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#12401
Sporothrix

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"Theory". If they're just trying to make 'X' number of romances, there will always be throwaway ones. They should make them interesting and distinct. Race, gender, sexuality... whatever works best. Numbers should be irrelevant. If they decide none of their characters in DA4 make for interesting romance, don't have any. If you don't like the options presented for you "Insert-Self-MainCharacter" run, roleplay as someone else next time. 

 

 

That would be pretty telling if they put the most work to other romance projects. Lesbian players already went through that with Traynor.

 

And yeah, apparently we should just pretend to be men and everyone would be happy.



#12402
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It ended up as a fantastic romance in BG2.

 

Ha. I guess that's one way to look at it.  I never played her romance, so I was viewing it from poor Khalid's perspective. 



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Idk someone that doesnt look like and act like a puppy, or filled with stds, or looks like the dude from my chemical romance, or wears creepy looking hats. 

...so Josephine/Scribbles then? She doesn't fit any of these. 


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#12404
Grieving Natashina

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I meant currently married and not widowed like Aveline. 

Jaheira in Baldur's Gate was married and Khalid was a party member in the first game.  He dies at the beginning of the second, but there was a husband and wife duo in BioWare games before.



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Idk someone that doesnt look like and act like a puppy, or filled with stds, or looks like the dude from my chemical romance, or wears creepy looking hats. 

 

Each to their own i guess. I adored Isabela and am reasonably excited for Cass. I have no interest in Josie but she doesn't seem to be any of the things you object to about the others.



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Biologically speaking, sex is more or less simple to define. If you produce small motile sex cells, you're biologically male, if you produce larger mostly immobile sex cells, you're biologically female. Some people and organisms produce both and thus are defined as being both biologically.

 

Gender is much more difficult to define.

Male=sperm,xy

 

Female=uterus,womb,eggs,xx

 

Gender=social contruction based on sex depending on the culutre

 

Its seems like you are describing one aspect of a male and female



#12407
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She was married to Donnic in Act 3.

I found out that if you don't do Aveline's quest in Act 1, Donnic ends up hating Aveline.



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It ended up as a fantastic romance in BG2.

 

I ended up getting screamed at because I was trying to be nice and reject her gently as my half elf. :(



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I found out that if you don't do Aveline's quest in Act 1, Donnic ends up hating Aveline

Really? Wonder why, always did the quest



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I found out that if you don't do Aveline's quest in Act 1, Donnic ends up hating Aveline.

 

Don't you mean act 2? Cause act 3 is where she usually when she gets the "what a b**** remarks." if you didn't hook her up with Donnic.



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...so Josephine/Scribbles then? She doesn't fit any of these. 

I get the impression that some people are taking her "ungated bisexual" status to mean she's going to be promiscuous, like Isabela. Which is.. I'm not sure I can continue without getting my first warning post.  <_<



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And yeah, apparently we should just pretend to be men and everyone would be happy.

 

I'll be roleplaying a lesbian my first go-round in Inquisition, so we're switching if that makes you feel better. And If they want to make 8 exclusively Lesbian romances in DA4, all power to them.

 

The mechanics of that would be incredibly interesting, actually....


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#12413
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I found out that if you don't do Aveline's quest in Act 1, Donnic ends up hating Aveline.

 

You'd better back off Who Knows.  That's twice that you've corrected me and made me learn something new........ ;) :P



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Grieving Natashina

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I get the impression that some people are taking her "ungated bisexual" status to mean she's going to be promiscuous, like Isabela. Which is.. I'm not sure I can continue without getting my first warning post.  <_<

I'll fill in the blank:

 

Misguided and ignorant.   There, saved you a warning point.   ;)


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...so Josephine/Scribbles then? She doesn't fit any of these. 

 

Not really my type, sorry. I'm so freakin picky for my inquisitor  <_< I hate that.



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Ha. I guess that's one way to look at it.  I never played her romance, so I was viewing it from poor Khalid's perspective. 

 

BG2 was where i jumped in so i just saw amazing woman, that fitted with my character like a glove. So if i'd played first game i might have felt more for Khalid getting the chop.



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I get the impression that some people are taking her "ungated bisexual" status to mean she's going to be promiscuous, like Isabela. Which is.. I'm not sure I can continue without getting my first warning post.  <_<

If people think that, then they are making a HUGE assumption. Bisexual does not equal promiscuous.


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#12418
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And If they want to make 8 exclusively Lesbian romances in DA4, all power to them.

 

...I would still play that...


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Don't you mean act 2? Cause act 3 is where she usually when she gets the "what a b**** remarks." if you didn't hook her up with Donnic.

I think it was act 1 where you get to save Donnic if you do the quest.



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I get the impression that some people are taking her "ungated bisexual" status to mean she's going to be promiscuous, like Isabela. Which is.. I'm not sure I can continue without getting my first warning post.  <_<

 

Well, since she's a past friend of Leliana, I'm hoping that she's more like her.  My understanding of her romance was that she was one of the few bisexual characters who didn't fall into any of the three big "issues":  she was clearly defined as bisexual; had a preference for the same sex; and wasn't promiscuous, right?

 

I'll be roleplaying a lesbian my first go-round in Inquisition, so we're switching if that makes you feel better. And If they want to make 8 exclusively Lesbian romances in DA4, all power to them.

 

The mechanics of that would be incredibly interesting, actually....

 

I'm glad that you feel that way.  Unfortunately most people don't.  Look at the "outrage" about Dorian.  Literally ONE gay male companion ever and people are complaining about it.  Until that stuff stops, it's probably best that they continue to keep "equality" in mind so that we don't get more SWTOR nonsense.


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#12421
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Male=sperm,xy

 

Female=uterus,womb,eggs,xx

 

Gender=social contruction based on sex depending on the culutre

 

Its seems like you are describing one aspect of a male and female

 

XY and XX exists only in mammals. Not even all of them. There are species of lemmings that have subgroup of fertile females with XY genotype. Many other species already lost Y chromosome.

 

Also, women with Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome have XY chromosomes but they were always referred to as women by scientists, they definitely have female phenotype.



#12422
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Not really my type, sorry. I'm so freakin picky for my inquisitor  <_< I hate that.

Then what is your type? You keep saying what isn't, and never what is. 



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I'm glad that you feel that way.  Unfortunately most people don't.  Look at the "outrage" about Dorian.  Literally ONE gay male companion ever and people are complaining about it.  Until that stuff stops, it's probably best that they continue to keep "equality" in mind so that we don't get more SWTOR nonsense.

I want to throw Sera onto that list, with the various cries that the DA team, "took her away from the men."   :rolleyes:

 

Allan's been awesome at keeping that stuff cleaned up, but it still pops up like a zit every now and then.



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My initial response was to go "Hey man.... I didn't know it was.  And because of that, you shouldn't take it offensively because that wasn't the intent."  I tried to twist it around like I was the one being picked on (without really realizing it).  When the reality was, all I needed to do was say "Oops, I didn't realize" and stop doing it.  Because if someone says "Hey man, I find the term you're using unpleasant" I have a decision to make: "Do I want to continue using this word knowing it makes someone feel unpleasant?"  If so, why?

 

Because if your motivation is "because I want to keep using that word because I think it's the best word for it" you're saying "it's more important to me to be able to use that word to describe you than how that word makes you feel."  In some cases it's maybe appropriate (i.e. referring to someone that committed a murder as a murderer), but in the case of sexuality or race, I am less insistent on using words because I feel the reasoning behind doing so is rather selfish and unnecessary.

 

Unless I perceive a consensus among trans people that they are cool with the term "it," I see no reason to use it if people tell me that they find the term uncomfortable.  Nor do I feel that I can tell them that they shouldn't feel uncomfortable by it because that's just my privilege... I don't have the experience and negative connotations associated with it.  It's why I stopped using the term "gay" when I meant something is absurd.

 

I don't mean to be counter to the popular grain, but if it wasn't your intent to be offensive, and someone decided to be offended at the word, then they kinda did decide to pick on you. I don't know what their reaction was after you made your case, but if it was to continue to act indignitive or possibly to become more antagonistic, then I would say they were in the wrong, regardless of what word you used.

 

And while I do agree with your reasoning, about whether something is worth using simply because of preference or not and that them letting you know something was offensive did offer you a choice, I can't really see someone being offended as a good enough excuse for someone to get their way all the time because, well, being offended is pretty much a meaningless statement of emotion. Given your example, I can see why the situation might be a bit hard, it was a derogative name used during WWII, which was the period you were discussing in, and its history is quite bad. But by that same token, the person who is offended also has a choice, on of how they react to someone being offended and the expectations involved. Now, I am hoping this person who brought up being offended did the right thing and was understanding to your misunderstanding, not trying to make you feel bad and allowed bygones to be bygones. What I really hope they didn't do was demand you not just stop but also apologies, and then lorded your misunderstanding over you like it was some kind of scarlet letter.

 

And to try and illustrate my point, I will now quote a famous person whose outlook on this matter matches my own.

 

“It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so ****** what." - Stephen Fry


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