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If your orientation stated clearly "I am only interested in people born with vaginas"
As opposed to "I am only interested in women"
Then yes, you could conceivably think a trans* woman had deceived you. Otherwise the onus is on you to realise that you are a person who defines a woman by their genitalia primarily.
Isn't that how most people define their own sexuality, by what genitalia they like on their sexual partner?
I can't imagine the average lesbian having sex with a pre-op transwoman.
Maybe some day we'll get back to talking about romances instead of... this.
I've been trying. 
It works like this.
"I feel like a woman, I want to be identified as a woman by others, I'm going to live my life as a woman."
Simple.
But that's totally meaningless! That doesn't tell you anything about the person, and doesn't change anything either.
I don't get how this doesn't reinforce gender roles. You're saying instead of people doing whatever they want regardless of their gender, they should swap genders based on what they want to do.
Absolutely nothing. It is a hypothetical by someone who wanted to know what people would think.
Oh ok :0
Isn't that how most people define their own sexuality, by what genitalia they like on their sexual partner?
I can't imagine the average lesbian having sex with a pre-op transwoman.
Well, I may not be average, but...
I pretty much agree with this, exactly... Except I do think it's possible Varric will be an LI, instead of Vivienne...
Though it would be a surprising move on Bioware's part to make 5 male LIs v. 3 female... I could see Varric being a sort of 'bonus' romance available only to female dwarves. And regarding Vivi, it's not so much her personality, as the fact that, like other posters have mentioned, it's a bit squicky to have EVERY SINGLE female companion and adviser be romanceable. I know, Leliana isn't in this game, but that's out of respect for those players who romanced her in a previous game. As a female player, I find it mildly objectifying, and I find it hard to believe that a progressive gaming company like Bioware with so many women on its dev team would be blind to that. Not that it bothers me overly much, mind you, and I'd appreciate the symmetry of it were she included in the final 8, but, it's also not an issue I can completely ignore.
Just my thoughts, personally... At this point I think I'm done trying to predict anything, for as we've seen so far anything can happen.
I'm going to assume for now that there wont be a gender imbalance based on David Gaider's comments that seemed to say all real world groups (gender/sexuality) would get equal options, but you may get less based on the gender/race combo you chose. My impression is that there will be equal options for everyone by real world standards, but depending on the race/gender you pick, you may have less options due to LIs being gated off from you. He said it was "all over the map" in that respect and I think that's likely because the two LIs (which I'm going to guess are Vivienne and IB for now) will be gated for different races.
That's just my interpretation of what was said, though, and some people don't agree. I fully acknowledge I could be wrong, but that's what I'm sticking with for now.
I will reunite Varric and Bianca even if I have to raze Thedas to the ground!
nah, she left him (implied). time he gets love from someone else *cough* inquisitor *cough*
Maybe some day we'll get back to talking about romances instead of... this.
It happens, we had a lovely discussion about asexuality a few weeks ago, I enjoyed that one very much.
As for sex change, we don't know if people access to hormones. Didn't know about the natural part, so Thanks. The one in the April trialer seems enough detailed to me.
I'll drop this now, though again, I apologize if it seems I was insulting transgenders.
No problems. A lot of people don't realize that men actually have the same structure as female breasts. The only reason women get breasts is because we get more of the hormones that produce those sex characteristics. If men were given the same hormones they would also produce breasts. In fact, men can actually lactate like women because they do possess mammary glands.
Fair point. At the risk of sending this thread off on a tangent, I'd like to ask how would you define a male or a female person?If your orientation stated clearly "I am only interested in people born with vaginas"
As opposed to "I am only interested in women"
Then yes, you could conceivably think a trans* woman had deceived you. Otherwise the onus is on you to realise that you are a person who defines a woman/man by their genitalia primarily.
nah, she left him (implied). time he gets love from someone else *cough* inquisitor *cough*
Put it there sister! *raises hand*
No problems. A lot of people don't realize that men actually have the same structure as female breasts. The only reason women get breasts is because we get more of the hormones that produce those sex characteristics. If men were given the same hormones they would also produce breasts. In fact, men can actually lactate like women because they do possess mammary glands.
Also human body/desigh is based of the female template
I will reunite Varric and Bianca even if I have to raze Thedas to the ground!
Food for thought, if I sign up to a dating site, I would like to know the that the person in the picture is not creating a false impression
It would be dishonest not letting me know, especially when my sexual orientation is clearly known.
Am I to blame for assuming that the relationship I was getting into would not meet my expectation ... No.
Sure, but if I meet you in a coffee shop, I'm not going to tell you my orientation, am I? You might know that I'm into guys if I'm flirting with you, but you won't know I'm also into women unless I say so, and why should I tell you that on the first interaction?
But flip it around: if you're trans, are you going to tell somebody you just met that you are trans, knowing that many people turn aggressive and violent when confronted with that? Wouldn't you wait until you felt like this person was "safe" to be around, and that they were somebody you could trust?
We're talking about Josephine (Scribbles.)
My favorite NPC romance was Aveline/Donnic. She was adorable in that whole arc
I don't think that it's objectifying when you consider that of the likely non-LI men, Blackwall is old and potentially dying, Cole is a revenant, and Varric is taken; all their reasons are external, nothing to do with just not being interested in or being somehow above romance. It also seems to imply that being romanceable is some type of strike against the companion in question, and I don't see that at all.
Not a strike against that companion, no, just the fact that having every single woman who gets close to you open to a romantic/sexual relationship with you, the hero, feels kind of contrived to me. I would say the same thing if every single male were available. I don't know... like I said, it wouldn't bother me overly much, it would just be a bit weird to me. And I rather like the idea of, as Cameron put it, I believe, some of the character having 'no time for your business.' Not that i won't be disappointed if that character is someone I want as an LI, mind you, but when in DA2 Aveline completely ignored my attempts to flirt with her, and Varric told me he wasn't into humans, it made me feel more like I was dealing with real people in my party, instead of characters pandering to whatever fantasy I might project onto them.
Just to be clear, I'm not trying to insult anyone here, I'm just trying to relay my personal feelings, which some other posters I've seen on here seem to share. There's a part of me that would be ecstatic of all the companions could be love interests to all genders, because everyone would get what they want, but it certainly wouldn't feel realistic.
Give the trans stuff a break make a new thread if you want to talk about it. This is a romance thead get back on topic.
I can see Varric being the star of a sicom honestly.
We'll call it: "All of My Chest Hairs".
The real question is whether Varric is romancable.
This thread is moving really fast, so I don't know if it's been said, but Mae does not have breasts. When she's captured in the comic, you see her with her clothing all shredded and she has a physically male form. Her shape is enhanced by the cut of her dresses.
But that's totally meaningless! That doesn't tell you anything about the person, and doesn't change anything either.
I don't get how this doesn't reinforce gender roles. You're saying instead of people doing whatever they want regardless of their gender, they should swap genders based on what they want to do.
They can. Most states have laws in place to allow those who are transgendered to have their IDs and names changed to reflect their gender. That's huge because they can then be identified as a woman even on things such as state ids, licenses, and passports. Most cases it requires you to be on hormone therapy for x amount of time while also accustoming yourself to your life as your gender.
What's yours?
It's been said before but Josie/Sera is a must have ship.
Josie is optimistic and Sera is fun, the perfect ingredients for a playful relationship 
Not a strike against that companion, no, just the fact that having every single woman who gets close to you open to a romantic/sexual relationship with you, the hero, feels kind of contrived to me.
But that's not the case. At least one will always be unavailable to you, be she Cassandra or Sera.
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