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[Fizzie Panda]

Wait, who is feeling marginalized right now?  We have a 2/2/2 split with everyone getting two romance options and there are still two more LI's to be announced.

I should've clarified, I'm saying Bioware is doing a good job at keeping things balanced

[carlo angelo]

GIMMEGIMMEGIMMEGIMMEGIMME!!

[Rinji the Bearded]

Asexuals, the know they attracted to neither gender.

 

This is incorrect.  Asexuals can experience attraction, just not the sexual kind usually.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

This is incorrect.  Asexuals can experience attraction, just not the sexual kind usually.

That was a typo on my part. My apologies. 

[javeart]

well, I'd actually not care if it's a gay Varric or Solas. I like both of them. ^^

 

But I think we'll get Vivienne being bisexual and human only, since she's into power, position and stuff like that. and Solas being bisexual and elves only. He seems like the kind of guy who has a negative view towards other species, because they always judged him for being an elf.

 

I don't think (and hope) for Varric, because he seems like a typical straight character. I don't think they would make him bi. 

 

Solas actually doesn't seem to be the kind of elf who only wants to be with other elf, PW said in the interview that he hated being thought of as just an elf.

 

Anyway, and for the record, I was joking, and I don't know if I might have sounded too rude... though the part about me being ver frustrated is very much true 

[leaguer of one]

Just rember if your heart is broken you can visit the heart smith!

 

http://imgur.com/gallery/xW3S316

 

 

I think the last 2 will be Viv and Varric i mean thats just the vibe im getting from it but i could be wrong id call it a toss up if anything.

Now to put this in the Cole topics.....

[Ryzaki]

They've already said all gender/race combos will have choice.

 

A choice does not mean more than 1.

 

Unless they said more than one?

[In Exile]

Wait, who is feeling marginalized right now?  We have a 2/2/2 split with everyone getting two romance options and there are still two more LI's to be announced.

 

As I understand it, straight (male) gamers, if one of the 2 Lis is not an (at least) bi or straight Viviene. 

[Vapaa]

Because we're talking in hypotheticals about whether or not it's all "just equality" and whether or not it is or is not the same in terms of fairness.

 

I'm also biased and see the situation as being so lopsided towards one grouping.  How do we define a "good thing?"  Is it good that we're precisely even in the distributions?  Then I guess we could cut the unannounced romance options since we're currently sitting at 2/2/2, and just make sure that no race gating exists.

 

I personally think that 8 LIs then there's a gender imbalance of 7/4 and so few women is a mistake. Like I said, I just want the spread to be strickly even, even if everyone gets only one option, at least there's no "he got more than me", because it NEVER ever ends well, and can feed shadenfreude behaviors.

 

 

Is cutting content "good?"  What is good though?  I fully expect that there's going to be people that are hella pissed off no matter how the 2 remaining love interests fall.  Even if they were bisexual, because there's still going to be people that are upset because they're not getting the love interest that they want.

 

You guys already annouced 8 LIs so at this point it would be the dickest of moves to cut it.

 

And I'm sorry to keep going on about this, but Bioware's handling of romance announcements is quite abysmal, so eveyone waits for answers about their personal  best, and it gradually sets everyone on edge, why can't Bioware just release it and be done with it ?

[In Exile]

Well, given that others would get far more options, I do consider it shafting.

 

Bisexuals get more options, but that's not their fault. Although I would wager you mean either gender straight or gay gamers.

[Ianamus]

If we were to have a particular learning towards an orientation, I'd have less reservations with a straight man having less options than a group that almost always gets less options.

 

Not out of any sort of "HAHAHAHA straight white men (of which I am one) it's your turn to suffer" but rather from the standpoint of "I'm more inclined to see the other people get a bit more focus than they typically do."

 

While yes, one person's reward can always be seen as another person's punishment, I think it lacks perspective to say that it's precisely equivalent.

 

I don't think it's fair to say that it lacks perspective. 

 

I just try to think of players as individuals rather than groups. Some people will be coming in having played every Bioware game to date, others will be coming in fresh. 

 

Those coming in fresh will have never experienced having less options or having more options. If a straight players comes in to Inquisition having never played a Bioware game before and finds they have less options then they would be just as entitled to be upset as gay people who went into Mass Effect 3 and found they had less options. It's easy to say that the group always got more, but not all of that group necessarily played the games or experienced having more. 

 

And although it's walking on thin ice, you also get to the whole demographics thing. There are more straight players than gay players, so a larger number of people have less options than in the other games. A larger number of new players will have come in and been faced with less options than in any other game with uneven LI distributions. 

 

It's just... messy trying to decide what's right and what's not. It's why I take my admittedly black-and-white stance that no one group having less options is better than another group having less options. 

[Fizzie Panda]

Dreadfully so. Vivienne sounds sassy, classy, intellectual, and vicious. I must have her! lol

I know, it's killing me that I don't know yet

[Xilizhra]

As I understand it, straight (male) gamers, if one of the 2 Lis is not an (at least) bi or straight Viviene. 

Lesbians moreso, if Vivienne isn't bisexual...

[Basement Cat]

This is incorrect.  Asexuals can experience attraction, just not the sexual kind usually.

Yup. And since we are discussing labels, there are heteroromantic, homoromantic, biromantic asexuals. Then there are the aromantic folks, who do not fall in love, basically. It's not they don't care about people, they just don't get particularly want to be part of a couple. That does not stop them wanting sex. It's complicated.

[Maria Caliban]

Take your pick of negative noun then: redistribution of marginalization, inconvenience, etc. etc.
 
I am not an advocate of eye for an eye.

If Vivienne is not an LI, that's not BioWare punishing you. That's not 'an eye for an eye.'

[Josh902]

Now to put this in the Cole topics.....

 

Ha ha go ahead it deserves to be shared

[Fizzie Panda]

*snip*

 

And I'm sorry to keep going on about this, but Bioware's handling of romance announcements is quite abysmal, so eveyone waits for answers about their personal  best, and it gradually sets everyone on edge, why can't Bioware just release it and be done with it ?

I know, honestly, I just want to know, it's like a bandaid, the faster you remove it, the pain goes away quicker

[TheLastSuperSaiyan87]

She's still unconfirmed though :/
I doubt they'd pull a 5/3 gender thing but still.

As I have said if Vivienne and say Solas get announced if they are Bi that means males will have 6 options and females will have 6 options, if both are either straight or gay then that still leaves males with 5 options and females with 5 options. 

[Fizzie Panda]

If Vivienne is not an LI, that's not BioWare punishing you. That's not 'an eye for an eye.'

Exactly, I wouldn't feel like Bioware is punishing me personally, I would accept it and movie onto Josephine, but not knowing is killing me. Sure I'll be disappointed, but at that point there won't be anything I could do about it- because if she's not an LI than other people will be happy with the actual LI and that's good enough for me

[ReelRipper]

Calling it Vivienne and Solas are bisexual options!

[daveliam]

I still feel pretty confident that it's going to be a 2/4/2 sexuality split.  I'm not so confident that it's going to be a 4/4 gender split though.

 

The thing that I just can't shake is that there were going to be three race-gated LI's until IB got 'fixed' and they've been pretty clear that providing choices for all race/gender/sexuality combos is important (hence, The Chart ™).  I think that this has implications for who the last two LI's are.  I wouldn't be surprised to see two race-gated bisexual male LI's (or maybe a race-gated straight and race-gated bi male LI each) as the last two.

 

Vivienne's Valentine's Day card might have been a clue too.  I do wish I could be her Valentine, but I suspect that she is just teasing me......

[Fizzie Panda]

Right?
lol I have this weird OCD thing with videogames where I have to make a generalized list. # #
Usually consists of gender, race, class, ROMANCE. I can't help myself

I have that list in my head, but I keep "erasing" it because I don't know what's going on