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#8701
Phate Phoenix

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Didn't Ellis tweet he was doing voice work for Bioware a year or so before they made it official?

 

Yeah, and he got in trouble for it.  :lol: I meant when he was allowed to tell us he was returning.



#8702
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That is interesting. It goes to show that the many, many variables in human sexual preferences are beyond what they'd ever be able to fit into a game; given that I've known more than a few women who find those very concepts to be extremely appealing.

 

It's probably just the women that I attract. I'm the indisputable top in all my relationships, irrespective of ... well, anything, so it makes sense that the women I dated would find the not-me qualities less than attractive. 



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Disagree when making a change to a valued aspect of romance it should be taken into account in terms of fairly splitting this content imo. Certainly shouldn't be thrust solely upon a straight orientations.

 

Bioware never really said anything about being fair, only giving equal options for the players


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Bioware never really said anything about being fair, only giving equal options for the players

 

Yep as long as everyone gets at least 2 options I'm fine (well I personally would prefer each orientation got a fully fledged companion to themselves but whatever).



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Bioware never really said anything about being fair, only giving equal options for the players

 

They're entitled to choose to go for an objective of solely pure numerical equality as they are entitled to do anything as its their game. If that turns out to the case i'm equally entitled to take issue with being part of selective test group(f that happens) being experimented on & feedback on it.



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They're entitled to choose to go for an objective of solely pure numerical equality as they are entitled to do anything as its their game. If that turns out to the case i'm equally entitled to take issue with being part of selective test group being experimented on & feedback on it.

 

Selective test group being experimented on? Umm... what? 


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Disagree when making a change to a valued aspect of romance it should be taken into account in terms of fairly splitting this content imo. Certainly shouldn't be thrust solely upon a straight orientations.

 

But again,this is just you (and some other people). Bioware clearly doesn't think they're lesser romances. Bioware can't take absolutely everyone's opinions into account when designating orientations of characters.



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Well there are a few conversations I feel like remarking on atm xD

 

First: Just because a character is a Advisor doesn't mean they won't ever fight beside you. They may never be a companion in gameplay aspects, but on certain missions you know Leliana will go with you, and I think it's safe to assume Cullen will as well. You'll see them in combat cut scenes fighting with you occasionally, or possibly even running around some battles fighting with you, only controlled by an AI. Now I know that won't feel the same to some people, but from a story perspective some of them may have a much larger impact than certain companions. There's also the fact that it seems like to me that you have to talk to the advisors to move the plot along. It won't be like in the ME games where you can almost completely overlook characters like Kelly, Traynor and Steve.

 

Second: I've personally not been grouping the advisor LIs separate from the companion romances. If each character is developed the same amount and given the same budget, I don't think they need to consider equal representation of the advisor and companion LIs separately. And honestly with both so few advisors and so few females in the available pool of LI characters, I don't see why they should either.


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But again,this is just you (and some other people). Bioware clearly doesn't think they're lesser romances. Bioware can't take absolutely everyone's opinions into account when designating orientations of characters.

 

Sure they can decide who's opinions to take into account. Lots of people lost out in regards of them listening to the anti-DA2 approach. I'm just stating my opinion, how this new approach/aspect could be done with a semblance of fairness. If they decide otherwise well you can guess my what my feedback will be. Doesn't mean i expect that feedback to part the nile.



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Yeah, and he got in trouble for it.  :lol: I meant when he was allowed to tell us he was returning.

What happened to him after he did it? Did they yell at him?



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What happened to him after he did it? Did they yell at him?

 

They sent him to bed without supper.


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What happened to him after he did it? Did they yell at him?

 

Well, the tweet disappeared very quickly, and he was rather tight-lipped about stuff afterward.  :lol:



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I think the problem with the Advisor NPC romance is Bioware need to prove its a viable option to the traditional companions thats way how ever get's stuck with them will complain.

 

I actually think Bioware should have waited to announce Sexual orientation of the romances and done it all at once to then there would be no conserne on who gets who there will still be crying over it though.



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I actually think Bioware should have waited to announce Sexual orientation of the romances and done it all at once to then there would be no conserne on who gets who there will still be crying over it though.

I agree. With everyone announced, more people can at least focus more on the people they wanted and got rather than focus on the people they wanted and didn't get. 


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I think the problem with the Advisor NPC romance is Bioware need to prove its a viable option to the traditional companions thats way how ever get's stuck with them will complain.

 

I actually think Bioware should have waited to announce Sexual orientation of the romances and done it all at once to then there would be no conserne on who gets who there will still be crying over it though.

 

I think DAI is where they're going to step up to the plate and do that.

 

Though there will always be some people who don't like the concept.



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I think the problem with the Advisor NPC romance is Bioware need to prove its a viable option to the traditional companions thats way how ever get's stuck with them will complain.

 

I actually think Bioware should have waited to announce Sexual orientation of the romances and done it all at once to then there would be no conserne on who gets who there will still be crying over it though.

A lot of us could more or less agree with this.  



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I think the problem with the Advisor NPC romance is Bioware need to prove its a viable option to the traditional companions thats way how ever get's stuck with them will complain.

 

I actually think Bioware should have waited to announce Sexual orientation of the romances and done it all at once to then there would be no conserne on who gets who there will still be crying over it though.

I do think that announcing these things piecemeal was a mistake. 

 

Nevertheless, I do think that an advisor romance can work.  Whether or not it will does remain to be seen, but I don't see it as being 'stuck" with one.  Especially if there will be more than one option for everyone, and they don't end up going the ME3 FemShep route   :whistle:


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I think the problem with the Advisor NPC romance is Bioware need to prove its a viable option to the traditional companions thats way how ever get's stuck with them will complain.

 

I actually think Bioware should have waited to announce Sexual orientation of the romances and done it all at once to then there would be no conserne on who gets who there will still be crying over it though.

 

No one's getting "stuck with" advisors as LIs though. If it really bothers them then there will be a LI of the same gender that they can pursue among the companions. Said character might just be bi instead of straight or etc. 

 

Although I do agree, it might have been better if the orientations were announced all at once.



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Although I do agree, it might have been better if the orientations were announced all at once.

Unfortunately, I don't think it's BioWare's position to decide.  I believe the EA marketing team is responsible for the reveals. 



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While I agree that announcing orientations all at once would have saved a lot of heartache, I think it would have gone over quite badly if they announced the romanceable characters before that. Just imagine the forum rage if people got all into, say, a Sera or Dorian romance only to find out they're not available to their preferred gender. 



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Unfortunately, I don't think it's BioWare's position to decide.  I believe the EA marketing team is responsible for the reveals. 

 

That is entirely possible. It doesn't really hurt my feelings how it's happening personally, but I know it's causing a lot of angst among other fans.

 

I have a few characters in particular I'm hoping for, but at the same time I'll be happy with whatever we get. I'm not difficult to please. xD



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I just wish we knew more about who's getting race gated and by which race. I just find the subject very interesting for some reason :P



#8723
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I'm still mad about the race gating, for the record.


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I would not worry too much about Advisers just yet. Sure, in the game itself if that is your LI - you loose the fun keeping your LI constantly at your sight. However, you get to take more other companions, since that slot normally occupied by LI is free now. Plus - do not forget DLCs. Advisers - are not someone they have to add. So, I do believe we might be able to see DLCs totally dedicated to our Advisers or at least made in a way, where advisers become companions in traditional meaning. 

Just saying.



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Unfortunately, I don't think it's BioWare's position to decide.  I believe the EA marketing team is responsible for the reveals. 

 

Doesn't Bioware have their own marketing team?