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Not with a partner of the same gender.
SInce Thedas's population seems to bounce back quite nicely in between Blights, I'm pretty sure there is plenty of hetero coupling going on.
Don't worry kiddies, the future of the human race in Thedas will be fine. Despite all those crazy bisexuals running around.
1/3 of the group is heterosexual and 2/3 are bisexual or gay. This is not a real life proportion and in a world where offspring are still m/f it is outside basic parameters. I mean, look Alistair can't even marry an elf but 2/3 of all people are into same sex relations? How does that make sense at all?
For the same reason that in my social group, 3/4ths of the people are gay or bi or trans, when those groups make up less than 10% (supposedly) of the general population. *shrug* We tend to congregate, lol.
I'm going to chime in and say that even I would find it somewhat unbelievable if 8/12 of the group were bisexual. Especially if two more were gay, leaving only two straight. However, I doubt that's the case.
Assuming the last two LIs are bisexual, that means we have at least 5/12 bisexual group members. Also assuming Leliana is still bisexual. 2/12 are gay. This means 5/12 could be straight. I don't think that's terribly unbelievable at all. It might be skewed a bit more than some think it should be, but this is where priorities come into play. I think it's more important that everyone feel equally included when it comes to the LIs.
I hope all the non-LIs are gay or bi. Just because. Screw 'realism', whatever that actually means. 
I don't have a problem believing bisexuality is simply more common in Thedas than it is in real life. There's no particular reason why the majority of people in Thedas couldn't be bisexual. It's a very slight genetic difference. There's nothing terribly hard to believe about it.
@Carebear
The DA world doesn't even conform to basic real world biology.
Elf + Qunari = Qunari
Would it? Or would they even be able to have offspring? Grey Wardens can't.
My point is just this: who cares? You could make an entire gay nation within the Dragon Age game and that would be cool. People should be able to be themselves in games and have fun and just enjoy life.
I don't care if it's unrealistic. Are you having fun playing? I think that's the point.
Not true, actually. A transman can reproduce with a cis male (and a transwoman could reproduce with a cis female).
I'm going to admit to ignorance here, so be gentle. I am not familiar with the term cis, would you be so kind as to elaborate?
For the same reason that in my social group, 3/4ths of the people are gay or bi or trans, when those groups make up less than 10% (supposedly) of the general population. *shrug* We tend to congregate, lol.
I don't have a problem believing bisexuality is simply more common in Thedas than it is in real life. There's no particular reason why the majority of people in Thedas couldn't be bisexual. It's a very slight genetic difference. There's nothing terribly hard to believe about it.
I don't care if it is hard to believe. Why shouldn't people who purchase a game feel happy and valued within the game? I don't think that person was being homophobic pointing out that in these given parameters that it seems unrealistic.
Homophobic is saying it shouldn't happen, not that they find it unrealistic, IMO.
It's unrealistic that Link never has sex with Zelda, but so what?
With all the different sexualities in the world, and how fluid sexuality can be for some, I don't find the numbers unrealistic (and I really dislike this 'unrealistic' argument, because it seems like more of a cover for some form of -phobia than a legit concern for the narrative). Especially when not everyone you meet will divulge their sexuality. You could have met/worked with/passed a ton of non-heterosexuals without ever realising it. You likely have.
Sera and Dorian are homosexual
Josephine is bisexual
Iron Bull is pansexual
Cullen and Cassandra are heterosexual
Vivienne, if she's a romance open to male and female, could be bi, pan, demisexual or even a heterosexual that finds her sexuality shifting upon meeting someone she can connect with on a level she didn't expect, and the same goes for Solas, Blackwall and Varric.
I'm going to admit to ignorance here, so be gentle. I am not familiar with the term cis, would you be so kind as to elaborate?
A cis person is someone whose gender identity matches the gender they were assigned at birth. For example, I was born a baby, and identified by doctors as a female at birth, and I continue to identify with that gender today; therefore I'm a cis female.
admitting ignorance is really brave, kudos!!
I don't have a problem believing bisexuality is simply more common in Thedas than it is in real life. There's no particular reason why the majority of people in Thedas couldn't be bisexual. It's a very slight genetic difference. There's nothing terribly hard to believe about it.
It works for Torchwood. 
I don't care if it is hard to believe. Why shouldn't people who purchase a game feel happy and valued within the game? I don't think that person was being homophobic pointing out that in these given parameters that it seems unrealistic.
Homophobic is saying it shouldn't happen, not that they find it unrealistic, IMO.
It's unrealistic that Link never has sex with Zelda, but so what?
I don't think it's unrealistic if one person doesn't have sex with another person?
Their opinion is directly harmful to LGBT people playing the game, since it would limit the amount of representation added if the devs would listen to them, so of course people that don't want that to happen should absolutely voice disagreement. It's "our game" too.
A cis person is someone whose gender identity matches the gender they were assigned at birth. For example, I was born a baby, and identified by doctors as a female at birth, and I continue to identify with that gender today; therefore I'm a cis female.
admitting ignorance is really brave, kudos!!
Thank you for the explanation. Any idea what cis stands for? Is it an acronym, a contracted word, or just a word I didn't know existed? 
I don't care if it is hard to believe. Why shouldn't people who purchase a game feel happy and valued within the game? I don't think that person was being homophobic pointing out that in these given parameters that it seems unrealistic.
Homophobic is saying it shouldn't happen, not that they find it unrealistic, IMO.
It's unrealistic that Link never has sex with Zelda, but so what?
I'm confused, are you arguing that there's potentially too many LGBT characters in the game OR that those who complain there's too many LGBT characters should stop because 'realism' doesn't matter? I feel like we might be arguing when we're actually thinking similarly?
EDIT: or are you saying that it's better to have gay, straight, and bi, rather than all bisexual?
Thank you for the explanation. Any idea what cis stands for? Is it an acronym, a contracted word, or just a word I didn't know existed?
Cis means "on the same side" and trans means "on the other side". I believe the words are Latin (or have Latin etymology).
I don't care if it is hard to believe. Why shouldn't people who purchase a game feel happy and valued within the game? I don't think that person was being homophobic pointing out that in these given parameters that it seems unrealistic.
Homophobic is saying it shouldn't happen, not that they find it unrealistic, IMO.
It's unrealistic that Link never has sex with Zelda, but so what?
Well I think the issue people had with him is that, in wanting Vivienne to be straight, it means he also wants a particular group to have less options/representation. His opinion did not take many players into consideration. It goes back to what I was saying before, if I have to choose between being realistic and being inclusive, I'm going to choose inclusive.
It's also totally fine for him to choose his personal sense of realism (despite what another poster here seems to believe, there is no right answer regarding this) over being inclusive. And totally possible for him to be a gay male who makes this choice as well. It just might not be that important to him. I felt kind of bad for him because he didn't seem antagonistic with his opinion at all, even though I disagree.
Thank you for the explanation. Any idea what cis stands for? Is it an acronym, a contracted word, or just a word I didn't know existed?
It's a Latin prefix meaning something like 'this side' or 'this side of', so it was probably taken from there like most of our words, but generally people use cis shortened from cisgender or cissexual. Wiki can give you basic information on those terms too.
Latin minor strikes again. I told you I could apply it outside of reading ancient texts, Mum.
Cis means "on the same side" and trans means "on the other side". I believe the words are Latin (or have Latin etymology).
Interesting. Thank you. I do enjoy that I can still learn things at my age.
Interesting. Thank you. I do enjoy that I can still learn things at my age.
You're welcome I never expected to bust out random chemistry knowledge on the Bioware Forums haha.
This is why it's important for inclusion in the fantasy genre. People have gotten used to magical fireballs being thrown around, but as soon as LGBT people show up, suddenly it's unrealistic.
Pretty much THIS.
I don't think it's unrealistic if one person doesn't have sex with another person?
Their opinion is directly harmful to LGBT people playing the game, since it would limit the amount of representation added if the devs would listen to them, so of course people that don't want that to happen should absolutely voice disagreement. It's "our game" too.
How is someone saying it's unrealistic going to effect anything when the Bioware staff has dug deep in their backpacks on this and can't find any fucks to give?
Bioware is safely on the road to inclusivity. They care about presenting a game to a rabid group of fans that are loyal and appreciative. How many design teams would have gone to GaymerX and been that happy? Bioware cares and people wanting inclusivity are the majority of players.
I'm confused, are you arguing that there's potentially too many LGBT characters in the game OR that those who complain there's too many LGBT characters should stop because 'realism' doesn't matter? I feel like we might be arguing when we're actually thinking similarly?
EDIT: or are you saying that it's better to have gay, straight, and bi, rather than all bisexual?
Too many? For what? To achieve a reality within a fantasy? Maybe, but for the purpose of playing a game and enjoying it--no, no a thousand times no. Everyone (if possible) should be represented. I liked the DA: II method of playersexual. Playersexual let's bisexuals, homosexuals, and heterosexuals all have a positive gaming experience.
I realize it bothered some straight dudes that Anders "accidentally" kissed them after they used the heart icon 
but so? It's a game that made everyone feel happy insofar as relationship potential, if not scenery.
This is an escape from reality, so it doesn't have to be real. It should be fun.
How is someone saying it's unrealistic going to effect anything when the Bioware staff has dug deep in their backpacks on this and can't find any fucks to give?
Bioware is safely on the road to inclusivity. They care about presenting a game to a rabid group of fans that are loyal and appreciative. How many design teams would have gone to GaymerX and been that happy? Bioware cares and people wanting inclusivity are the majority of players.
Well, it's a discussion forum, so generally the way it goes is that one presents their opinion and others either agree or disagree. It seems like we are mostly in agreement, though, so I don't see a reason to further hash out this issue.
Well I think the issue people had with him is that, in wanting Vivienne to be straight, it means he also wants a particular group to have less options/representation. His opinion did not take many players into consideration. It goes back to what I was saying before, if I have to choose between being realistic and being inclusive, I'm going to choose inclusive.
It's also totally fine for him to choose his personal sense of realism (despite what another poster here seems to believe, there is no right answer regarding this) over being inclusive. And totally possible for him to be a gay male who makes this choice as well. It just might not be that important to him. I felt kind of bad for him because he didn't seem antagonistic with his opinion at all, even though I disagree.
He claimed to be "x."
They always conveniently claim to be "x."
I just have no patience for the "But it's unrealistic" crap at this point, no matter who it's coming from, so whatevs.
He claimed to be "x."
They always conveniently claim to be "x."
I just have no patience for the "But it's unrealistic" crap at this point, no matter who it's coming from, so whatevs.
Yes, but you twerk. That makes you...suspect. *suspicious eyes*
LOOOOOOOL
And ain't nobody gonna stop me.
*Twerks enthusiastically*
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