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[Grieving Natashina]

Would the circumstances be more amenable if Anders' bisexuality was presented differently, later?  Your issue is with erasure, correct?  So if other events ensured erasure didn't happen, how does the scene work?  (it's okay if it still doesn't)

If I was going to do the Anders scene involving the Karl reveal in DA2, I wouldn't have taken out the line about Karl at all.  If anything, I felt his history with Karl added a lot of depth to the scene before, when Karl was mercy-killed by either the player or Anders.  I probably would have changed a little bit of the wording so there wasn't any risk of calling Hawke by the wrong pronoun, but I would have left the scene and the conversation just the same.  

 

As it is now, since it's possible that Anders is dead (depending upon player choices,) I suppose one thing that could be done at this point, is if there is a codex for Anders, a little mention that he part of the reason why he Kirkwall to go was after his friend and lover Karl to try to help.  

 

Down the road, if a character is bisexual, I'd like a line mentioning their bisexuality to be something for both genders to hear. It shouldn't be just thrown in every time willy-nilly, but if the line is scripted for one gender to learn about a companion's romantic history, the other should too.  In a world where different sexuality is just considered part of the mortal experience, and I think if one gender learns about a character's sexual history, both should.  

[BabyFratelli]

Really? Thats unexpected. Maybe Varric has a shot after all.

 

That's the theory. Varric's thread is mostly distraught.

 

Really, everyone has a shot, I can see any of them as LI. 

[ladyofpayne]

Solas or Blackwall is going to be for women only. There is Bi man.

[Parkimus]

Solas or Blackwall is going to be for women only. There is Bi man.

 

I actually think (if either is an LI) they'll be bisexual.

[TheLastSuperSaiyan87]

with Sera being gay I'm so glad I don't mind being a female lol 

[TheodoricFriede]

That's the theory. Varric's thread is mostly distraught.

 

Really, everyone has a shot, I can see any of them as LI. 

Well i was expecting Vivienne,  Blackwall, and Solas to be the remaining romance options. Which i viewed as a very very pessimistic list.

 

Its still possible. Garrus wasnt announced as available until way way late, and people were asking for him even though he was "impossible".

[JadePrince]

Solas or Blackwall is going to be for women only. There is Bi man.

 

It's possible, I suppose, but I really really don't think that straight folks are gonna have more/extra options than anyone else this time around.

[TheLastSuperSaiyan87]

I still say Vivi will be Bi and whoever the male option is will be bi also, giving males and females 6 options each 

[Kallimachus]

 

 

How is the player supposed to know about that without meta-gaming?   He never tells the female Hawke and he certainly never talks about an attraction to men during the game outside of that instance, or to a female.  I know he's bi, but my problem is that the DA team choose to hide from a female Hawke.  It never will sit right with me. As you'll see, there is no lore reason for it at all.

 

 

See, that's where you're wrong.  It does not make sense within the context of the lore.  I'll happily dig you up the quote from World of Thedas, but same-sex relationships aren't a big deal througout most cultures.  In fact, the only country that has any sort of issue with it is Tevinter, and even then they don't care as long as it's only done with the slaves.  

 

If anything, he should have been more scared to tell a Male Hawke, if abuse was a concern or rejection was a concern.

 

 

Again, there was no reasons for the writers to do this.  Zero.  Your analogy does not work in Thedas at all.  In one of the first conversations he admits to being an abomination in front of someone he's not sure will tell the Templars  He could have made up some bs "a wizard did it excuse," and hoped for the best.  In a world where same sex relationships are treated as just a part of life (some are gay, some are straight, some are bi and it's not a big deal,) sudden fear of being rejected because of his sexuality is immersion breaking. He should have told a female Hawke about Karl and I hope BioWare never hides a bisexual man's oritientaion like that every again.  

 

By the way, it doesn't take very long at all for Isabela to talk about her past sexual history with women.  The only things I'm seeing here is a double standard that doesn't fit in with the lore; accidental bisexual male erasure; and another double standard that it's okay for women to be bisexual, but men can't.  I'm not going to headcanon something that didn't happen.  He never told a female Hawke and I'm not using headcanon for something that should have not been excluded in the first place. 

 

I think you are missing my point. It's true that in the lore there is no homophobia in Thedas, but that does not mean that issues with sexuality are not going to arise on an interpersonal level. Even if I there is no prejudice behind it, necessarily, I don't think that is something that naturally comes up in a conversation with someone you're interested in even before you had a chance to hit on them, let alone go out on a first date.

 

As for the abomination thing... well Hawke just saw Justice in action. His first sentence to Anders was "that was not regular magic you just did". Lying about something is not the same as not divulging the whole truth immediately.

 

In any case, I didn't mean to anger you. Sorry if what I said did,

[Grieving Natashina]

I'd see your point, if Isabela didn't hit on a female Hawke in one of her first conversations much like Anders, inviting her up to her room at the Hanged Man.  That was inescapable too, and made some straight ladies very uncomfortable.  It's the double standard I hated, and I hope it doesn't happen again.

 

You're okay, you didn't know you'd touched a bit of a nerve.   I'm sorry if I came off sounding snappish.   I'm chalking it up to a little tension and edginess from the current "marketing strategy" that's going on with the LI reveals.  I'm willing to call it good if you are.  

[TheLastSuperSaiyan87]

I think we are all a little on edge recently 

[Grieving Natashina]

I've been posting here only since November of last year, but I've noticed there very few times the DA:I boards ever agrees on something.  I think this is one of those times: We really want the rest of the LI reveals done.  Then we can get all the celebrating, mourning, bickering over race or gender gating out of our systems.   It'll make it easier to talk and discuss things like game play, and how all of this is going to tie into the story.  

 

Also, folks can start trying to plan what race/gender/class they are going to be.  For some, that's the hold up for them.  Finally, the longer this drags out, the more spoilers will be out there for posters to try to avoid.  I don't mind spoilers, but plenty of folks do.

[TheLastSuperSaiyan87]

I agree Bioware just need to get it out and be done with it that way we can spend the next few months talking about the actual game

[TheLastSuperSaiyan87]

I've been posting here only since November of last year,

Wow I thought you had been here longer than that, I've had my account since 2010 I just never came here I finally decided to start coming here regularly lol

[Twilight_Princess]

I've been posting here only since November of last year, but I've noticed there very few times the DA:I boards ever agrees on something.  I think this is one of those times: We really want the rest of the LI reveals done.  Then we can get all the celebrating, mourning, bickering over race or gender gating out of our systems.   It'll make it easier to talk and discuss things like game play, and how all of this is going to tie into the story.  

 

Also, folks can start trying to plan what race/gender/class they are going to be.  For some, that's the hold up for them.  Finally, the longer this drags out, the more spoilers will be out there for posters to try to avoid.  I don't mind spoilers, but plenty of folks do.

 

How everyone feels right now

 

 

[Grieving Natashina]

Wow I thought you had been here longer than that, I've had my account since 2010 I just never came here I finally decided to start coming here regularly lol

If you want to talk to one of the real forum vets, our lovely Maria has been here for several years now.  

 

@Twilight: That sums it up.  

[TheLastSuperSaiyan87]

I'm hoping all of them will be announced before the end of the month

[Kallimachus]

All This talk of "The Final LIs" sort of reminds me of the 3rd and 4th seasons of Battlestar Galactica, with "The Final Five" cylons.

[Maria Caliban]

If you want to talk to one of the real forum vets, our lovely Maria has been here for several years now.

A decade.

It kind of blows my mind whenever I think of it.

[TheTurtle]

Bioware in a gif....

 

[Andraste_Reborn]

I've been posting here only since November of last year, but I've noticed there very few times the DA:I boards ever agrees on something.  I think this is one of those times: We really want the rest of the LI reveals done.  Then we can get all the celebrating, mourning, bickering over race or gender gating out of our systems.   It'll make it easier to talk and discuss things like game play, and how all of this is going to tie into the story.  

 

I've calmed down about my own prospects since I know one of the guys I want will be available to my first Inquisitor. But it turns out watching other people fret about it isn't much more fun than fretting myself. I hope they just get it over with sooner rather than later. (Or at least give us a little more information to work with - like if the two race-gated love interests are the ones they haven't revealed yet.)

[Yinello]

I'm the type of person who is just lightly anxious at the lack of info - I just know that once we know all the LIs, I'll start sweating over the specializations.

[Lilium]

I think they need to get this over with. It's getting tiresome.

 

It seems most threads will turn into LI talk at this point, so it would be nice to get it out of the way so we can focus on other things. 

[TheLastSuperSaiyan87]

Yeah I really don't think I have seen this much hype for romance options since like Mass Effect 2 when people were wondering if Tali would be a LI

[HuldraDancer]

Bioware in a gif....

 

 

That monster! She must be burned at the stake   Go get him another cookie! 

 

*clears throat* Sorry Cookie Monster is serious business for me ^^;