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[Sporothrix]

 a man can believe he has turned into a woman because he altered his body, but people aren't forced to think the same, they are free to think the opposite and to choose to avoid any love relationship with him.

 

This is classic example of transphobic views, and I don't see a reason why they should be treated with respect by devs. They should have tolerance for homophobia as well? No one would force you to romance anyone. Oh, I forgot, Anders hitting on the PC was taken as being "forced" into romancing him by some people...

[Ninjasplaycardgames2]

I get the feeling I'm missing a pop culture reference here...

If I made one I did so unintentionally :v

[xAmilli0n]

People usually relate better to situations more similar to their own. 'Tis just normal.

 

Sure.  I guess its more the all or nothing attitude of BSN.

[Sylvianus]

I can play female or male characters with different sexualities. But there are people who identify with their characters, so it shouldn't be a surprise if they aren't able to play the opposite or same gender, or same / opposite love relationships. 

[nuclearpengu1nn]

Nothing is stopping a straight male from playing as something other than a straight male character.

 

I always find it curious that others find it so difficult to do so.

I always play male character because I want to immerse myself in the game. One of the reasons why I always play human in RPGs even though there's many other races too choose from.

[jtav]

I have to say I would gladly trade Sera and IB for Cass and Dorian. I haven't decided if they're worth a cross-gender playthrough or if I should just bounce between Cullen and Josephine.

[xAmilli0n]

No, nothing is stopping them.  I'm a straight female and I played mostly as a male Hawke in DA2 because the romances for straight females were so dismal (I did both of them anyway though).  However, it is also true that my overall enjoyment of DA2 was significantly lower because I couldn't play a straight female in a romance I enjoyed.  My enjoyment of ME1 was much less for similar reasons (actually for both genders - all those LIs were vanilla).  

 

I always play male character because I want to immerse myself in the game. One of the reasons why I always play human in RPGs even though there's many other races too choose from.

 

I understand.  I just can't relate at all.

[Grieving Natashina]

 

Why are folks worried about getting forced into a romance, even with a trans* character?  With Origins and the ME series, sure ninjamancing was a problem, but they added that nice shiny heart/flirt prompt to prevent that.  

 

Like some of the other posters, I'd rather have it revealed as a part of the friendship should the DA team ultimately choose the route of a trans* LI in the future.  However, anyone that thinks the DA team is going to force a romance with a trans* when they've been trying not to force romance anywhere else is simply wrong.

[Xilizhra]

Why are folks worried about getting forced into a romance, even with a trans* character?  With Origins and the ME series, sure ninjamancing was a problem, but they added that nice shiny heart/flirt prompt to prevent that.  

 

Like some of the other posters, I'd rather have it revealed as a part of the friendship should the DA team ultimately choose the route of a trans* LI in the future.  However, anyone that thinks the DA team is going to force a romance with a trans* when they've been trying not to force romance anywhere else is simply wrong.

Because for some, the very idea of there being a transsexual LI will be considered "forced."

 

I don't mind quite so much, actually. Such customers will be well lost.

[Vapaa]

 

Why are folks worried about getting forced into a romance, even with a trans* character?  With Origins and the ME series, sure ninjamancing was a problem, but they added that nice shiny heart/flirt prompt to prevent that.  

 

Like some of the other posters, I'd rather have it revealed as a part of the friendship should the DA team ultimately choose the route of a trans* LI in the future.  However, anyone that thinks the DA team is going to force a romance with a trans* when they've been trying not to force romance anywhere else is simply wrong.

 

People like to scare themselves.

[Sylvianus]

 

Why are folks worried about getting forced into a romance, even with a trans* character?  With Origins and the ME series, sure ninjamancing was a problem, but they added that nice shiny heart/flirt prompt to prevent that.  

 

Like some of the other posters, I'd rather have it revealed as a part of the friendship should the DA team ultimately choose the route of a trans* LI in the future.  However, anyone that thinks the DA team is going to force a romance with a trans* when they've been trying not to force romance anywhere else is simply wrong.

 

Nobody is worried about that. Someone has said that he would be fine with a trans -romance, so long he knows the character is one before the romance happens, and some people got angry about that as if it was illegetimate, which isn't. 

[Xilizhra]

Nobody is worried about that. Someone has said that he would be fine with a trans -romance, so long he knows the character is one before the romance happens, and some people got angry about that as if it was illegetimate, which isn't. 

Certain motivations behind it are frequently illegitimate.

 

That said, I'm fine with it, provided the option to turn them down will have nothing to do with being trans.

[DeusGoddess5010]

 

Why are folks worried about getting forced into a romance, even with a trans* character?  With Origins and the ME series, sure ninjamancing was a problem, but they added that nice shiny heart/flirt prompt to prevent that.  

 

Like some of the other posters, I'd rather have it revealed as a part of the friendship should the DA team ultimately choose the route of a trans* LI in the future.  However, anyone that thinks the DA team is going to force a romance with a trans* when they've been trying not to force romance anywhere else is simply wrong.

People have different sexualities and taste, nothing more or less

[Saberchic]

Certain motivations behind it are frequently illegitimate.

 

That said, I'm fine with it, provided the option to turn them down will have nothing to do with being trans.

Why must the option to turn them down having nothing to do with them being trans? A very polite rejection stating why would be fine. As long as it isn't like the Anders thing, it should be fine. Shepard turned people down, and Shep could be hostile or not about it.

[nuclearpengu1nn]

 

Why are folks worried about getting forced into a romance, even with a trans* character?  With Origins and the ME series, sure ninjamancing was a problem, but they added that nice shiny heart/flirt prompt to prevent that.  

 

Like some of the other posters, I'd rather have it revealed as a part of the friendship should the DA team ultimately choose the route of a trans* LI in the future.  However, anyone that thinks the DA team is going to force a romance with a trans* when they've been trying not to force romance anywhere else is simply wrong.

 

I think ppl are reasoning from that time in DA2 where Anders flirts with you and if you reject him(whether female or male) you get rivalry points. I think thats why ppl may think they are being forced to romance him because if they dont want him as a rival companion then they would need to not reject him.

[Ninjasplaycardgames2]

Certain motivations behind it are frequently illegitimate.
 
That said, I'm fine with it, provided the option to turn them down will have nothing to do with being trans.

Why not?

[Riosred2]

Cullen all the way. I loved Alistair and didn't really fall for anyone in DA2 - none of them appealed to me so I am thrilled that they included so many options this time around - particularly someone as awesome as Cullen...

[xAmilli0n]

I think ppl are reasoning from that time in DA2 where Anders flirts with you and if you reject him(whether female or male) you get rivalry points. I think thats why ppl may think they are being forced to romance him because if they dont want him as a rival companion then they would need to not reject him.

 

Which in the grand scheme of things really didn't affect anything.

[Grieving Natashina]

Because for some, the very idea of there being a transsexual LI will be considered "forced."

 

I don't mind quite so much, actually. Such customers will be well lost.

Heh, I can see that.  Oh and agreed to the second part.

 

@All Thanks for the answers guys.  At least I know where that idea was sort of coming from.

[Saberchic]

I think ppl are reasoning from that time in DA2 where Anders flirts with you and if you reject him(whether female or male) you get rivalry points. I think thats why ppl may think they are being forced to romance him because if they dont want him as a rival companion then they would need to not reject him.

Not necessarily. The shutdown was pretty hostile. There should have been a polite rejection option.

[Grieving Natashina]

Not necessarily. The shutdown was pretty hostile. There should have been a polite rejection option.

That was my problem with that scene, not that Anders hit on me as a male Hawke.  There was no need for them to make Hawke sound like a douche about it.   They could have given him a nicer answer to give to Anders. 

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

 
Why are folks worried about getting forced into a romance, even with a trans* character?  With Origins and the ME series, sure ninjamancing was a problem, but they added that nice shiny heart/flirt prompt to prevent that.  
 
Like some of the other posters, I'd rather have it revealed as a part of the friendship should the DA team ultimately choose the route of a trans* LI in the future.  However, anyone that thinks the DA team is going to force a romance with a trans* when they've been trying not to force romance anywhere else is simply wrong.

BW seemingly can't win, people complained about ninjamancing characters accidentally so the heart icons appeared to solve that problem only for people to b*tch about the heart icons making romances "too easy" to begin

[Sporothrix]

People have different sexualities and taste, nothing more or less

 

In the post you liked, the sole issue was based on transphobic sentiments, it had nothing to do with sexual orientation (since the argument was basically about being "tricked" into feeling attraction to such character), but with belief that trans woman is a man, and trans man - a woman.