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#11026
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A 5/3 LI imbalance would really suck, I'm still bitter that the core team has a gender ratio of 7/5, but 5 males LI vs 3 females LI would really be rubbing salt in the wounds.


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#11027
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Asexual =! Aromantic

 

An asexual person can very much want to be in a romantic relationship with someone (strong emotional bond, non-sexual physical contact, etc.), they just aren't sexually attracted to other people (usually). Solas could very well be asexual and still be a romance option (and a lot of people want an asexual romance). What you guys are referring to is more aromantic, and that would likely preclude him from being a love interest. 

 

My guess is that they wouldn't address the ace/aro thing at all and say he's too into his work, kinda like Mordin. 

 

Personally, I would love for him to be super openly pansexual. I thought Anders' declaration to M!Hawke was pretty pan, but since it never comes up with F!Hawke, it's not the same as someone who would actually talk about it with other people in a non-sexualized way (Isabela). 


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My guess is that they wouldn't address the ace/aro thing at all and say he's too into his work, kinda like Mordin. 

 

Mordin was a total player though.. at least with Aria. Heh



#11029
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I just realized that it'd be a 5-3 skew.... IDK I mean, I would lOVE for Viv to be a romacne option and I assumed she would at least in the beginning esp last Feb when Bioware used her and a quote that sounded like it could be from her directly in some Valentine's Day Card, but the more they release about her, the more I personally thought that she fit into the "Has more things to be worried about aside from the Inquisitior" dealio that's said about Companions who wouldn't be romance options. However I will concur that Blackwall and Solas are also vague as Solas seems super asexual considering his info and Blackwall is close to his death, or rather the calling. I will however state that Blackwall is tragic romance bait a la Thane if he is one. 

 

Conclusion, I would love for Viv to be a romance option, and I wouldn't doubt if she was bi with race gating because she seems to be super classy and proabbly wouldn't want to be seen with a Dwarf or something lol. 



#11030
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1. Cullen - for straight gals
2. Cass - for straight guys
3. Josephine - for everyone
4. Sera - for gay gals
5. Dorian - for gay guys
6. Varric - for everyone (possibly only dorfs)
7. Iron Bull - for everyone (possibly racegated somewhere?)
8. Blackwall - for everyone


Gay women - 2 LIs
Straight men - 2 LIs
Gay men - 4 LIs
Straight women - 4 LIs.

That doesn't look realistic to me. Drop a dude and add another bisexual female.
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#11031
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Maybe swap Blackwall for Vivienne - bisexual and perhaps race gated?  The amount of whine the forums would get would be phenomenal and I don't think my soul could take that... and I know BW don't care about balance with this, but ya know, the thought is terrifying to me.  I don't need tears for sustenance, they just drain me.  There's always going to be someone who's disappointed, I just don't know anymore, the whole thing is just depressing me...

 

Edit:  And I say this as someone with an interest in Solas (my number two after Varric)

 

Aww. :< *hugs* I just hope they'll reveal them all soon and hopefully we can contain the rage to other places than here.


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#11032
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Gay women - 2 LIs
Straight men - 2 LIs
Gay men - 4 LIs
Straight women - 4 LIs.

That doesn't look realistic to me. Drop a dude and add another bisexual female.

 

I dunno if Bioware will go for realism, just going on with what I've heard.

 

But I've considered swapping Blackwall for Vivienne.



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Aww. :< *hugs* I just hope they'll reveal them all soon and hopefully we can contain the rage to other places than here.

Thank you :).  I really just want it over with... I'd like everyone to be able to focus on other things as well..



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When I say it's not realistic, I mean it's not realistic to expect BioWare to give gay men double the options of straight men.

As progressive as they are, it's not going to happen.

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if they added another straight man and woman. I'm just hoping they won't do so.
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#11035
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Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if they added another straight man and woman. I'm just hoping they won't do so.

 

...

 

Lovely. Excuse me while I go fret over Vivienne being straight now.

 

plsmakernonotaftercasspls


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Gay women - 2 LIs
Straight men - 2 LIs
Gay men - 4 LIs
Straight women - 4 LIs.

That doesn't look realistic to me. Drop a dude and add another bisexual female.


Yeahhhhhh... It's gonna happen that way, isn't it? I'm expecting more straight people. 



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I personally wouldn't care. I'm happy enough with two options. Josie and Cass seem cool. I'd rather have Sera, but it's OK.

 

I only wish they include Vivienne because she has plenty of fans it seems. Not for myself. She doesn't appeal to me at all.



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When I say it's not realistic, I mean it's not realistic to expect BioWare to give gay men double the options of straight men.

As progressive as they are, it's not going to happen.

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if they added another straight man and woman. I'm just hoping they won't do so.

 

Oof, I hadn't thought about it that way. You might be right. @_@ *plsno*



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Asexual =! Aromantic
 
An asexual person can very much want to be in a romantic relationship with someone (strong emotional bond, non-sexual physical contact, etc.), they just aren't sexually attracted to other people (usually). Solas could very well be asexual and still be a romance option (and a lot of people want an asexual romance). What you guys are referring to is more aromantic, and that would likely preclude him from being a love interest. 
 
My guess is that they wouldn't address the ace/aro thing at all and say he's too into his work, kinda like Mordin. 
 
Personally, I would love for him to be super openly pansexual. I thought Anders' declaration to M!Hawke was pretty pan, but since it never comes up with F!Hawke, it's not the same as someone who would actually talk about it with other people in a non-sexualized way (Isabela).


I'd love that and I think it will fit him perfectly (the "super openly " part)

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I'm reallly optimist btw about the other 3 li being 1 bi female and 2 bi males.
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#11041
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Yeahhhhhh... It's gonna happen that way, isn't it? I'm expecting more straight people.


It would be nice if they added more bisexual LIs. I'll quote an earlier exchange in this thread though.
 

In DA II, I got two romances. In DA:I, I will probably get two romances.


Agreed, not everyone will benefit from doing it this way. But some will indeed get more choices, supposing they replay the game several times.


I can't speak for anyone else, but I think that's a strong indication that gay female PCs should expect no more than 2 LIs.
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#11042
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One good thing about Vivienne is that she occupies a completely different set of concerns and moral space than the others. This would flesh out the options among females. She's not an obvious do-gooder or selfless. Nor is she diplomatic like Josephine.


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#11043
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I'm really hoping that Solas is an LI. I think it would be refreshing to have a brainy, nerdy, intellectual character to romance for a change, as I don't think Bioware has done a male LI like that before (I seriously liked the character of Finn too and wished that went somewhere...). I also would really rather prefer not to have all the LI options for straight females to be brawny, muscular, masculine, warrior-type guys, and I think that Solas is a refreshing alternative for those of us who aren't attracted to that kind of guy.


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#11044
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It would be nice if they added more bisexual LIs. I'll quote an earlier exchange in this thread though.  I can't speak for anyone else, but I think that's a strong indication that gay female PC should expect no more than 2 LIs.


Ok, I didn't know that... Sounds bad, yes :( bus maybe he said that because of the race gating?

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It would be nice if they added more bisexual LIs. I'll quote an earlier exchange in this thread though.
 

I can't speak for anyone else, but I think that's a strong indication that gay female PCs should expect no more than 2 LIs.

 

I personally thought that he meant that someone who is willing to play both gender to try the romance will always have more choices than those who refuse to choose the opposite / same gender.


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#11046
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I can't speak for anyone else, but I think that's a strong indication that gay female PCs should expect no more than 2 LIs.

 

Jesus.

 

Yh, that doesn't bode well :(



#11047
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I personally thought that he meant that someone who is willing to play both gender to try the romance will always have more choices than those who refuse to choose the opposite gender.


Oh, true, that makes more sense

#11048
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Ok, I didn't know that... Sounds bad, yes :( bus maybe he said that because of the race gating?


As he knows me, Allan probably knows I was referring to all possible f/f romances regardless of race.

His quote could also have been a general 'curb your enthusiasm,' but I'm at the point where I'm anticipating any more female LIs will be straight.

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if Vivi's a straight LI -_-



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Wait.. if gay females only get 2, that isn't any different than straight males. So we're in the same boat.

 

Or am I missing something?

 

edit: Oh, if Viv is straight.

 

I highly doubt that.