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#10976
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Did you miss the part in my post where I said that equaling someone's sexuality (something they are born with) to someone coming off as racist (something you are not born with) as silly?

 

Again, why gender must be a important thing if species isn't ? Species of Thedas are biologically different, unlike human "races" who are just variations of the same species.



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Kudos to girls who are into older guys, but as a woman in my twenties, I don't really see anyone in the pool who doesn't look a bit too old for me to feel comfortable rp-ing a romance with? I know this game is rated 'mature', but I feel a bit sorry for late teens/people under thirty wanting to play a straight Lady Inquisitor.

 

I don't doubt that Bioware are gonna win me over with some amazing characters, but Iron Bull, Varric and Blackwall all feel old enough to be my Dad and I have to admit that feels weird.

 

I'l probably play this game a silly number of times/try all the options anyway. Sera looks pretty awesome.

I think there's something to be said about the problem of male love interests typically being older than female love interests (although, in DA:I only Sera comes off a youngish LI) but for some reason I am expecting the inquisitor to be older than Hawke started as this time around. Not sure why. In that case, there wouldn't be such a disparity between the ages.



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Almost everyone is old in this game. Even those who don't quite look it. Cass, Cullen, and Leli are nearing their 40s. Varric too. I think if someone wants to play some teen, they're intentionally making themselves out of place.



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Again, why gender must be a important thing when species isn't ? Species of Thedas are biologically different, unlike human "races" who are just variations of the same species.

Because you are born with your sexuality and unless it's said otherwise I find it hard to believe that say a human would be born with a dislike of all elves for example.

 

Also I didn't say this would make the companions racist just that it would be hard for ME to not have it rub off that way and it might turn me off to that character. Who knows they might pull it off very well and it won't come off that way to me at all but I'm worried that won't happen and it'll rub me the wrong way.



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Almost everyone is old in this game. Even those who don't quite look it. Cass, Cullen, and Leli are nearing their 40s. Varric too. I think if someone wants to play some teen, they're intentionally making themselves out of place.

 

That's exactly what I'm doing XD my Quizzy's gonna be 20. The LIs being older should hopefully mean more mature LIs so there's a upside to everything.



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It'd be cool if I could find a companion that played somewhat like my Dalish Warden. They started as racist (I killed those humans in the beginning, for example), but the story as a whole is a growing process. Nothing is set in stone.



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I love how someone in their 40s is "old."  :P  I think the whole age thing is silly, because one of the last things we're really going to care about is how old they are once we actually play the game.  

 

Now, for those that have companions that remind them of family, that's a completely different matter.  For example, I couldn't ever picture Aveline in a romantic way because she looks a lot like my sister-in-law.



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Did you miss the part in my post where I said that equaling someone's sexuality (something they are born with) to someone coming off as racist (something you are not born with) as silly?


Not a problem. If you aren't attracted to dwarves, it isn't racist. It's just preference, and having attraction to whoever you date is healthy. If you have 0 sexual attraction the relationship won't be at it's best IMO. (And I do think this is included in abstinent relationships)

Otherwise would I not date a male. I was born straight, and grew up and chose not to be attracted to a certain skin color, maybe.

So I am a bad person if I won't be with the girl who is white, just because I am not attracted to white girls? I don't think so, because the only reason I am not attracted to guys is because I am not attracted to them.
(This isn't true though, just a hypothetical statement.)

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Because you are born with your sexuality and unless it's said otherwise I find it hard to believe that say  humans are born with a dislike of all elves for example.

I do think that a human/elf not wanting to date humans/elves can easily be ehhhh since elves are basically humans with pointy ears biologically, but there are significant body type differences between qunari and dwarves for example...



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I love how someone in their 40s is "old."   :P

 

I know it's really not. I'm nearing there myself though... it's how I feel lately. lol



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Because you are born with your sexuality and unless it's said otherwise I find it hard to believe that say  humans are born with a dislike of all elves for example.

 

You're mixing species and speciesm; if sexuality is a preference you're born with, why isn't it also the case for say elfsexuality ? It's also a preference you're born with.

 

(PS: sexuality doesn't mean dislike for the other side, I'm straight and don't dislike guys, I just don't engage in romance shenanigans with them)



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You're mixing species and speciesm; if sexuality is a preference you're born with, why isn't it also the case for say elfsexuality ? It's also a preference you're born with.

 

(PS: sexuality doesn't mean dislike for the other side, I'm straight and don't dislike guys, I just don't engage in romance shenanigans with them)

 

 

:blink:

 

Nope.+I+m+out+_ec0537e4da191df680e6bf83f

 

Not touching this one.  I'll be back later.


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Blackwall's age is whatever, I just hope we get a hot cougar lady someday.  My one Warden totally wanted to lay her head in Wynne's bosom along with Zevran. :P



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Man, everytime Dwarves are used as the undesirable race example, I need another bucket of icecream.

 

ON A happier note, I'm glad to see that the last three will still be in the group we know best. Desperately hoping for Varric now.


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Not a problem. If you aren't attracted to dwarves, it isn't racist. It's just preference, and having attraction to whoever you date is healthy. If you have 0 sexual attraction the relationship won't be at it's best IMO. (And I do think this is included in abstinent relationships)

Otherwise would I not date a male. I was born straight, and grew up and chose not to be attracted to a certain skin color, maybe.

So I am a bad person if I won't be with the girl who is white, just because I am not attracted to white girls? I don't think so, because the only reason I am not attracted to guys is because I am not attracted to them.
(This isn't true though, just a hypothetical statement.)

 

I"m not trying to equal real life racism to Thedas racism I said that in another post right on the other page, preferences are fine but I just find it odd if you flat out refused to date someone because of them being a dwarf for example. Like i mentioned before it just rubs ME the wrong way and comes off as maybe some Thedas racism thats the way it feels to ME. I wish people stop bringing real life racism into this since I'm not comparing the two I'm using only examples that may exist within Thedas not real life ones.

 

I do think that a human/elf not wanting to date humans/elves can easily be ehhhh since elves are basically humans with pointy ears biologically, but there are significant body type differences between qunari and dwarves for example...

I was just using humans and elves since it was the first two that popped into my head but my example would be the same with any race I just find it hard to believe that someone can be born with a dislike of dwarves, qunaris, elves, humans, etc.

 

You're mixing species and speciesm; if sexuality is a preference you're born with, why isn't it also the case for say elfsexuality ? It's also a preference you're born with.

 

(PS: sexuality doesn't mean dislike for the other side, I'm straight and don't dislike guys, I just don't engage in romance shenanigans with them)

 

They are called different races in game so that is the word I am using. I know it doesn't mean dislike that was poor choice of words on my own part, I'm just saying that I find it hard to believe that in Thedas someone would be born with an outright zero attraction to dwarves, elves, qunari, human, etc despite them having other qualities they would be highly attracted too. This is MY opinion and I am just worried the race gates might rub ME the wrong way and I hope I am wrong and that they are done well but I am still worried about it. So I believe I have a right to say that in MY opinion it may come off as Thedas racism to me do I not?



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Man, everytime Dwarves are used as the undesirable race example, I need another bucket of icecream.

ON A happier note, I'm glad to see that the last three will still be in the group we know best. Desperately hoping for Varric now.


Haha...sorry about that.

I am...not happy about this. I am not into any of the LI's for my main playthrough. (Straight human male) Hopefully I can have some bromance with Solas and Cole though. If I don't end up getting along with them, Dorian seems awesome.

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It should rub you the wrong way. lol

 

That doesn't mean it shouldn't be in game though. I think people should sometimes deal with it directly, instead of having the decisions made for them.



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It should rub you the wrong way. lol

That doesn't mean it shouldn't be in game though. I think people should sometimes deal with it directly, instead of having the decisions made for them.


I don't know. I don't see a problem with preference.

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I just want my PC to be able to reject any LIs for the same reason LIs can reject them is all.

 

That's all it'd take for me to be content.

 

(Plus rejecting human LIs on my elf fetishist characters will be hilarious).



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That pretty much confirms Vivienne as a romance option unless they're going to do 5 male love interests/3 female love interests, which is not typical at all. The only game that was remotely like that was DA2, with a DLC companion.



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Man, everytime Dwarves are used as the undesirable race example, I need another bucket of icecream.


What flavor?
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Kudos to girls who are into older guys, but as a woman in my twenties, I don't really see anyone in the pool who doesn't look a bit too old for me to feel comfortable rp-ing a romance with? I know this game is rated 'mature', but I feel a bit sorry for late teens/people under thirty wanting to play a straight Lady Inquisitor.
 
I don't doubt that Bioware are gonna win me over with some amazing characters, but Iron Bull, Varric and Blackwall all feel old enough to be my Dad and I have to admit that feels weird.
 
I'l probably play this game a silly number of times/try all the options anyway. Sera looks pretty awesome.


Cullen ain't no Bieber but I reckon he would appeal to me had I been in your age group and a female.

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They are called different races in game so that is the word I am using.

 

Race is a blurry concept used out of its confort zone that was originally animals.

I use "species" because "races" are too tied with the false concept of human races and ends up being misleading.

 

 

I'm just saying that I find it hard to believe that in Thedas someone would be born with an outright zero attraction to dwarves, elves, qunari, human, etc despite them having other qualities they would be highly attracted too.

 

Yes, but just like someone can be attracted to various species, someone can be attracted to just one or two. Do they need a "good reason" to ?

 

 

This is MY opinion and I am just worried the race gates might rub ME the wrong way and I hope I am wrong and that they are done well but I am still worried about it. So I believe I have a right to say that in MY opinion it may come off as Thedas racism to me do I not?

 

YOUR opinion is influenced by your life in OUR world, and can very well be challeged by the outlook of characters that live in a different world.

 

After all, characterization must be made with the fictional world in mind.



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What flavor?

 

Chocolate chip mint? I don't actually have it with me though, trying to cut down on the sugars.



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Man, everytime Dwarves are used as the undesirable race example, I need another bucket of icecream.

 

Why am I out of likes for the first time ever?!

 

Whenever I read this sort of thing, I want to eat some cake. And then do more push-ups. (Because my lady dwarf PCs are also my liftspiration.)


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