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How so?
Wait people wanted to romance Oghren?
I would caution against this...
just sayin'
Most people say this kind of thing in a derogatory way, like "BSN is obsessed with banging everyone" (not saying it's your case!), but you know, I actually think it's nice that everyone gets some love, not only the pretty people, the ones we're suppossed to be into
Zu and Canderous T_T
I'd greatly preferred them over Sky (thx for comparing me to your dead wife you twit) and Trust issues.
Why? He insulted me.
Eye for an eye.
He didn't say you were bisexual. He said Merrill was. She was probably always planned to be bisexual. I'm sorry if you misunderstood this.
Hence my original post on the subject of wanting a sexually ambiguous LI since the last one who I considered as representation was given a designated orientation of bisexual.
Because real life people do not identify as playersexual. Thus there are not real life playersexual people who need representation in game.
In fact the idea that a bisexual is straight when with a diff gender and gay when with a same-sex partner is a damaging misconception that bisexuals have to fight against every day.
This seems like it's devolving into a semantics discussion, but I would argue that playersexuality is when the LI's sexuality is either vague enough that one assumes that they are whatever sexuality they would need to be to romance your PC -OR- when they actively change from straight to gay based on your player's PC.
In this case, the second is out because this never happens in Bioware games. If you want a good example of this, check out the text-based games by "Choice of Games" (for iOs, Android, and web-platforms). In those, there are often characters who will change their gender and sexuality to fit the needs of the PC. For example, if a PC identifies themselves as male and straight, then the character would be a straight female named Ashley. If the PC identifies as a male and gale, then the character would be a gay male named Ashton. One of them even has the option to randomly assign gender to each of the LI's so each playthrough will give you different options. However, this doesn't happen at all in Bioware games.
In the case for the first, it could have been construed that Merrill and Fenris were "playersexual" since neither explicitly identifies as gay, straight, or bisexual. However, context clues suggest that they aren't completely 'ambiguous'. I've always seen them as more reserved (i.e. private) bisexuals who don't feel the need to outwardly identify their sexuality. I'm not surprised that Gaider WoG'd that they are bisexual since he's hinted as much in the past.
Either way, I suspect that they are not going to be going back to the "ambiguous" sexuality in DA: I. They seem pretty happy with clearly defined sexualities this time around.
ETA: Dammit. I got distracted and took too long posting this and now there are like a dozen posts since. Grr. Apologies if it's not still relevant.
Most people say this kind of thing in a derogatory way, like "BSN is obsessed with banging everyone" (not saying it's your case!), but you know, I actually think it's nice that everyone gets some love, not only the pretty people, the ones we're suppossed to be into
Yeah, I know. It was mostly this attitude my joke was poking fun at. Sorry if it came across in a rude way
Hence my original post on the subject of wanting a sexually ambiguous LI since the last one who I considered as representation was given a designated orientation of bisexual.
That is fair, but it's unfair to call the devs names because you misunderstood a character of theirs.
the inevitable flood of tears from the fans of the 2 chars who didnt make the LI cut xD
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Varric has also stated he's not into human women, so there is a story reason for him to racegated as well.
Wait, how does sexual ambiguity work as an orientation? Does it mean you don't really have a set orientation of any variety until you meet someone you like and settle into them?
I've heard this more often as described a demisexuality. That you don't really have a sexual orientation until you meet somebody you like. I'm not 100% familiar though.
By saying that those who are sexually ambiguous, like me, are just bisexual. He erased one orientation with another. He is no better than those he was criticizing.
I don't think that's what he was saying. He was saying that Merrill and Fenris are bisexual, not that you are. And I'll admit, there's probably a crossing of lines here. When I look up sexually ambiguous on google the definitions I get are roughly "You can't tell what this person's sex is." and in the context of DA, I interpret it to mean that we can't tell what this person's sexual orientation is.
What Gaider said is that just because we don't know Fenris's digs dudes in a female playthrough, it doesn't mean that he's straight. When I think of people wanting characters to be sexually ambiguous I think immediately of bisexual erasure. If that's how you identify, then I'm sorry that our words get crossed. You have every right to identify however you wish, and nobody should judge you for it, but that doesn't mean that your orientation has to appear in game.
There are like, a million ways that people identify, and Bioware unfortunately only has a limited number of characters.
Either way, I suspect that they are not going to be going back to the "ambiguous" sexuality in DA: I. They seem pretty happy with clearly defined sexualities this time around.
Thus exactly why I am pissed off. Screw having people like me represented in games I guess.
Zu and Canderous T_T
I'd greatly preferred them over Sky (thx for comparing me to your dead wife you twit) and Trust issues.
I would have loved Zu and Canderous as LIs. More than them, though, I'd have loved to have Bao-Dur as LI. I stared off into space for a minute after typing that, even. They're all more to my interest and speed than Sky and Carth.
All right time for another round of speculation.
We've not had a romanceable dwarf companion before so...Varric. This cargoship must sink.
As for the second one, Blackwall is too Duncan/Papa Bear, so Vivienne or Solas.
By saying that those who are sexually ambiguous, like me, are just bisexual. He erased one orientation with another. He is no better than those he was criticizing.
If you don't mind, can you explain to me what it means to be "sexually ambiguous" and how it's different than bisexuality or pansexuality? I'm not sure I understand, but I'd like to. If you feel more comfortable PMing me, that would be cool too.
If they're a character in a Bioware game, someone, somewhere, has wanted to romance them.
Doesn't even have to be a character per se, probably more apt to say any object in a Bioware game.
Hence my original post on the subject of wanting a sexually ambiguous LI since the last one who I considered as representation was given a designated orientation of bisexual.
I don't see the problem with Bioware not representing "Sexually ambiguous". I have never heard of it, can't find any information about it on the internet and don't understand what I have read you say about it. Why should they feel the need to represent something so obscure?
Yeah, I know. It was mostly this attitude my joke was poking fun at. Sorry if it came across in a rude way
Oh, no, I didn't mean to say it was rude, neither I'm particularly bothered by that kind of joke, in general 
I just wanted to point out that I've always felt that's a pretty optimistic conclussion one can get out of the fact that there's always somebody who wants to romance any character you can think of
That is fair, but it's unfair to call the devs names because you misunderstood a character of theirs.
[SIGHS] Sebastian and his "chaste" romance. Man, I can't even tell you how excited I was when I heard that. Then you actually play his romance. [SHAKES HEAD] Broke my heart, really.
What is sexually ambiguous exactly?
I would have loved Zu and Canderous as LIs. More than them, though, I'd have loved to have Bao-Dur as LI. I stared off into space for a minute after typing that, even. They're all more to my interest and speed than Sky and Carth.
Same. I'd be happy if Atton had just spit it out honestly stead of going all crazy on Disciple on me O_o
I like Sky just fine just the comparison comment made me never romance him as a female after that. But Canderous was just soooo much better than Carth.
Blackwall is too Duncan/Papa Bear...
Thing is, though, that might be a selling point.
But may the best LI win (one of two empty spaces).
Christ, this is becoming a Miss Universe pageant and we're waiting on who's made it to the semi-finals...
all this talk about sexuality and metagame knowledge is lame... let us instead speculate on who else would be romancable!
granted, that might be moot, since who wants to romance the remaining companions? (besides Varric)
Oh, no, I didn't mean to say it was rude, neither I'm particularly bother by that kind of joke, in general
That's life though. I think no matter how you look or act someone will find you attractive
I'd pay $5 for a Blackwall romance.
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