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[schall_und_rauch]

So, in one of the interviews *I forget which one* they said who you romanced in past games will be semi-important. I got the impression they meant more DAO than DA2. Does anyone else get the impression they might kill of the warden and use their LI in some revenge plot?

 

The problem I see with all of those suggestions that involve plots with a high reliance upon past decisions is that they are extremely complicated and that they are always only relevant for a minority of characters.

You need a different plot for Morrigan, Leliana, Zevran and Alistair. Then take into account that Morrigan may or may not have a kid, and that Alistair may or may not be dead, or may be married to the warden, or have the warden as consort. And if people didn't romance anybody, they won't see any of this.

That's a lot of limited content.

[LilyasAvalon]

The problem I see with all of those suggestions that involve plots with a high reliance upon past decisions is that they are extremely complicated and that they are always only relevant for a minority of characters.

You need a different plot for Morrigan, Leliana, Zevran and Alistair. Then take into account that Morrigan may or may not have a kid, and that Alistair may or may not be dead, or may be married to the warden, or have the warden as consort. And if people didn't romance anybody, they won't see any of this.

That's a lot of limited content.

 

But also a lot of reason for re-playability! :3

[AresKeith]

So, in one of the interviews *I forget which one* they said who you romanced in past games will be semi-important. I got the impression they meant more DAO than DA2. Does anyone else get the impression they might kill of the warden and use their LI in some revenge plot?

 

I don't really see them doing that on the fact that the Warden could also be dead

 

 

Assuming she wasn't outright divorced altogether. Does divorce exist in Thedas?

 

Till death do us part

[Phate Phoenix]

*still isn't over Joker*

 

AAAUUUGGGG

 

My canon Shepard actually dies forever alone because of him. That scene... in the baaaar... no really Joker you and EDI are... are so gr-great together... please... dance with her... if it makes you happpppyyyyy [DYING WHALE NOISES]

 

That said, I wouldn't mind if Varric got with Dagna if the Inquisitor doesn't romance him. As a way for the game to say, "No, really, he's over Bianca. If you want him, here's your shot!"

 

Or perhaps Varric either stays with Bianca, or gets with Dagna, or gets with the Inquisitor? Mmm, that's a lot for a romance subplot, though. No matter how manly and irresistible Varric is.

[LiaraShepard]

It's impossible to pull off something like KOTOR without making the character an amnesiac. Since people can see that coming a mile away , it's not something that's easy to repeat.Planescape Torment was arguably the best of the lot, but that's a pretty unique game.

 

yet, it was the only game I felt really special. In all other games, I got the feeling, the companions are much more important than me.

[Felya87]

Back on topic. Curious.

 

What are peoples thoughts on Varric moving on from Bianca but NOT being a romance option? Like, watching him jump into bed with Dagna.

 

my Elf and Qunari would be:  awwww!

 

my Dwarfette:  ...I need a hug.

[Gwydden]

This is the point that I was trying to make dozens of pages ago when I said that I would like a character less if they couldn't look past a particular race in this aspect.  I can understand Varric or Cullen being trepidatious around a qunari Inquisitor at first, but I would find it a character flaw if they blamed my qunari because of things that members of the Qun, who happened to be the same race as my qunari, did several years earlier.  I'm not saying that it's impossible for them to feel that way, only that it would make me like the character less because of it. 

Again, there doesn't need to be a deep ideological issue behind someone not finding attractive a physical characteristic or several a given race happens to have.

[AkiKishi]

That's one area that does not require any real detailing. You like what you like, end of story. Unless there is pre-history to indicate otherwise, 

[Luxorek]

 

 

 

Pretty much a summary of the whole BSN romance movement.

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

I DON'T THINK MY HEART COULD TAKE THAT!

Would be nice to romance IB without getting him drunk like femshep does with with Vega

[Panda]

This is the point that I was trying to make dozens of pages ago when I said that I would like a character less if they couldn't look past a particular race in this aspect.  I can understand Varric or Cullen being trepidatious around a qunari Inquisitor at first, but I would find it a character flaw if they blamed my qunari because of things that members of the Qun, who happened to be the same race as my qunari, did several years earlier.  I'm not saying that it's impossible for them to feel that way, only that it would make me like the character less because of it. 

 

Well I surely hope when they get to know my qunari better they will see that she/he isn't like the one's who are war with Tevinter or the one's who attacked Kirkwall. After all your qunari has born/raised outside of Qun as long as I know so they might have views who are very different from qunaris who follow the Qun and have raised with it, so I hope companions will notice this

[Ryzaki]

This is the point that I was trying to make dozens of pages ago when I said that I would like a character less if they couldn't look past a particular race in this aspect.  I can understand Varric or Cullen being trepidatious around a qunari Inquisitor at first, but I would find it a character flaw if they blamed my qunari because of things that members of the Qun, who happened to be the same race as my qunari, did several years earlier.  I'm not saying that it's impossible for them to feel that way, only that it would make me like the character less because of it. 

 

Same.

 

At that point it's just...thx for judging me on the basis of people I've never meet. Please don't let the door hit you on the way out.

 

If they simply weren't attracted to the race fine whatever. But if there's "because X race was mean to me so I hate them all." Oh go kick rocks.
 

[Hello-Nurse]

All bioware is doing is saying Varric might not be into human or qunari romantically. Same as people in real life have preferences in what they like in a partner. He will still be your friend and companion he just wont sleep with you. I don't understand where all this racial undertones are coming from. It just a sexual preference by a few characters. That's all.  It sounds like most wont be race restricted but it kinda makes sense for IB and Varric to be based on their size alone. If I cant romance IB unless I am a human or qunari then I will make a inquisitor that is one of those. The only way I can see it as detrimental is if they make them not like us and treat us terribly because of the race we chose, like your a human I hate them i will spend this whole game bashing humans which we know Bioware wont do.

[syllogi]

Same.

 

At that point it's just...thx for judging me on the basis of people I've never meet. Please don't let the door hit you on the way out.

 

If they simply weren't attracted to the race fine whatever. But if there's "because X race was mean to me so I hate them all." Oh go kick rocks.
 

 

Eh...up to a point, this is understandable, but if someone has been subject to multiple traumatic experiences at the hands of a certain race (or mages, or templars, since we're talking about DA), I wouldn't blame them at all if they have a hard time trusting or getting close to someone associated with that.  

 

I mean, I doubt that the racegating in DA:I will be related to terrible experiences with those races, more like those races just can't flirt with those characters, but if it were a part of a character's backstory that they just can't get past an awful history, I can't blame them.

[Ryzaki]

Eh...up to a point, this is understandable, but if someone has been subject to multiple traumatic experiences at the hands of a certain race (or mages, or templars, since we're talking about DA), I wouldn't blame them at all if they have a hard time trusting or getting close to someone associated with that.  

 

I mean, I doubt that the racegating in DA:I will be related to terrible experiences with those races, more like those races just can't flirt with those characters, but if it were a part of a character's backstory that they just can't get past an awful history, I can't blame them.

 

Except they're getting close enough to my PC to trust their life in his/her hands and my PC will most likely have to do the same at times so while understandable I just don't want to deal with it. Hopefully their will be "I don't think this is gonna work out." dialogue. Trust is a two way street and all that jazz.

 

I guess that's a YMMV situation. I mean I guess to me it just do not want at that point. My PC's probably going to be leading them to questionable places, risking all their lives and I don't want to deal with the whole "humans betrayed me so you will to cause you're humans cause all races think and act exact the same." mindset. Don't have the time or the desire. Plus for me anyway a lot of the time it comes across as wangst.

 

Even Fenris for all his grumbling about mages didn't say Hawke was a mage like everyone else therefore he must be like Danarius and Hadriana. Hell "whether you're like them remains to be seen." not the most rousing endorsement but he clearly sees a difference.

[Maria Caliban]

What horrible thing have the qunari done that would make someone not want to romance them?

Qunari tried to destroy Kirkwall, but so did everyone else, and Verric has spent time fighting for his life against every race in the game. Likewise, Cullen's big deal is against mages and abominations.

The majority of Thedas has almost no interaction with qunari.

[Dean_the_Young]

Personally the Qunari's anti-individualism and anti-family policies are more than enough to make someone who identifies with that ideology a turn off, even if I have almost no interaction with the ideology directly.

 

Some times awareness, not personal history, are more than sufficient.

[duckley]

If someone only wants to engage in a romantic relationship with someone of their own race, religion or gender, thats fine by me. Doesn't make them haters, just makes them true to their preferences, values and beliefs.

[Ryzaki]

If someone only wants to engage in a romantic relationship with someone of their own race, religion or gender, thats fine by me. Doesn't make them haters, just makes them true to their preferences, values and beliefs.

 

Again that's not my issue.

 

My issue is the whole traumatic past being used to explain it and not simply "I'm not into dwarves/qunari/whatever." the latter I have no issue with. The whole "I'm not into Qunari because X,Y,Z" meanwhile my PC has nothing to do with X,Y and Z is what'll make me pick the "Please leave and don't let the door hit you on the way out." option.

[Grieving Natashina]

Oz?

Yes.  Oh goodness yes.  That was when I was in high school.  Sorry for the delay, just got home.

 

Oh and Happy Father's Day to all you parents out there!!

[Maria Caliban]

Generally, they portray the love interests as moderately intelligent. If something bothers them, it's due to specific reasons.

Fenris hates slavery and blood mages because he's a slave who was abused by a blood mage. Anders wants to free mages because he's a mage who has been hunted and imprisoned for being a mage and then joined his spirit with that of Justice. Their anger is based on actual life experience.

A companion who hates qunari because of their philosophy and won't romance a qunari even if you don't have that philosophy isn't something we're likely to see.

[duckley]

Right now, based on what I have seen, the only female character that interests me is Sera, but I plan to play as a male, so she's out. I really hope Cassandra and or Vivienne turn out to be less annoying than they appear to me (just my personal taste).

 

If not, I wonder if Scribbles will be a LI. Oh well - I may be out of luck!

[LiaraShepard]

Right now, based on what I have seen, the only female character that interests me is Sera, but I plan to play as a male, so she's out. I really hope Cassandra and or Vivienne turn out to be less annoying than they appear to me (just my personal taste).

 

If not, I wonder if Scribbles will be a LI. Oh well - I may be out of luck!

 

they said "some" advisors are LI's, and since Leliana isn't available and Cullen is confirmed, Scribble is the only one who remains. So yes, it's strongly hinted that she'll be a love interest,

[duckley]

Again that's not my issue.

 

My issue is the whole traumatic past being used to explain it and not simply "I'm not into dwarves/qunari/whatever." the latter I have no issue with. The whole "I'm not into Qunari because X,Y,Z" meanwhile my PC has nothing to do with X,Y and Z is what'll make me pick the "Please leave and don't let the door hit you on the way out." option.

Yup I get that. I tend to agree with you - but I have met a few concentration camp survivors who could not get past that  - and honestly, when you hear their stories, I get why they feel that way and I totally respect it.