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#14701
Basement Cat

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In Lady Insanity's interview David Gaider states you don't have to have sex in all romances! I know that will be really good news for some people.

Interesting. I wonder which ones will allow for that...



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Good. When I pursue a romance option, I do so for the additional story and character interaction with characters I like, not the cheesy and awkward lovemaking scene.

 

I think the animations might be much better this time around. Not saying you SHOULD sleep with the romance of your choice, of course, I just think they can only improve in this department. And it sounds like they worked their butts off to make sure the different races work well. :)



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Interesting. I wonder which ones will allow for that...

 

I think we can exclude Iron Bull. He will want sex...
 



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A decade.

It kind of blows my mind whenever I think of it.


I have to admit. After I finally came back to the forum after a couple-year hiatus, one of the first things I thought was 'Oh good, I'm glad Maria's still around.'
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#14705
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Also, folks can start trying to plan what race/gender/class they are going to be.  For some, that's the hold up for them.  Finally, the longer this drags out, the more spoilers will be out there for posters to try to avoid.  I don't mind spoilers, but plenty of folks do.

 

I am one of those types currently in planning limbo.  I have many pseudo-plans and character backgrounds pieced together, but I can't lock down on one or the order of playthroughs until I know the remaining LIs.  

 

 

In Lady Insanity's interview David Gaider states you don't have to have sex in all romances! I know that will be really good news for some people.

 

This is really neat.  I like that.  A couple of my ace friends will like knowing that too.



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what about DG picking IB as romance?  :lol:

 

well, truth is there's a moment when he says something like "out of the one already unveiled?" which might means that he'd rather go with one the remaining two. I bet it's Solas  :wub:  :ph34r:  (joking!  :P )



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what about DG picking IB as romance?  :lol:

 

well, truth is there's a moment when he says something like "out of the one already unveiled?" which might means that he'd rather go with one the remaining two. I bet it's Solas  :wub:  :ph34r:  (joking!  :P )

 

I thought that was interesting, too. Quick, what do we know about David Gaider's taste in men?!

 

(Just kidding. And it's equally possible that he'd want his character to date Vivienne so they could set everyone on fire with snark and disdain.)


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I think we can exclude Iron Bull. He will want sex...
 

 

Cassandra maybe? She doesnt strike me as the type that would end a relationship if she doesn't get laid.



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Good. When I pursue a romance option, I do so for the additional story and character interaction with characters I like, not the cheesy and awkward lovemaking scene.

Aye, a fade to black would have been just fine for the DAO scene, gah that was so damn bad! :lol:



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I thought that was interesting, too. Quick, what do we know about David Gaider's taste in men?!

 

(Just kidding. And it's equally possible that he'd want his character to date Vivienne so they could set everyone on fire with snark and disdain.)

maybe it wouldn't be varric because varric is a dwarf and we've heard dgaiders opinions on dwarfmance before afaik 

maybe it would be solas because.. he is...bald too??? dgaider certainly seemed a bit defensive of solas back when people were pooping on solas just because he is bald

 

speculation based upon thin air, oh yes, but so much fun



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Cassandra maybe? She doesnt strike me as the type that would end a relationship if she doesn't get laid.

 

Honestly I can picture anyone accepting that. I think that kind of good intentions are always believable (at least for me) coming from someone in love, because even if it seems out of character for a specific companion, well, love tends to make people do things they'd never do otherwise :lol: . Different question is how many can actually live up to that good intentions in the long term... but, well, I don't think that problem it's going to come up in the game  :P



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I think we can exclude Iron Bull. He will want sex...
 

 

That seems obvious - and yet, it also seemed obvious that he would be race-gated. Bull is just full of surprises.

 

Aye, a fade to black would have been just fine for the DAO scene, gah that was so damn bad! :lol:

 

DAO is the only game I've ever installed a nude mod for. The scenes still weren't great, but at least I didn't spend the whole time wondering where the hell Morrigan got a bra from and why she put it on just to have sex in.


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That monster! She must be burned at the stake :angry:  Go get him another cookie!  :crying:

 

*clears throat* Sorry Cookie Monster is serious business for me ^^;

 

 

That is my response to that.

 

Anyway, moving on.

 

 

In Lady Insanity's interview David Gaider states you don't have to have sex in all romances! I know that will be really good news for some people.

 

Was that the actual wording? Does this imply that sex is optional in all of them or it's going to happen in some but not in others?



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what about DG picking IB as romance?  :lol:

 

well, truth is there's a moment when he says something like "out of the one already unveiled?" which might means that he'd rather go with one the remaining two. I bet it's Solas  :wub:  :ph34r:  (joking!  :P )

 

Ha!  Very interesting.  I was probably just a clarifying question, but I do prefer to think that this means that he has some interest in one of the remaining LI's.  And, of course, that tells us absolutely nothing because we don't actually know what he thinks about the remaining characters, outside of appreciating Vivienne's snarkiness and coming to Solas' defense when he (Solas) was first attacked on the forums because of his looks.



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Ha!  Very interesting.  I was probably just a clarifying question, but I do prefer to think that this means that he has some interest in one of the remaining LI's.  And, of course, that tells us absolutely nothing because we don't actually know what he thinks about the remaining characters, outside of appreciating Vivienne's snarkiness and coming to Solas' defense when he (Solas) was first attacked on the forums because of his looks.

 

No, it definitely says nothing about the matter, but it's nice to think that has in high steam one the unveiled LIs :) (and it's nice for me to think too that it's Solas  :lol: , but that's just wishfull thinking, I admit it  :P )

 

edit: well, he surely has in high steam all the LIs, I worded that badly, but you know what I mean (I hope!)



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Was that the actual wording? Does this imply that sex is optional in all of them or it's going to happen in some but not in others?

 

Does this sound better "For some characters, you can decline sexual advances and continue the romance" ? That how's Maria noted it in her highlights.



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Does this sound better "For some characters, you can decline sexual advances and continue the romance" ? That how's Maria noted it in her highlights.

 

The Iron Bull...let us have a proper Qunari romance?

The Inqusitor kick his ass , and then The Iron Bull name him/her "kadan".



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Posted this in the GaymerX thread too, but it will probably get more attention here:

 

Ashe | Ladyinsanity @ladyinsanity

By the way, for those who want their curiosity satisfied, Iron Bull would have been the 3rd race-gated romance. There are now two. #DAI

 

I can't help but think that this means that one of the remaining LI's has to be a race-gated bisexual male.  I just cannot accept that they would have allowed gay dwarves to only have one option.  Especially after reading Gaider's quote about being okay with asking players to play as a different race/gender/sexuality to access a specific character, but not just to get equitable options.  One of the remaining LI's has got to be a male character that is available to male dwarves, right?



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Posted this in the GaymerX thread too, but it will probably get more attention here:

 

 

I can't help but think that this means that one of the remaining LI's has to be a race-gated bisexual male.  I just cannot accept that they would have allowed gay dwarves to only have one option.  Especially after reading Gaider's quote about being okay with asking players to play as a different race/gender/sexuality to access a specific character, but not just to get equitable options.  One of the remaining LI's has got to be a male character that is available to male dwarves, right?

 

I'm quite confident the remaining LIs are going to be bi, but I'm not so sure about the logic of being the ones race-gated



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One of the remaining LI's has got to be a male character that is available to male dwarves, right?

 

Not necessrily, if male dwarfs already have Dorian or Iron bull.

 

Alternatively, Cullen might very well be the one race-gated, actually I consider him to be the second-best candidate, after Vivienne.



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I'm quite confident the remaining LIs are going to be bi, but I'm not so sure about the logic of being the one race-gated

 

Yeah, the more that I think of it, I guess they don't have to be race-gated because there are other ways it could shake out with race-gating, but at least one of them does have to be open to m/m dwarf romances.

 

Not necessrily, if male dwarfs already have Dorian or Iron bull.

 

Alternatively, Cullen might very well be the one race-gated, actually I consider him to be the second-best candidate, after Vivienne.

 

Yeah, but my point is that Iron Bull was confirmed as having been race-gated (almost definitely against dwarves because of animation issues) up until very recently.  So, dwarves didn't have access to him.  Since Gaider stated that everyone would have equitable options (not even, but equitable), I can't imagine that straight lady dwarves and gay male dwarves would have had only one option available to them until they "fixed" IB.

 

So, I assume that the remaining LI's have to offer an option for straight lady dwarves and gay male dwarves.  It could be one character (i.e., a bisexual male who is open for dwarves) or a combination of the two of them (a straight guy and gay guy who are both open for dwarves --- although this seems unlikely).



#14722
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Since Gaider stated that everyone would have equitable options (not even, but equitable), I can't imagine that straight lady dwarves and gay male dwarves would have had only one option available to them until they "fixed" IB.

 

It may have been one contributing factor in why IB was "fixed?"  The lack of options for that angle.  I do think there is one more bi male LI left. Mayhaps another contributing factor is that they didn't want two of the three race-gated characters to be bi men while the lady LIs had less racegating restrictions.    



#14723
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David Gaider did say that they'd aimed to give every PC two options, and given that Iron Bull was race-gated a matter of weeks ago, that does imply that there's a dwarf-loving dude in the last two options. Which doesn't really help narrow it down any, but it's interesting.

 

Crazy theory time: maybe one of the reasons John Epler worked insane hours to get Iron Bull to be truly, uh, open for business is that one of the other, still-existing race-gated option is doesn't like dwarves? And maybe they suspected that us dwarf-lovers would be upset and post pictures of sad animals all over the place if we were denied Iron Bull and another option as well? So maybe we've got one remaining option who is male and digs dwarves and Vivienne/another dude/someone already announced that we don't know is race-gated does not like dwarves? (This is all wild theorising, of course.)



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So, I assume that the remaining LI's have to offer an option for straight lady dwarves and gay male dwarves.  It could be one character (i.e., a bisexual male who is open for dwarves) or a combination of the two of them (a straight guy and gay guy who are both open for dwarves --- although this seems unlikely).

 

 

Wait...what if the last 2 are a straight and gay male???? 0_0 After IB I expect the unexpected now.



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It may have been one contributing factor in why IB was "fixed?"  The lack of options for that angle.  I do think there is one more bi male LI left. Mayhaps another contributing factor is that they didn't want two of the three race-gated characters to be bi men while the lady LIs had less racegating restrictions.    

 

That's certainly a possibility.  I can't shake the Gaider quote about "I feel okay asking people to play a different gender/race/sexuality to romance a particular character, but not just to get equitable options" (or something to that effect).  He also stated that The Chart ™ was specifically to make sure that they didn't overlook anyone when it came to choices, so I just suspect that straight dwarf ladies and gay dwarf guys are going to be getting at least one more option.  Of course, those are probably some of the least played demographics so I don't know how many people care, but there you go!

 

Wait...what if the last 2 are a straight and gay male???? 0_0 After IB I expect the unexpected now.

 

Totally possible.  Totally improbable.  I just can't see us getting two gay guys in this game.  I mean, that would literally triple the amount of gay guys ever in Bioware romances.  I love this team, but I'd be completely gobsmacked if they did that.  I suspect a bisexual lady and a bisexual guy, to be honest.