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#13726
Fizzie Panda

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OMG, that's incredible. Bisexual? And not race gated? yaaaay. God, I'm so happy right now. : D

 

hopefully Vivienne will be a bisexual LI as well.  Damnd, that's good news.

Well I'm glad you're happy! :D

 

But for realsies where is the Vivienne announcement :|



#13727
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No. It's very likely that Orlais is the most LGBT-friendly country in Thedas. As long as a lover isn't an elf or qunari, of course XD

 

Hm. True.

 

Having a Qunari lover might not be as taboo as having an elven lover though.



#13728
LilyasAvalon

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Well I'm glad you're happy! :D

 

But for realsies where is the Vivienne announcement :|

 

GaymerX is still going on, but I think Gaider or Weekes said they weren't allowed to talk about Vivienne this weekend.



#13729
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Well I'm glad you're happy! :D

 

But for realsies where is the Vivienne announcement :|

 

I tell you, I'm going to explode if she isn't a (bisexual) LI. :-/

 

But I hope Bioware won't do this to us. She'd be perfect for many reasons. And I bet she's also very story important. That's why I think we might be lucky.



#13730
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Mort...

 

Did you read my post about Bianca?  My ideas that she could be a good guy, either trying to help us with the Red Templars or otherwise passing information onto the the Inquisitor?  That only one of my ideas involved her being a bad guy in any way?

 

I'm sorry, but I never ever said that I "wanted her to be the bad guy in order to romance him."  Please don't put words in my mouth. :(

I'm sorry if that came out sounding that way. I thought I worded it clearly enough that I didn't think there was anything offensive about the theory that Bianca betrayed Varric somehow. I wasn't trying to make it seem like you were saying something rude, or put words in your mouth. I guess we had a misunderstanding somewhere? I'm just speculating on his story with Bianca right now. I'm trying to be totally civil about it. The point of my post wasn't to "prove" anything. I don't know which scenario will be true, I'm just saying I can understand the draw of both depending on what sort of relationship you want with Varric, but the friendship path seems pretty bleak if Bianca is found to have betrayed him. 



#13731
TheLastSuperSaiyan87

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I think Vivi has a good chance of being a Bi race gated romance (humans only, MAYBE elves) but I don't see her being interested in Dwarves or Qunari. 



#13732
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There's a first time for everything.

 

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#13733
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Nah, I think it'll totally be Blackwall if it's between those two. Blackwall has gotten his own fair share of hinting after all.

 

Ehhh I feel like the few things I've seen that can be referred to as "hinting" are just people just getting their hopes up over meaningless evasions/teasing the devs say, no offense.

 

I feel like it could just as easily be Solas, Varric or Blackwall in that last spot. ( Viv is the only one I'd really be surprised isn't a LI at this point )


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#13734
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Hm. True.

 

Having a Qunari lover might not be as taboo as having an elven lover though.

Qunari are feared too much to be taken lightly, elves are despised as much

I think that story-wise Vivienne prefering only humans and maybe dwarves is very logical since she wants power and influence in Orlais. She isn't going to let some elven or qunari fanboy/fangirl ruin her reputation and destroy her influence

I can understand that



#13735
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GaymerX is still going on, but I think Gaider or Weekes said they weren't allowed to talk about Vivienne this weekend.


He suggested to Caroline Livingstone that they talk about the VA, but was apparently told 'no' as he later said that BioWare marketing had a Plan. It might be just that information they're keeping from us.

:crying:


Vivienne is fabulous, isn't she. I imagine a romance with her would be grabbing a tiger by the tail.
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#13736
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I think Vivienne will definitely be a bi LI, but I'm confused about what her gates will be. I don't think they'd limit her to just humans, but why would any other one race be more acceptable? I stopped trying with race gate guesses. lol


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#13737
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 he later said that BioWare marketing had a Plan.

 

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#13738
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I'm sorry if that came out sounding that way. I thought I worded it clearly enough that I didn't think there was anything offensive about the theory that Bianca betrayed Varric somehow. I wasn't trying to make it seem like you were saying something rude, or put words in your mouth. I guess we had a misunderstanding somewhere? I'm just speculating on his story with Bianca right now. I'm trying to be totally civil about it. The point of my post wasn't to "prove" anything. I don't know which scenario will be true, I'm just saying I can understand the draw of both depending on what sort of relationship you want with Varric, but the friendship path seems pretty bleak if Bianca is found to have betrayed him. 

Hey, it's all good.  :)   And I wouldn't find the friendship path any more bleak if Bianca had betrayed him versus some of the other companion arcs in the past.  Anders with the Chantry; Morrigan's request to kill Flemeth; Fenris nearly killing his sister; Varric with his brother Bartrand; Aveline mercy-killing Wesley; Sebastian and the mess with his family; Merrill being ousted from her clan.

 

But we should probably end this here for now.  To each their own, and I know we'll find out soon enough.


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#13739
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I think Vivienne will definitely be a bi LI, but I'm confused about what her gates will be. I don't think they'd limit her to just humans, but why would any other one race be more acceptable? I stopped trying with race gate guesses. lol

 

Yeah, me too, now that we know that IB isn't gated, I'm totally stumped xD



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I think Vivienne will definitely be a bi LI, but I'm confused about what her gates will be. I don't think they'd limit her to just humans, but why would any other one race be more acceptable? I stopped trying with race gate guesses. lol

It's hard to guess since we hardly know what stories will companions have

I guess if we have two race-gated romances, it would be fair to make one female, another male and both bi. So it's either Josephina or Vivienne. Among the men? Varric, Solas and Blackwall are the only possible ones



#13741
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I think Vivienne will definitely be a bi LI, but I'm confused about what her gates will be. I don't think they'd limit her to just humans, but why would any other one race be more acceptable? I stopped trying with race gate guesses. lol

Cause many have pretty much labeled her as a person of high stance and she wants to go higher and being with races that are seen as lower citizens such as elves, dwarfs and qunari would be unacceptable. 



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I think Vivienne will definitely be a bi LI, but I'm confused about what her gates will be. I don't think they'd limit her to just humans, but why would any other one race be more acceptable? I stopped trying with race gate guesses. lol


If it's story related, it might be an aspect of her or her background we're unaware of at the moment.

Vivienne seems to have quite a few schemes. I wouldn't be surprised if she were the Morrigan or Anders of the story.

#13743
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It's hard to guess since we hardly know what stories will companions have

I guess if we have two race-gated romances, it would be fair to make one female, another male and both bi. So it's either Josephina or Vivienne. Among the men? Varric, Solas and Blackwall are the only possible ones

They said Josephine wasn't gated, so it has to be Vivienne, if it's a bisexual female.

 

It's interesting to note that Iron Bull was originally planned to be gated and they managed to work out the cinematics in time, according to con goers. So, there were 3 race gated LIs planned for a long time. When they released his profile, they still weren't sure if he'd be race gated. This makes me think that surely one female will be gated. They may plan two race gated males, but a possible 3? I think one is almost surely a female.



#13744
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They said Josephine wasn't gated, so it has to be Vivienne, if it's a bisexual female.

 

It's interesting to note that Iron Bull was originally planned to be gated and they managed to work out the cinematics in time, according to con goers. So, there were 3 race gated LIs planned for a long time. When they released his profile, they still weren't sure if he'd be race gated. This makes me think that surely one female will be gated. They may plan two race gated males, but a possible 3? I think one is almost surely a female.

Vivienne is our best bet



#13745
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Ehhh I feel like the few things I've seen that can be referred to as "hinting" are just people just getting their hopes up over meaningless evasions/teasing the devs say, no offense.

 

I feel like it could just as easily be Solas, Varric or Blackwall in that last spot. ( Viv is the only one I'd really be surprised isn't a LI at this point )

 

Possibly. But we've gotten more from him then Varric or Solas in terms of romantic teasing (Sheryl saying he's the rumproast if you're the gravy after all).

 

In terms of race gating... Varric over Blackwall, but in terms of teasing, Blackwall over Varric.

 

Poor Solas hasn't gotten a lot of attention, so it's possible they're just hiding something...



#13746
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They said Josephine wasn't gated, so it has to be Vivienne, if it's a bisexual female.
 
It's interesting to note that Iron Bull was originally planned to be gated and they managed to work out the cinematics in time, according to con goers. So, there were 3 race gated LIs planned for a long time. When they released his profile, they still weren't sure if he'd be race gated. This makes me think that surely one female will be gated. They may plan two race gated males, but a possible 3? I think one is almost surely a female.

It's still possible that one of the gender-gated LI is race-gated as well. Not my favourite scenario, but Gaider said
that some gender-race combo might have less options. If the last two are bisexual and race-gated, there won't be race-gender combo will less option. There'll be race combo with less.

#13747
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Though I'm surprised no one has suggested that Dorian or Cullen might be our race gated romance.

Cullen might be reluctant with a fem!Qunari, and Dorian for an M!Qunari. I mean, if Varric is uncomfortable about Iron Bull because of what happened in Kirkwall, it stands to reason Cullen could be as well.

 

And Dorian... do I need to explain? Though I suppose he's the least likely to give a **** actually.



#13748
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Though I'm surprised no one has suggested that Dorian or Cullen might be our race gated romance.

Cullen might be reluctant with a fem!Qunari, and Dorian for an M!Qunari. I mean, if Varric is uncomfortable about Iron Bull because of what happened in Kirkwall, it stands to reason Cullen could be as well.

 

And Dorian... do I need to explain? Though I suppose he's the least likely to give a **** actually.

Weren't there hints that Dorian and Iron Bull may find each other... interesting? It's surprising that a Tevinter magister and a qunari may like each other... but Romeo and Romeo story would be fascinating

So I doubt Dorian cares about a race



#13749
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Yeah I am starting to think the only ones who may be in trouble are the Qunari 



#13750
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Though I'm surprised no one has suggested that Dorian or Cullen might be our race gated romance.

Cullen might be reluctant with a fem!Qunari, and Dorian for an M!Qunari. I mean, if Varric is uncomfortable about Iron Bull because of what happened in Kirkwall, it stands to reason Cullen could be as well.
 
And Dorian... do I need to explain? Though I suppose he's the least likely to give a **** actually.

They talked about Dorian's and IB's relationship as not a common one since they're not the typical magister and qunari, so I don't think he'll be race gated towards qunari.