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[Kirie]

So another round of predictions:

 

Straight

 

Cassandra

Cullen

 

Gay

 

Dorian

Sera

 

Bisexual

 

Josephine

Solas

Iron Bull

Vivienne

 

With IB and Viv gated.

I agree so hard with this list. (This is my dream scenario for LI choices, so take that as you will xD )

[daveliam]

I think that's splitting hairs. The romances with Samara and Kelly are carried over to ME3, and Liara has her own DLC where her romance is continued. Kaidan and Ashley are debatable, I guess, but with Liara alone it is already NOT equal.

 

I tend to use the "unlocks the romance achievement" criteria for games where it's applicable, so it avoids the "Juhani" issue that is being discussed right now.  If they unlock the romance achievement, then they are a romance.  If not, then they aren't.  It's pretty objective and reasonable. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

The post I responded to was talking about the gender of the love interests themselves, not who they were available for.

Hence me deleting it. Though they don't grant Paramour achievement, so don't count. 

[Who Knows]

Hence me deleting it. Though they don't grant Paramour achievement, so don't count.

I tend to use the "unlocks the romance achievement" criteria for games where it's applicable, so it avoids the "Juhani" issue that is being discussed right now.  If they unlock the romance achievement, then they are a romance.  If not, then they aren't.  It's pretty objective and reasonable.

The paramour achievement is unlocked for Liara in her DLC, is it not?

[Grieving Natashina]

 

I'd also like to point out to all of the people who are saying that Vivienne must be an LI because they would never split them unevenly that many people said the same thing back when we were speculating companions.  "There's no way that they will have only 3 female companions out of 9."  Look how that turned out.

Count me as one of those people that said that and I'm still eating my words.  So it's probably best to assume nothing about the romances past the idea that every orientation getting at least two choices.  Anything else could be setting us up for failure.

 

This was me after the 6:3 gender split was confirmed:

 

Spoiler

[Saberchic]

I was pointing out DAO wasn't the only game, so my point stands. 

The other Bioware teams seem to treat romances differently than the DA team. If you look at DAO and DA2, they are evenly split. If you buy Sebastian's dlc, then DA2 becomes uneven.

[MisterShine]

They haven't been fair to lesbian players in DAO ...

 

They shouldn't be fair. They should be good.

 

 

I tend to use the "unlocks the romance achievement" criteria for games where it's applicable, so it avoids the "Juhani" issue that is being discussed right now.  If they unlock the romance achievement, then they are a romance.  If not, then they aren't.  It's pretty objective and reasonable. 

 

So before Mass Effect, Bioware games didn't have romances at all? What purpose does that criteria serve.

[HuldraDancer]

If Blackwall is voiced by Neeson (which would be awesome) it would kill any desire I have to romance him since I've played FO3 to a point where I hear him speaking and just think of James now xD

[Slukers]

We should also remember, David Gaider said things wouldn't be equal for everyone, as romances are not "candy to be evenly distributed"

[pallascedar]

So thier is no such thing as male or female or in terms of human physiology men dont poroduce sperm and females are not the ones that give birth? I think am more focused on the sex role bio then the side effects of hormones and brain fucntion

 

Biologically speaking, sex is more or less simple to define. If you produce small motile sex cells, you're biologically male, if you produce larger mostly immobile sex cells, you're biologically female. Some people and organisms produce both and thus are defined as being both biologically.

 

Gender is much more difficult to define.

[CuriousArtemis]

Here's what I'm hoping for the final three:

 

Vivienne, bi, and she can be race-gaited I suppose

Blackwall, bi, no race-gaiting

Bull, bi, race-gaiting, not dwarves

 

This is merely the "would please Artemis greatly" list. And is therefore the most important list.

[General TSAR]

We should also remember, David Gaider said things wouldn't be equal for everyone, as romances are not "candy to be evenly distributed"

My respect for Gaider has increased....slightly. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Count me as one of those people that said that and I'm still eating my words.  So it's probably best to assume nothing about the romances past the idea that every orientation getting at least two choices.  Anything else could be setting us up for failure.

 

This was me after the 6:3 gender split was confirmed:

 

Spoiler

Always assume the worst. That way you are never disappointed. 

[Zellya]

 

DLC for Dragon Age 2 matters.

 

So nope.

 

Samara rejects you, doesn't she? How is that a romance? xD

 

Also, Sebastian is hard to count as a proper romance in my book. Idk. There's some implied stuff there at the most, but it seemed more like a flirt to me. He didn't seem to get the same romance budget as the official romance options, and I don't believe Bioware even counts him when they reference the number of LIs in DA2 

[SurelyForth]

If Varric is a straight, gated romance for female dwarves only, and Vivienne is bi, then that means that gay male dwarves will have literally one option for LI (assuming IB is gated such that only dwarves are excluded...if he's qunari only, then straight female human/elves and gay male human/elves/dwarves would only have a single LI...and in the women's case, her single LI is an adviser). 

[LiaraShepard]

We should also remember, David Gaider said things wouldn't be equal for everyone, as romances are not "candy to be evenly distributed"

 

He said that after race gating with announced. So I think it refers to it (and not gender sexuality distribution).

[Black Jimmy]

Solas.

Who's he voiced by?

[Grieving Natashina]

Always assume the worst. That way you are never disappointed. 

Easy enough, I'm a Varricmancer.  I expect to be disappointed.  

 

 

Who's he voiced by?

Just glance at the title for the Solas thread.  

[Ryzaki]

Count me as one of those people that said that and I'm still eating my words.  So it's probably best to assume nothing about the romances past the idea that every orientation getting at least two choices.  Anything else could be setting us up for failure.

 

This was me after the 6:3 gender split was confirmed:

 

Spoiler

 

Yep. I was one of those stupid enough to believe they wouldn't have pretty much every main female romance able because there were so few female companions and would have up to 6 Lis. Ha. hahaha.

 

...

[Saberchic]

If Varric is a straight, gated romance for female dwarves only, and Vivienne is bi, then that means that gay male dwarves will have literally one option for LI (assuming IB is gated such that only dwarves are excluded...if he's qunari only, then straight female human/elves and gay male human/elves/dwarves would only have a single LI...and in the women's case, her single LI is an adviser). 

This is all getting so complicated... it's making my head spin.

[Sporothrix]

They shouldn't be fair. They should be good.

 

 

Elaborate, because I can't see how being unfair to lesbian players is good.

[Gannayev of Dreams]

Samara rejects you, doesn't she? How is that a romance? xD

 

Also, Sebastian is hard to count as a proper romance in my book. Idk. There's some implied stuff there at the most, but it seemed more like a flirt to me. He didn't seem to get the same romance budget as the official romance options, and I don't believe Bioware even counts him when they reference the number of LIs in DA2 

 

She technically does.  Though... Citadel DLC in ME3 sort of explores a bit more of it.  It never counts as a proper romance, from a gameplay perspective, but...

[Who Knows]

Samara rejects you, doesn't she? How is that a romance? xD

Rejects you only to accept you in ME3.

 

Even if Samara and Kelly don't count for some reason, there's Liara. I have a very hard time to thinking that Liara isn't a romance in ME2 because an achievement may or may not be unlocked for her.

 

Also, Sebastian is hard to count as a proper romance in my book. Idk. There's some implied stuff there at the most, but it seemed more like a flirt to me. He didn't seem to get the same romance budget as the official romance options, and I don't believe Bioware even counts him when they reference the number of LIs in DA2

Is it the lack of a sex scene or kiss scene? They are Bioware romances that are commonly accepted as romances that don't have one or the other, or even both. I think it's being too narrow to deny they are romances because there's no fade to black sex scene or something.

[pallascedar]

Count me as one of those people that said that and I'm still eating my words.  So it's probably best to assume nothing about the romances past the idea that every orientation getting at least two choices.  Anything else could be setting us up for failure.

 

This was me after the 6:3 gender split was confirmed:

 

Spoiler

 

I was saying it too. Such wrongness .

[Xilizhra]

Count me as one of those people that said that and I'm still eating my words.  So it's probably best to assume nothing about the romances past the idea that every orientation getting at least two choices.  Anything else could be setting us up for failure.

 

This was me after the 6:3 gender split was confirmed:

 

Spoiler

That's not as bad as it seems, really, given the advisers. As their budget has been just as high as that of the companions, and since Cole is more of a genderless spirit inhabiting a male corpse, the ratio is more like 6:5.