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Did he? In the Cullen advisor thread he said he can't say if we can or can't because it'll be spoiler.Allan mentioned that you had to have the advisers and can't kick them out.It occurs to me that instead of tying important plots to the companions as in previous BioWare games, they might tie it to the people you can't boot out/kill this time.
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Even if the advisers were straight, there would still be at least one bisexual companion LI. For all we know, there may be two bi LI companions per gender. This notion that it's unfair if the advisers are straight because they deserve to get two companion romances, or that straight advisers equate to discrimination, is really bewildering to me. If all the companions were gay and lesbian, then I'd agree that it isn't a fair spread. But a problem if advisers are straight, yet there is still a companion option (if not two) also available, is lost on me.
It's just the principle of the matter. The idea of automatically putting straights in one category. Just because.
They might be great romances btw.. I just don't appreciate being singled out like that.
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I won't have any problem with being 'stuck' with the NPC romances. But I know I'm an exception.We don't even know how the npc romances are going to be implemented yet, they could be great or even end up being superior to the companion romances. I think it's a bit early for anyone to write them off as being the lesser option at this point.
That being said, this isn't the first time this discussion has come up in this thread. Let's face it, nobody wants to be "stuck" with the npc romances. The LGBT players were just as adamant that they wanted the companion romances the last time this came up too. I find it funny that now that straight gamers are complaining about the same thing, people are all "Why? The npc romances could end up being amazing," Which leads to me thinking "Well why didn't you guys want them then?"
I won't have any problem with being 'stuck' with the NPC romances. But I know I'm an exception.
Same here, but the vast majority i've seen post on the matter (straight or otherwise) certainly do.
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I'd be happy with an NPC romance as straight personally. I'd only raise my eyebrows if they did it to straight females as well.
Did he? In the Cullen advisor thread he said he can't say if we can or can't because it'll be spoiler.
Though I think they won't be dismissable, and I agree with your theory.
You can't pick the advisors.
And yeah, if this is a deal breaker type of event for you, I'd rather you know now then buy the game and feel jaded because of it.
That being said, this isn't the first time this discussion has come up in this thread. Let's face it, nobody wants to be "stuck" with the npc romances. The LGBT players were just as adamant that they wanted the companion romances the last time this came up too. I find it funny that now that straight gamers are complaining about the same thing, people are all "Why? The npc romances could end up being amazing," Which leads to me thinking "Well why didn't you guys want them then?"
I was fine with Steve being my second option in ME 3. I didn't need him in the combat with me because he played a large enough role (with content at the beginning of every mission, as well as reacting to all of them afterwards in dialogue) that I didn't think that I was "suffering" because of it.
My point is this: Would I like it be even across all gender/sexuality combinations? Yes. Will it be? I don't know yet. If it isn't and straight guys are the ones who get less this time around? You'll live. It happened to everyone else before and we're still here. Find the option that you like the best and make due until the next game comes out. I call it the "Zevran Solution".....
I checked and I misremembered. Please forgive me.I still think you won't be able to get rid of them until the very end of the game though.
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I was fine with Steve being my second option in ME 3. I didn't need him in the combat with me because he played a large enough role (with content at the beginning of every mission, as well as reacting to all of them afterwards in dialogue) that I didn't think that I was "suffering" because of it.
My point is this: Would I like it be even across all gender/sexuality combinations? Yes. Will it be? I don't know yet. If it isn't and straight guys are the ones who get less this time around? You'll live. It happened to everyone else before and we're still here. Find the option that you like the best and make due until the next game comes out. I call it the "Zevran Solution".....
I dont think the way Steve was done even applies here. ME3 was small maps, with radio communications and mission briefings and such. I don't think they can apply the same type of things here. It's more pseudo open world, big maps and lots of exploration, longer periods away from base, and no radio systems. I'm interested how they'll be implemented, but it'll be something entirely new, I think.
I dont think the way Steve was done even applies here. ME3 was small maps, with radio communications and mission briefings and such. I don't think they can apply the same type of things here. It's more pseudo open world, big maps and lots of exploration, longer periods away from base, and no radio systems. I'm interested how they'll be implemented, but it'll be something entirely new, I think.
The point is that we don't know how it's going to be done here. Once they announce the mechanics, then we'll be able to speak on it with confidence. As of now, we just don't know.
I was fine with Steve being my second option in ME 3. I didn't need him in the combat with me because he played a large enough role (with content at the beginning of every mission, as well as reacting to all of them afterwards in dialogue) that I didn't think that I was "suffering" because of it.
My point is this: Would I like it be even across all gender/sexuality combinations? Yes. Will it be? I don't know yet. If it isn't and straight guys are the ones who get less this time around? You'll live. It happened to everyone else before and we're still here. Find the option that you like the best and make due until the next game comes out. I call it the "Zevran Solution".....
I agree with you, I wouldn't have any problem at all with the straight romances being npcs. It makes absolutely no difference to me. It also wouldn't bother me personally if the romances weren't spread out equally and "fairly."
The whole "I went through this, so deal with it" and "You should have to go through what we had to" attitude however, I can see why people are getting annoyed about. I understand why people feel this way, but it doesn't excuse the way people are coming across at times. It makes those posters look petty and downright spiteful.
He's got a point about the radios, though.
Then again, Asunder introduced speaking stones as a form of remote magical communication devices into the dragon age lore.
Just sayin'.
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The point is that we don't know how it's going to be done here. Once they announce the mechanics, then we'll be able to speak on it with confidence. As of now, we just don't know.
I agree. We don't know. And as I said, I'm interested what it actually is.
At face value though, I still don't think it plays to any things that appeal to me about games like this (adventuring and exploration). That's just me though. Some people like other things.
I was fine with Steve being my second option in ME 3. I didn't need him in the combat with me because he played a large enough role (with content at the beginning of every mission, as well as reacting to all of them afterwards in dialogue) that I didn't think that I was "suffering" because of it.
My point is this: Would I like it be even across all gender/sexuality combinations? Yes. Will it be? I don't know yet. If it isn't and straight guys are the ones who get less this time around? You'll live. It happened to everyone else before and we're still here. Find the option that you like the best and make due until the next game comes out. I call it the "Zevran Solution".....
No way straight guys get the least amount of options. Cassandra, Vivienne and the other advisor will likely be available for males. I can at most only see one of those being bi so that would give lesbians two options. Gay males will get Dorian and one other, I'm going with Solas and writing off Iron Bull, Blackwall, Varric and Cole as options. Straight females get Solas and Cullen.
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He's got a point about the radios, though.
Then again, Asunder introduced speaking stones as a form of remote magical communication devices into the dragon age lore.
Just sayin'.
Wait.. wasn't that the anime? I don't remember it in Asunder.
I agree with you, I wouldn't have any problem at all with the straight romances being npcs. It makes absolutely no difference to me. It also wouldn't bother me personally if the romances weren't spread out equally and "fairly."
The whole "I went through this, so deal with it" and "You should have to go through what we had to" attitude however, I can see why people are getting annoyed about. I understand why people feel this way, but it doesn't excuse the way people are coming across at times. It makes those posters look petty and downright spiteful.
If someone wants straight guys to get less just so that they have to go through with it, then that's questionable. If straight guys are getting less options and someone tells them that it's not that bad because everyone else had to go through with it in the past, that's a different thing.
And, yes, I agree with you. It can be very, very frustrating to have people with more options tell you that you should be happy with what you get. I have a ton of experience with it, so I know.
Wait.. wasn't that the anime? I don't remember it in Asunder.
Wynne tells Shale to get word to the Divine via speaking stone at one of the nearby circles, Divine sends out word to all of the circles.
Granted from the description they don't sound like mobile devices, but who knows. The thought had literally just occurred to me when I made that post.
The whole "I went through this, so deal with it" and "You should have to go through what we had to" attitude however, I can see why people are getting annoyed about. I understand why people feel this way, but it doesn't excuse the way people are coming across at times. It makes those posters look petty and downright spiteful.
Guest_StreetMagic_*
Wynne tells Shale to get word to the Divine via speaking stone at one of the nearby circles, Divine sends out word to all of the circles.
Granted from the description they don't sound like mobile devices, but who knows. The thought had literally just occurred to me when I made that post.
Yeah, I remembered after I made that post. It just seemed like a messaging system. In the anime though, I think that one blood mage used a stone in real time.
I've never mentioned the idea that straight gamers are being oppressed. I was talking about certain posters conduct on the forums.
You will never convince me that straight men are being oppressed, excluded, or are being discriminated against when it comes to
video gamesanything ever.
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You will never convince me that straight men are being oppresses, excluded, or are being discriminated against when it comes to video games, so arguments based around straight men seeing themselves as oppressed, excluded, or discriminated against are not meaningful to me.
As I've said, the situation they're complaining about is not one I'd consider unfair when applied to myself. If BioWare had said 'We're making two female LI options bisexual and one straight,' I'd have been okay with this.
Moreover, I expect that straight men will end up still getting more options than queer women. I find the wringing of hands on the subject bizarre.
Why is this just about straight men? Who cares about them? 
I only think it's fishy if people arbritrarily want advisor romances to be for both male and female straights. Both. Not one or the other. It's the idea of relegating all straights into one type of game content that's lame.
Anyway, I'm of course an outspoken proponent of the NPC-romances, so if Cassandra was bi and Scribbles was straight, I wouldn't be bothered in the least.
That being said, I've also pointed out several times that there's no guarantee or real reason to believe that Cullen and Scribbles will have the same sexual orientation.
No way straight guys get the least amount of options. Cassandra, Vivienne and the other advisor will likely be available for males. I can at most only see one of those being bi so that would give lesbians two options. Gay males will get Dorian and one other, I'm going with Solas and writing off Iron Bull, Blackwall, Varric and Cole as options. Straight females get Solas and Cullen.
I tend to agree with you. For all we know, Cass and Viv could be straight options and Scribe Girl a bisexual option giving straight guys 3 options and everyone else only 2. This is why I think the "we are suffering" posts are a bit premature.
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