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[Deenath]

http://gaygeekguide....its-incredible/

 

Maybe they are going to show the so called romance chart there, since they've said they're going to say something about the matter "soon".

[Stakrin]

That is still quite a lot of options. Something for everyone...

Except me. (Lol)

But that is okay, because I liked morrigan and Leliana in origins and Isabella in da:2

[azarhal]

http://gaygeekguide....its-incredible/

 

Maybe they are going to show the so called romance chart there, since they've said they're going to say something about the matter "soon".

 

I doubt it. They will probably reveal the (a) male BI romance though.

[daveliam]

I doubt it. They will probably reveal the (a) male BI romance though.

 

The Bioware panel is called "Building a Better Romance" and there's a likelihood that the remaining LI's are all bisexual, so it would certainly be the appropriate time and place to reveal them.

[Stakrin]

The Bioware panel is called "Building a Better Romance" and there's a likelihood that the remaining LI's are all bisexual, so it would certainly be the appropriate time and place to reveal them.

What makes a romance better or worse though is all I want to know

[daveliam]

What makes a romance better or worse though is all I want to know

 

Maybe you should go to the panel and fine out!  It's on Saturday from 3:30-4:15.  Here's the description from the website:

 

"A discussion of how romances came to be in BioWare games—why are they done as they are? What purpose do they serve in the overall game? What issues exist, and is there a better way to make them that isn’t simply “add additional content”? We’d like to hear your thoughts and questions."

[Neesa]

David Gaider said that the priority was making sure everyone got the same number across "real world" demographics, like gender/sexuality, and that race distribution was not a priority. So, I doubt it will be 5/3.   

 

Where did he say that exactly? It sounds pretty new.

[Stakrin]

Maybe you should go to the panel and fine out! It's on Saturday from 3:30-4:15. Here's the description from the website:

"A discussion of how romances came to be in BioWare games—why are they done as they are? What purpose do they serve in the overall game? What issues exist, and is there a better way to make them that isn’t simply “add additional content”? We’d like to hear your thoughts and questions."

Yeah, seems like it will be interesting. I don't really go to events like that though, or watch even E3 on livestream. I just check online for summaries the next day.

[Vapaa]

Sigh really hoped the outsider romance was within the 8 romances.

 

Because I don't want Vivienne to be romanceable, but on the other hand, she's the only possibility for a 4th companion romance...

[daveliam]

Sigh really hoped the outsider romance was within the 8 romances.

 

Because I don't want Vivienne to be romanceable, but on the other hand, she's the only possibility for a 4th companion romance...

 

Only if you assume that there will be 4 female romances.

[Ryzaki]

Sigh really hoped the outsider romance was within the 8 romances.

 

Because I don't want Vivienne to be romanceable, but on the other hand, she's the only possibility for a 4th companion romance...

 

Same. Dagna seemed great.

 

Really not liking all the female companions being romances =/ especially not when there's so few of them.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Where did he say that exactly? It sounds pretty new.

It's what he said when he first basically confirmed race gating on the forums. I will try to find his quote again, but it may take a while.

 

(Unless someone else happens to know an easier way to find it?)

[Ianamus]

It's what he said when he first basically confirmed race gating on the forums. I will try to find his quote again, but it may take a while.

 

(Unless someone else happens to know an easier way to find it?)

 

I don't remember him saying that, only that some race/gender combinations may get more options than others. I'll have a look anyway.

[AresKeith]

I think the last 3 are Vivienne, Solas, and Iron Bull

[SurelyForth]

Sigh really hoped the outsider romance was within the 8 romances.

 

Because I don't want Vivienne to be romanceable, but on the other hand, she's the only possibility for a 4th companion romance...

 

Again, Vivienne not being a romance option is bad because of the racial implications (especially since Sera was lightened from her concept art and Josephine is a WoC but is still relatively light and has light eyes). At this point, dragging in an outside character when Vivienne is right there would look super bad on BW (and disappoint a bunch of people who need the representation she offers). Unless she is actually married or in a LTR, I can't think of a single "reason"  they could offer for her not being a LI that can't be countered with other characters who were love interests or that doesn't tread heavily into certain racially charged stereotypes. 

 

I would be all for the remaining three slots going to male LIs because I have negative interest in Cullen and Iron Bull and would like to romance more than Josphine and Sera with my Femquistors. More slots mean it's more likely to get the romance I want. But I would gladly sacrifice my choice if it means Vivienne is a romance option because, ultimately, she's just as important re: representation as Dorian and Sera. 

[Vapaa]

Only if you assume that there will be 4 female romances.

 

Which is why I said "possible", although if there's 3 female LIs versus 5 male LI's, tables will be flipped.

 

Again, Vivienne not being a romance option is bad because of the racial implications (especially since Sera was lightened from her concept art and Josephine is a WoC but is still relatively light and has light eyes).

 

I want a female character with an agenda, and no time for romance, no "if there weren't this war" BS just not interested.

[Isaidlunch]

If there's one thing I liked about the DA2 approach it would actually be Merrill and Fenris. I thought it was a nice change to have two bisexual characters who didn't feel the need to broadcast their sexuality to everyone or otherwise make it obvious. Unfortunately it seems like that was an unintentional side effect of the whole playersexual approach (ugh).

[Phate Phoenix]

It's what he said when he first basically confirmed race gating on the forums. I will try to find his quote again, but it may take a while.
 
(Unless someone else happens to know an easier way to find it?)

This post?
 

By "particular group" I mean "in real life."
 
Worrying about the distribution between male and female players, and one of them feeling like content geared at them was an afterthought, I am fine with. Worrying about a distribution amongst sexualities, and making it so that gay or bisexual players don't feel they won't have choices, I am also fine with. Worrying about "players who like playing dwarves" or "players who like playing humans" or whatever other races, that I'm not as concerned about. Which is why I'm saying you will have options, but you may not have the same number of options depending on what race you select.
 
It's fine if someone doesn't like that idea. Some folks, we're quite aware, aren't happy that romances are being gated at all and would prefer to have all romances available to all PC's. I would suggest not panicking just yet, as not all romances are even race-gated and the options have not all suddenly dried up as someone might fear, but I suppose until and unless they learn otherwise they can justifiably choose to be pessimistic. Maybe we'll put up the chart (yes, there's actually a chart) at some point, and having said information will make you feel better before you play the game, but that's not really my decision.

[AresKeith]

Sheryl Chee confirmed that the non-advisor/companion was someone you could flirt with; the 8 are all within the advisors and companions.

 

Guess that means no Dagna romance for some people

[90s Luke]

Again, Vivienne not being a romance option is bad because of the racial implications (especially since Sera was lightened from her concept art and Josephine is a WoC but is still relatively light and has light eyes). At this point, dragging in an outside character when Vivienne is right there would look super bad on BW (and disappoint a bunch of people who need the representation she offers). Unless she is actually married or in a LTR, I can't think of a single "reason"  they could offer for her not being a LI that can't be countered with other characters who were love interests or that doesn't tread heavily into certain racially charged stereotypes. 

 

The writer (in this case Mary Kirby) decides if the character (in this case Vivienne) is romanceable, nothing else (especially not the possibility of disappointing anyone).

 

However, I do hope that Vivienne is romanceable.

[Stakrin]

Guess that means no Dagna romance for some people

She may have flirting though.
I will flirt with Celene if I can.

[Grieving Natashina]

The writer (in this case Mary Kirby) decides if the character (in this case Vivienne) is romanceable, nothing else (especially not the possibility of disappointing anyone).

 

However, I do hope that Vivienne is romanceable.

For the sake for her fans that want her as a LI, me too.  It's never fun finding out the companion you want it have as a LI isn't available to any gender.  

[Ianamus]

If there's one thing I liked about the DA2 approach it would actually be Merrill and Fenris. I thought it was a nice change to have two bisexual characters who didn't feel the need to broadcast their sexuality to everyone or otherwise make it obvious. Unfortunately it seems like that was an unintentional side effect of the whole playersexual approach (ugh).

 

I think they went too far though. 

 

I'm all for bisexual characters who are less vocal about their sexuality, but they need to be vocal enough about it that you actually know they are bisexual characters. Fenris and Merrill were so vague that you never knew playing, even if you heard all of their dialogue and banters, and people argue over what their sexualities are even now.

 

It's difficult to call them strong bisexual characters when people keep second guessing me about whether they are even bisexual at all. 

[s-jay2676]

That is still quite a lot of options. Something for everyone...

There's no one for me.

[AresKeith]

Same. Dagna seemed great.

 

Really not liking all the female companions being romances =/ especially not when there's so few of them.

 

Personally why I'd prefer if there was only 6 or 7 LI's