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[Solas]

I'm hoping Solas makes the cut.

[Vegeta 77]

I think bioware will announce 3 options at Gaymer x viv and blackwall or bull.

[Sporothrix]

Isn't that how most people define their own sexuality, by what genitalia they like on their sexual partner?

 

I can't imagine the average lesbian having sex with a pre-op transwoman.

 

You don't see other person's genitals most of the time. I think it's about other secondary sex characteristics first and foremost.

 

Take a look at Devon who was on Katie Couric's show:

 

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=wezpHyP5VuI

 

I am lesbian, and I find her sexually attractive. Honestly, I don't think about her genitals (she's pre-op) while saying it.

[Palidane]

Ok so back on the topic of romance. who do you guys think  is going to have the most interesting romance arc? *is it even called a romance arc?*

I think that's going to be hard to separate from the normal companion arc. A companion could have a really interesting story that romance adds nothing too.

[Freedheart]

I'm not sure about it being sexist - sorry if that's not the word that was used - having all of the females be LIs.  Since there are so many more men than women in your companion/advisor pool, as it were, it seems unfair to men to have less options...making Vivienne unavailable would add to that disparity.  Plus, I'd love to see what's beneath those fabulous outfits...  I may need to quit my job, 8 play throughs BW, really?!?!  *melodramatic sigh*

[DeusGoddess5010]

I think Blackwall especially would have made a really interesting, unconventional female character. I wish they'd have gone that way, but I think Vivienne will be an LI, anyway. Honestly, I think they maybe didn't even realize it would bother people.

Kinda see it that way to,Blackwall maybe not so much of a love interest or once again maybe varric

[Ryzaki]

I think Blackwall especially would have made a really interesting, unconventional female character. I wish they'd have gone that way, but I think Vivienne will be an LI, anyway. Honestly, I think they maybe didn't even realize it would bother people.

 

Well we did get the whole focused on duty thing with Aveline but still I'd preferred that to another male.

 

They probably didn't. Ah well. I'll get over it

[Lady Nuggins]

I'm not sure about it being sexist - sorry if that's not the word that was used - having all of the females be LIs.  Since there are so many more men than women in your companion/advisor pool, as it were, it seems unfair to men to have less options...making Vivienne unavailable would add to that disparity.  Plus, I'd love to see what's beneath those fabulous outfits...  I may need to quit my job, 8 play through BW, really?!?!  *melodramatic sigh*

 

The part that's sort of sexist is the fact that there are fewer female companions to begin with.  Few women + all women are love interests = questionable.

 

But this is the party that we have, and I still want Vivienne to be romanceable, even if that means that all the female companions are LIs. 

[Fialka]

I'm going to assume for now that there wont be a gender imbalance based on David Gaider's comments that seemed to say all real world groups (gender/sexuality) would get equal options, but you may get less based on the gender/race combo you chose. My impression is that there will be equal options for everyone by real world standards, but depending on the race/gender you pick, you may have less options due to LIs being gated off from you. He said it was "all over the map" in that respect and I think that's likely because the two LIs (which I'm going to guess are Vivienne and IB for now) will be gated for different races.

 

That's just my interpretation of what was said, though, and some people don't agree. I fully acknowledge I could be wrong, but that's what I'm sticking with for now.  

Was it 'equal options', or just 'options'  ?  Also, it's DaGaider, so you have to be careful   

 

Not trying to argue, at all, I'm absolutely inclined to agree with you!  It's just i remember the devs saying they made characters LI's because it fit their story or character, not to fit into some even ratio.  Which is why I'm so on the fence with Varric, because for story reasons, he could go either way... Personally, I'd love to see the Bianca thing resolved, one way or another, so he can find peace (regardless of the conclusion).  Whether or not the writers felt they could move from that to him being open to a new relationship is anybody's guess.  But, I could find reasons for any of the remaining potential romances to not be romances for story reasons, if I speculate enough... which is why my final grand conclusion is..... *cue suspenseful music* I have no idea!

 

Except... I want Solas.  That is all 

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Well we did get the whole focused on duty thing with Aveline but still I'd preferred that to another male.

 

They probably didn't. Ah well. I'll get over it

Aveline and Cassandra are both female warriors, but they both fall into the uptight, by the books stereotype that warrior women often do. Blackwall seems more boisterous and uninhibited. You almost never see that in a female character. 

[javeart]

i'm hoping the bull will with the whole Qun thing.

 

Hope not  I've accepted that he's going to be an LI, and not very thrilled about it, but please, I hope at least that his romance it's more about fun and drinking and wild sex than about the Qun. And I know one thing doesn't exclude the other, but I want only the fun 

[Ryzaki]

Aveline and Cassandra are both female warriors, but they both fall into the uptight, by the books stereotype that warrior women often do. Blackwall seems more boisterous and uninhibited. You almost never see that in a female character. 

 

Oooh good point.

 

The part that's sort of sexist is the fact that there are fewer female companions to begin with.  Few women + all women are love interests = questionable.

 

But this is the party that we have, and I still want Vivienne to be romanceable, even if that means that all the female companions are LIs. 

Yeah I was fine with the few female companions at first because I assumed they weren't all LIs. Now that they might be it's just.... "really?"

 

 

Hope not  I've accepted that he's going to be an LI, and not very thrilled about it, but please, I hope at least that his romance it's more about fun and drinking and wild sex than about the Qun. And I know want thing doesn't exclude the other, but I want only the fun 

 

I want both tho D: the dramaz can be balanced by the fun :3
 

That's better than just angst angst angst all the damn time.

[Ninjasplaycardgames2]

My favorite NPC romance was Aveline/Donnic. She was adorable in that whole arc

Guardsman... ://3

[HuldraDancer]

Hope not  I've accepted that he's going to be an LI, and not very thrilled about it, but please, I hope at least that his romance it's more about fun and drinking and wild sex than about the Qun. And I know want thing doesn't exclude the other, but I want only the fun 

 

Who says it can't have both? I'd love his romance to have both wild sex and drinking fun and some qun drama on the side, after all he is struggling with his beliefs and a romance with the PC would only add to that struggle.

[Xilizhra]

Aveline and Cassandra are both female warriors, but they both fall into the uptight, by the books stereotype that warrior women often do. Blackwall seems more boisterous and uninhibited. You almost never see that in a female character. 

Ashley in Mass Effect had some of that.

[Ianamus]

Aveline and Cassandra are both female warriors, but they both fall into the uptight, by the books stereotype that warrior women often do. Blackwall seems more boisterous and uninhibited. You almost never see that in a female character. 

 

Jack from Mass Effect?

 

If your sole reason for saying that Blackwall is boisterous and uninhibited is that single piece of concept art, Sera also qualifies. 

[Ninjasplaycardgames2]

Oooh good point.

 

Yeah I was fine with the few female companions at first because I assumed they weren't all LIs. Now that they might be it's just.... "really?"

 

You're not obligated to romance any of them so why is that a problem? 

[Ryzaki]

You're not obligated to romance any of them so why is that a problem? 

 

It doesn't matter that it's not an obligation. The few amount of females and them all being romanceable to me suggests that they're only female for that purpose. True or not that's the impression it gives me.

[javeart]

Oooh good point.

 

Yeah I was fine with the few female companions at first because I assumed they weren't all LIs. Now that they might be it's just.... "really?"

 

 

 

I want both tho D: the dramaz can be balanced by the fun :3
 

That's better than just angst angst angst all the damn time.

 

 

 

Who says it can't have both? I'd love his romance to have both wild sex and drinking fun and some qun drama on the side, after all he is struggling with his beliefs and a romance with the PC would only add to that struggle.

 

I know we could have both, I said so (or tried to, my english fails me often  ). But i don't want both, I like fun without drama  . An honestly, as much as I don't like IB physically he seems to be the only LI from which one could expect a mostly fun romance

[BlueFlame527]

I think all of them will be and I think it will be 2 bi males and a bi female. 

Maybe. I think we might end up with:

Iron Bull being a bi race gated male

Varric/Vivienne being a race gated straight or bi LI.

Solas being the bi LI that is not race gated but we will see if he becomes a LI.

As much as I want Blackwall fans to have Blackwall as a romance option I'm just not seeing it. He just seems like the mentor type of companion, but that's just me though.

[Sporothrix]

Really if all the female companions are LIs I'm bummed. I mean Solas or Blackwall couldn't be female? (whichever is non romanceable). It kind of annoys the heck out of me and feels skeevy. It was lame in SWTOR (didn't help the males had so many mentor/student mances either) and I'm not going to like it more in DA.

 

Then maybe we should focus on the fact that there are twice as much male than female companions, not on trying to make situation of lesbians particularly bad in this outcome, if Vivienne is not romanceable.

 

Besides, if she's not romanceable, then the only WOC (if I get this correctly, Josephine is Antivian, which is equivalent of Spaniard, so actually she's white, just has darker skin tone) is the only woman that is not romanceable, which would be problematic as well.

[JadePrince]

Oooh good point.

 

Yeah I was fine with the few female companions at first because I assumed they weren't all LIs. Now that they might be it's just.... "really?"

 

 

 

I want both tho D: the dramaz can be balanced by the fun :3
 

That's better than just angst angst angst all the damn time.

 

If they were all straight women, I'd feel more skeeved about it, because then it would seem that they were just objects for straight male players to acquire. But at least one of them is gay, and at least one is bisexual, and I can't be too critical of making them all (well, except for Leliana) potential LIs since I feel like I'd be punishing the lesbian players too.

[Ryzaki]

I know we could have both, I said so (or tried too, my english fails me often  ). But i don't want both, I like fun without drama  . An honestly, as much as I don't like IB physically he seems to be the only LI from one could expect a mostly fun romance

 

I think Sera's probably the best chance for that. Once they mentioned him being torn between the two worlds I doubted that

[HuldraDancer]

I know we could have both, I said so (or tried too, my english fails me often  ). But i don't want both, I like fun without drama  . An honestly, as much as I don't like IB physically he seems to be the only LI from one could expect a mostly fun romance

 

Ah my apologies then for my misunderstanding. I doubt we'll get a romance with all fun and no drama this is Bioware after all

 

I admit while I dislike drama drama drama everywhere I like some drama sprinkles on my romance fun icecream but just a few x3

[In Exile]

Aveline and Cassandra are both female warriors, but they both fall into the uptight, by the books stereotype that warrior women often do. Blackwall seems more boisterous and uninhibited. You almost never see that in a female character. 

 

Cassandra just stabs books. I'm not sure she's good at following them.