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[Maria Caliban]

Seems a stretch Maria. They've confirmed 9 companions numerous times, confirmed there is no DLC companion, and now confirmed that we've met all of the companions. I'd not get your hopes up for a secret companion at this point.

Hopes up?

I've specifically said that I expect 2 LIs. If there's a secret companion who's female, I expect that she'll be straight.

That said, people got the strategy guide, knew Loghian was the secret companion, and the community reps still said there were only [however many non-loghian companions there are].

Developers will lie for plot reasons.
 

I would retreat to a bunker very far underground, I certainly wouldn't be able to stick around here that's for sure lol

If this shall end in fire, then we shall all burn together.

Why ? For what purpose ?

Just to see the forum melt.

[daveliam]

This is just random speculation to throw into the conversation, purely because I think it's important to remember that there are two race gated romances, and given the reasons Devs have stated in the past for race gating (Mainly citing animation issues), I cannot for the life of me think of a reason why they wouldn't be Varric and the Bull.

 

I'm thinking I'm alone in this, but does anyone have reasons why the others might be the race-gated options?

 

Keeping the race-gated information in mind I bet someone could make a pretty informed guess on who all our LI's are. 

 

I've seen Vivienne suggested as a possible gated LI with restrictions from elves due to political scandal concerns.  I'm not convinced.

[Lucy Glitter]

I've seen Vivienne suggested as a possible gated LI with restrictions from elves due to political scandal concerns.  I'm not convinced.

I can see that.

[josipa24]

I've seen Vivienne suggested as a possible gated LI with restrictions from elves due to political scandal concerns.  I'm not convinced.

 

Why not? Allan's quote or sth else?

[SurelyForth]

This is just random speculation to throw into the conversation, purely because I think it's important to remember that there are two race gated romances, and given the reasons Devs have stated in the past for race gating (Mainly citing animation issues), I cannot for the life of me think of a reason why they wouldn't be Varric and the Bull.

 

I'm thinking I'm alone in this, but does anyone have reasons why the others might be the race-gated options?

 

Keeping the race-gated information in mind I bet someone could make a pretty informed guess on who all our LI's are. 

 

Even then, you have to ask if they're both bisexual (because even if they covered all races between them, one of them not being bi means that either straight women or gay men of that uncovered race only have a single LI to, uh, choose from). 

[Grieving Natashina]

I've seen Vivienne suggested as a possible gated LI with restrictions from elves due to political scandal concerns.  I'm not convinced.

Yeah, me either.

[Reznore57]

I've seen Vivienne suggested as a possible gated LI with restrictions from elves due to political scandal concerns.  I'm not convinced.

 

Possible Vivienne would only be a human option.Sucks but human background is noble...

[Vapaa]

 

Does looking at it as "Everyone gets two options, but straight gals and gay guys of certain races get a third option" make it seem less skewed?

 

No, no amount of phrasing can diminish how skewed that would be.

[Ianamus]

I have a question for people:

Let's say that the remaining three LI's are all guys, with all of them being bisexual and two of them being race-gated so that only one or two races have access to them.  In this scenario, straight guys and lesbians will have two options each and straight gals and gay guys will have 2 options each with a few races getting a third option.  When it's phrased this way, it doesn't seem as skewed.  However, people are correct that this would be a 5/3 skew for male LI's. 

 

Does looking at it as "Everyone gets two options, but straight gals and gay guys of certain races get a third option" make it seem less skewed?

 

I ask this because I've seen many people on the BSN argue that the romances in ME2 imported romances in ME3 "didn't count" because the PC didn't have access to them unless them they imported them.  I've always argued that there were 10 romances in ME 3, but have had several people vehemently argue with me that it's "really" only 5 (because Miranda, Jack, Tali, Garrus, and Kelly have to be imported).  What are people's thoughts on this?

 

It's skewed no matter how you look at it, but I wouldn't particularly care that it's skewed since everyone has at least two options. 

 

That said, I'm not sure how likely that situation is. 

[Lucy Glitter]

Goddammit, why do I always post at the end of a page? It never gets answered.

Possible Vivienne would only be a human option.Sucks but human background is noble...

That makes it seem like her romance will be short-lived. It seems shallow, fling? no? Romances? Flings? The Same?

[BabyFratelli]

I've seen Vivienne suggested as a possible gated LI with restrictions from elves due to political scandal concerns.  I'm not convinced.

 

Even then, you have to ask if they're both bisexual (because even if they covered all races between them, one of them not being bi means that either straight women or gay men of that uncovered race only have a single LI to, uh, choose from). 

 

 

HmmmmMmmmMMmmmm...

 

Gah, I don't want to make a chart but I will if it'll let me get some rest.

[Maria Caliban]

Goddammit, why do I always post at the end of a page? It never gets answered.

Your post was too complicated for me, hun. It's 4 am here.

I think the answer is goat.

[Herr Uhl]

Why couldn't some of the existing romances be race gated? I thought the only one that we know isn't is Josephine.

[Maria Caliban]

Why couldn't some of the existing romances be race gated? I thought the only one that we know isn't is Josephine.

They could be. o.O

ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.

[Wulfram]

I want to see straight men getting 2 romances while gay men and straight women get 4.

I don't *wish* that upon anyone, but I just want to see the reaction when that's announced.

 

I'd like to see it too, because it might relax the feeling that strict equality is needed for fairness if there's a sense that everyone'll get their chance to be the lucky ones.

[Lucy Glitter]

Your post was too complicated for me, hun. It's 4 am here.

I think the answer is goat.

That is a sufficient answer. Ability to romance goats CONFIRMED.

Also, I would say go to bed but I stay up until 5am every night because that's when DA news is released Australia-time so I'd be a hypocrite. Still, go to sleep.

[javeart]

This is just random speculation to throw into the conversation, purely because I think it's important to remember that there are two race gated romances, and given the reasons Devs have stated in the past for race gating (Mainly citing animation issues), I cannot for the life of me think of a reason why they wouldn't be Varric and the Bull.

 

I'm thinking I'm alone in this, but does anyone have reasons why the others might be the race-gated options?

 

Keeping the race-gated information in mind I bet someone could make a pretty informed guess on who all our LI's are. 

 

In my case, only because I think it'd be better if there was also a female race-gated, not only male LIs. But I personally have no problem in playing any race, so I don't mind it. I don't know if some poeple more attached to play speific races could be bitter though, that straight women and gay guys get the 2 race-gated options, while lesbians and straight guys can choose their LI regadless of the race they're playing. Though some people being bitter about it it's obviously not a reason to make it impossible, so...

 

I don't know, I only think it'd be nicer if romances were equally distributed

[Reznore57]

Goddammit, why do I always post at the end of a page? It never gets answered.


That makes it seem like her romance will be short-lived. It seems shallow, fling? no? Romances? Flings? The Same?

 

Well I have a hard time picturing her romancing anyone.

So I'm not the best judge when it comes to Vivienne.

[Lucy Glitter]

Well I have a hard time picturing her romancing anyone.
So I'm not the best judge when it comes to Vivienne.

I don't think we have enough personal info about her.

[Sylvianus]

Well I have a hard time picturing her romancing anyone.

So I'm not the best judge when it comes to Vivienne.

 

I thought the same about Cassandra. 

[Herr Uhl]

They could be. o.O

ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.

 

I sense some sarcasm. But seeing David Gaider's post on the issue of equality, and how he doesn't really care for races in that, some of them could be rather arbitrary. Like Cullen not fancying dwarves or Qunari. I doubt the race gating would be down to animation issues.

[wright1978]

Possible Vivienne would only be a human option.Sucks but human background is noble...

 

I certainly see why that suit her given what we know of her character.

[Sylvianus]

To be honest, I don't really get this "  too ambitious " and too busy with her agenda " to suddenly be pleased with someone she meets, to fall in love with a man or a woman. I mean, I can understand if someone thinks she less likely to be an Li, but seeing it as weird is a bit strange to me.

[godModeAlpha]

I have a question for people:

Let's say that the remaining three LI's are all guys, with all of them being bisexual and two of them being race-gated so that only one or two races have access to them.  In this scenario, straight guys and lesbians will have two options each and straight gals and gay guys will have 2 options each with a few races getting a third option.  When it's phrased this way, it doesn't seem as skewed.  However, people are correct that this would be a 5/3 skew for male LI's. 

 

Does looking at it as "Everyone gets two options, but straight gals and gay guys of certain races get a third option" make it seem less skewed?

 

I ask this because I've seen many people on the BSN argue that the romances in ME2 imported romances in ME3 "didn't count" because the PC didn't have access to them unless them they imported them.  I've always argued that there were 10 romances in ME 3, but have had several people vehemently argue with me that it's "really" only 5 (because Miranda, Jack, Tali, Garrus, and Kelly have to be imported).  What are people's thoughts on this?

 

Realistically I only care if the character I think I can relate too (based on the information I know now) is a LI available to me.

 

makes sense to me that only players who plan to this game more than twice should and would be frustrated.

 

Not sure about how you came about the 5 / 3 ratio? I think this 2 / 4 / 2 ratio has been tossed around, which translates to:

 

+ Gay guy: 3 options (1 gay male and 2 bi males)

+ Gay lady: 3 options (1 gay female and 2 bi females males)

+ Straight guy: 3 options (1 straight female and 2 bi females)

+ Straight lady: 3 options (1 straight male and 2 bi males)

 

Gating is what throws a spanner in there.

[daveliam]

Why couldn't some of the existing romances be race gated? I thought the only one that we know isn't is Josephine.

I think people are working under the assumption that they won't double gate (race AND gender) a romance because it would limit the amount of players who would access it.

Although I guess a romance exclusive for straight male humans might still hit a large percentage of players.