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[ReelRipper]

I'm content with Cassandra and Josephine so I wouldn't mind if gay players got more options this time around but at the end of the day its Bioware's call so we'll see.

[Hellion Rex]

It would really put my mind at ease if this time gay guys or lesbians got more options (provided that one group gets more options).  Straight guys usually get the most options.  Straight gals got the most in DA 2.  If it went to gay guys or lesbians this time, then I'd feel less that it's "always" straight people and more like "usually" straight people and I'd be okay with that.  Just as long as we all get our turn.

I'm personally betting on the options being equal this time, but I too would prefer not to have a group get the "one extra" (though I honestly wouldn't have wanted Sebastian anyway).

[Dirgegun]

 
I have to jump in here because, gah, no. An asexual bisexual sounds like an oxymoron, but it basically gets the point across, and an asexual lesbian makes perfect sense. An asexual bisexual is a person who experiences romantic attraction to men and women but experiences no sexual attraction. An asexual lesbian is a woman who experiences romantic attraction towards other women but experiences no sexual attraction.
 
(It used to be that asexuals would use the term -romantic to describe who they were attracted to, but I think there was some controversy? I see it either way now, biromantic asexual or asexual bisexual.)

 

 
That's actually really awesome. And I'm glad that there are some romances that require sex. Probably the Iron Bull. He likes sex--he wouldn't want a partner who didn't. Now I just have to figure out which ones are down for, uh, not having sex. 

 

I tend to use Asexual but homoromantic/biromantic/hetero-romantic in such situations? Might seem less confusing?

[daveliam]

If that s the case I believe that maybe are last two options might be bisexual but then again I could be wrong and that one is a straight option for female Inquisitors. But I was surprised Iron Bull wasn't racegated so if Varric is an LI I bet he will be.

 

If one of them is a straight male and the other is a bisexual woman, then that would be 3 options each for straight guys, straight gals, and lesbians and two options for gay guys.  I'd not be thrilled, but I could live with it because I really like my options.  But it would be a little disappointing to be singled out as the least options yet again. 

 

Again, I think this is unlikely though because that would mean that gay dwarves would have had only one option prior to "fixing" IB.  I suspect that they will both be bisexual (Vivienne and one of the guys).  I guess it's also not inconceivable if it were two complementary guys (one who is only open for humans and qunari, say; and the other who is only open to dwarves and elves).  Although that would make a 5/3 gender split and would ****** a bunch of people off.

[daveliam]

I'm personally betting on the options being equal this time, but I too would prefer not to have a group get the "one extra" (though I honestly wouldn't have wanted Sebastian anyway).

 

Agreed.  I would never have romanced him anyway because I have a hard time with really devout religion.

[carlo angelo]

So, I'm just speculating here, but I've put it under a cut so as to save some eyes...

 

Spoiler

Vivienne seems like an obvious and inevitable choice, but a part of me still has some doubts because I always have a feeling there has to beat least one female who isn't romanceable, probably because she has an agenda and or is just not interested into you- Leliana doesn't count, but in Origins, you had Wynne, and in DA2, you had Aveline and Bethany (because she's your sister, obviously). But that's just going by pattern, and not so much by the character herself. Of course, I'd like Vivienne to be open for a romantic relationship because I think she's lovely (can't say much about character yet), but judging from how she's written as someone who has lofty ambitions and abides by an adage which eschews "sentimentality", I have some reservations that she is locked in as one.

 

And out of Blackwall, Solas, and Varric, through the process of elimination, I'd cut Varric out first, since there's this issue to sort with Bianca and him seemingly written as someone who just can't let go- at least, not easily. Although, I won't totally count him out just yet as they probably have written a story where he does get over his issue with Bianca and all, but that's got to be well-executed (and we'd already be falling into some Carth syndrome, apparently), and I don't see how it's going to happen... yet. Sorry, but Varric's out of the running in my predictions, leaving Blackwall and Solas, the two older members of the group.

 

Blackwall has an interesting story going for him in the sense that he's probably nearing his end because of the calling, and is hell-bent on going out with a bang (ha!), but if a relationship ensues, I see a lot of turmoil. Blackwall will have a lot of regrets and will be royally pissed that he probably found this happiness so late in life when he could be so close to dying and that makes for some good drama. At the same time, it also makes for some really horrible gameplay experience and the writers probably thought "nah, we had Thane (?- I haven't exactly played Mass Effect all the way through, I'm going by second-hand info off the top of my head here), we don't really need another".

 

That leaves Solas, and while we have the Fade thing going for him (looks like he's pretty damn crucial to the main story), there's not much indication of how he is as someone "romanceable" hypothetically. The guy's probably a hermit for how long Patrick Weekes knows, but this could work- like, Solas finding a kindred spirit (ha!) for the first time, since you as the Inquisitor have some influence over the Fade and he'll probably be all over that like flies on ****. Then again, this also falls into this pattern that all elf companions in the previous main games so far have been open for a romantic relationship and they were all bisexual (Zevran, Merrill, and Fenris)- would it be too predictable that Solas be a love-interest?

 

I'm gonna say Vivienne and Blackwall. Both bisexual, but with some race-gating. Don't know how that'll fit with Blackwall, but with Vivienne, it's probably going to be a status thing. A part of me is hoping, I guess.

 

No matter, though, for me, personally. I'm still in my corner doing this.

Dorian? Iron Bull? Dorian? Iron Bull? Dorian? Iron Bull? Dorian? Iron Bull?

[ReelRipper]

But if the two last options were both Bi then according to the math will make it equal all around.

[In Exile]

Agreed.  I would never have romanced him anyway because I have a hard time with really devout religion.

 

Seb was such an annoying case, because I liked the voice a whole bunch, but everything else that came with it... bleh. He was like the anti Fenris (except for the fact that obviously Fenris's VA is just magic and I could listen to him read a phone book). 

[Hellion Rex]

Agreed.  I would never have romanced him anyway because I have a hard time with really devout religion.

Lol, for me it wasn't the religion bit, since I myself am a devout Catholic, but I just was not a fan of his character. Although I will admit, Seb was certainly was easy on the eyes.

[In Exile]

So, I'm just speculating here, but I've put it under a cut so as to save some eyes...

 

Spoiler

Vivienne seems like an obvious and inevitable choice, but a part of me still has some doubts because I always have a feeling there has to beat least one female who isn't romanceable, probably because she has an agenda and or is just not interested into you- Leliana doesn't count, but in Origins, you had Wynne, and in DA2, you had Aveline and Bethany (because she's your sister, obviously). But that's just going by pattern, and not so much by the character herself. Of course, I'd like Vivienne to be open for a romantic relationship because I think she's lovely (can't say much about character yet), but judging from how she's written as someone who has lofty ambitions and abides by an adage which eschews "sentimentality", I have some reservations that she is locked in as one.

 

And out of Blackwall, Solas, and Varric, through the process of elimination, I'd cut Varric out first, since there's this issue to sort with Bianca and him seemingly written as someone who just can't let go- at least, not easily. Although, I won't totally count him out just yet as they probably have written a story where he does get over his issue with Bianca and all, but that's got to be well-executed (and we'd already be falling into some Carth syndrome, apparently), and I don't see how it's going to happen... yet. Sorry, but Varric's out of the running in my predictions, leaving Blackwall and Solas, the two older members of the group.

 

Blackwall has an interesting story going for him in the sense that he's probably nearing his end because of the calling, and is hell-bent on going out with a bang (ha!), but if a relationship ensues, I see a lot of turmoil. Blackwall will have a lot of regrets and will be royally pissed that he probably found this happiness so late in life when he could be so close to dying and that makes for some good drama. At the same time, it also makes for some really horrible gameplay experience and the writers probably thought "nah, we had Thane (?- I haven't exactly played Mass Effect all the way through, I'm going by second-hand info off the top of my head here), we don't really need another".

 

That leaves Solas, and while we have the Fade thing going for him (looks like he's pretty damn crucial to the main story), there's not much indication of how he is as someone "romanceable" hypothetically. The guy's probably a hermit for how long Patrick Weekes knows, but this could work- like, Solas finding a kindred spirit (ha!) for the first time, since you as the Inquisitor have some influence over the Fade and he'll probably be all over that like flies on ****. Then again, this also falls into this pattern that all elf companions in the previous main games so far have been open for a romantic relationship and they were all bisexual (Zevran, Merrill, and Fenris)- would it be too predictable that Solas be a love-interest?

 

I'm gonna say Vivienne and Blackwall. Both bisexual, but with some race-gating. Don't know how that'll fit with Blackwall, but with Vivienne, it's probably going to be a status thing. A part of me is hoping, I guess.

 

No matter, though, for me, personally. I'm still in my corner doing this.

Dorian? Iron Bull? Dorian? Iron Bull? Dorian? Iron Bull? Dorian? Iron Bull?

 

That cat is the cutest thing I've seen in a long time. It needs to be said, even if it isn't remotely related to the topic (at least in a way that wouldn't be a warning-point level bad joke).  

[Hellion Rex]

Seb was such an annoying case, because I liked the voice a whole bunch, but everything else that came with it... bleh. He was like the anti Fenris (except for the fact that obviously Fenris's VA is just magic and I could listen to him read a phone book). 

God. Gideon Emery's voice....Jesus Christ. That voice absolutely sold me on Fenris. So freaking hot.

[Phate Phoenix]

I tend to use Asexual but homoromantic/biromantic/hetero-romantic in such situations? Might seem less confusing?

 

It's always confusing.   I do prefer to use -romantic, however, because people tend to latch on to the word 'sexual', like you're lying or something. [SIGH]

 

 

So I'm still feeling confident about Vivienne, and pretty good about Solas, too.

[jtav]

I, er, actually romanced Seb. I am worried about it being retconned.

[Maria Caliban]

It would really put my mind at ease if this time gay guys or lesbians got more options (provided that one group gets more options).  Straight guys usually get the most options.  Straight gals got the most in DA 2.  If it went to gay guys or lesbians this time, then I'd feel less that it's "always" straight people and more like "usually" straight people and I'd be okay with that.  Just as long as we all get our turn.

This is why I'm hoping for the last two to be men.

After Mass Effect, I'm okay with gay men and straight women having more options than gay women.

[Hellion Rex]

I, er, actually romanced Seb. I am worried about it being retconned.

It's not gonna be retconned lol. How would it be?

[Hellion Rex]

After Mass Effect, I'm okay with gay men and straight women having more options than gay women.

Wait, huh?

[The Elder King]

I, er, actually romanced Seb. I am worried about it being retconned.

Why should it be retconnetted ?

[Maria Caliban]

Wait, huh?

Mass Effect where the first two game gave zero options to gay men.

I know BioWare would disagree, but I think they sort of owe gay dudes an apology. Giving them 3-4 options works.

[In Exile]

God. Gideon Emery's voice....Jesus Christ. That voice absolutely sold me on Fenris. So freaking hot.

 

If it wasn't for the fact that the romance basically turned into a bit of a healing **** trope, there'd be no contest for DA2 romances, IMO. As it is, I wasn't a fan of the actual character content we got for our male LIs. Fenris was a victim of a lot of abuse and the way that helping was tied to the romance - like teaching him to read (!!) - made me a uncomfortable. But at least he wasn't a complete looney toon like Anders, who started off seemingly pretty sweet & charming and then went full on crazy. 

[jtav]

It's not gonna be retconned lol. How would it be?

I friend-manced him. Legacy has a reference to the marriage. I'm worried the writers are dead set on him being involved in Starkhaven politics and the chaste marriage will be undone.

[carlo angelo]

Seb was such an annoying case, because I liked the voice a whole bunch, but everything else that came with it... bleh. He was like the anti Fenris (except for the fact that obviously Fenris's VA is just magic and I could listen to him read a phone book). 

Yeah, Gideon Emery's voice was a deciding factor why I had my player-character develop this close bond with Fenris (among other reasons, of course). I haven't used any DLC content, so Sebastian's foreign to me, but from what I've seen in the videos, he's... easy on the eyes and his voice was very nice...

[Hellion Rex]

If it wasn't for the fact that the romance basically turned into a bit of a healing **** trope, there'd be no contest for DA2 romances, IMO. As it is, I wasn't a fan of the actual character content we got for our male LIs. Fenris was a victim of a lot of abuse and the way that helping was tied to the romance - like teaching him to read (!!) - made me a uncomfortable. But at least he wasn't a complete looney toon like Anders, who started off seemingly pretty sweet & charming and then went full on crazy. 

I agree about Anders, but I thought the healing trope with Fenris was extremely well done. Short of Kaidan, by far my favorite Bioware romance.

[Reznore57]

If it wasn't for the fact that the romance basically turned into a bit of a healing **** trope, there'd be no contest for DA2 romances, IMO. As it is, I wasn't a fan of the actual character content we got for our male LIs. Fenris was a victim of a lot of abuse and the way that helping was tied to the romance - like teaching him to read (!!) - made me a uncomfortable. But at least he wasn't a complete looney toon like Anders, who started off seemingly pretty sweet & charming and then went full on crazy. 

 

I never understood why teaching Fenris to read was a flirt option.

[javeart]

I think it would be (kind of) fair if this time there were more s/s options, and It's true that fairness and satisfaction are two different things, but the y're not completely unrelated... i mean, It's easier to be "generous" (you can have the last one, I don't mind it" when you're already content with what you got and I'm not so It'd reallly bother me if I had less options than the rest... Maybe if I had already guaranteed two options I'm interested in I could be moré open to some kind of un balance.... Right now, I'm not

Not saying that It's not perfectly fine to ask for fairness even you're happy with what you already have though.... Obviously, asking for somthing that's fair It's always fine

[Vapaa]

Mass Effect where the first two game gave zero options to gay men.

I know BioWare would disagree, but I think they sort of owe gay dudes an apology. Giving them 3-4 options works.

 

Why must it come to "owing an apology" or "taking turns in the privilege box" ? Why can't everyone just have equal options ?