its discrimination if you systematically and deliberately make both NPC romances straight.

 

Not really. Patterns exist without malicious intent all the time. Projecting a rational onto a pattern to perceive a motivation is just confirmation bias at work.



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Not really. Patterns exist without malicious intent all the time. Projecting a rational onto a pattern to perceive a motivation is just confirmation bias at work.

 Sorry don't believe in that sort of coincidence.



#8517
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 Sorry don't believe in that sort of coincidence.

Why would you consider Bioware to have a vendetta against straight people, when most of the developers appear to be straight themselves?


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#8518
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Lately it just seems like "Straight VS Gay" on the forums regarding romance ( and I mean a lot of the times romance is brought up in any forum) in the sense of who got things better. It makes me sad.

I understand people's disappointment over not being able to romance a character they want, but it's not like bioware is intentionally . They just have characters who fall under a sexuality. That's all, not because they're pandering to homosexuals or heterosexuals.

This is just my opinion.
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Not really. Patterns exist without malicious intent all the time. Projecting a rational onto a pattern to perceive a motivation is just confirmation bias at work.

 

I wouldn't even say it's malicious. Could even be well meaning. But guilt based.



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I don't see any difference between Advisor Li's and companion LI's, so I honestly don't care which are bisexual and which are straight. 


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I don't see any difference between Advisor Li's and companion LI's, so I honestly don't care which are bisexual and which are straight. 

 

It's a huge difference, especially in a setting like this. This is the biggest world they've made. People like dragging along their favorite characters in these big worlds. Not just talking to them in a room.


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Why would you consider Bioware to have a vendetta against straight people, when most of the developers appear to be straight themselves?

 

Because i don't believe in the sort of almighty coincidence that would have to exist for that split to occur randomly other than by deliberate manipulation.



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Because i don't believe in the sort of almighty coincidence that would have to exist for that split to occur randomly other than by deliberate manipulation.

I already explained the circumstances that would put Cullen in that position, and that has nothing to do with a vendetta. Why do you doubt it?



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It's a huge difference, especially in a setting like this. This is the biggest world they've made. People like dragging along their favorite characters in these big worlds. Not just talking to them in a room.

 

You're assuming that the avisors spend all game standing in a single room. 

 

And what does this have to do with the romance paths, anyway? All of the romance content in Dragon Age 2 involved standing and talking in a room. Occasionally lying down and talking in said room. 



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I don't think the writers will choose a sexual orientation based on their status (companion/advisor) in the game. I think they write them simply as a character, their preference included. If that character is bi, they will be bi. If they are straight, they will be straight. If they are gay, they will be gay. To make more sense, I mean I don't think they decide what they will be just because they are/n't a companion and or to fill a slot. c: 


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