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#15251
FraQ

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My guess(and hope) is that the final 2 are Vivienne and Solas

 

Vivienne could be race-gated and one of the already confirmed ones would be race-gated

 

I just hope it isn't Cassandra. I don't even particularly like Cassandra at the moment but there is something funny/compelling about her falling in love with a Qunari Mage...

 

Enough so that it could inspire a second play-through.

 

Assuming the game doesn't quell my desire to play through it multiple times (ala ME3).



#15252
Grieving Natashina

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I've not heard that before.  Obsidian developed the game, BioWare offered support and guidance, in similar collaborative effect that happened with KOTOR2.

Well then, my mistake. :D

 

I'll be sure to leave that out as an example of a BW game in the future.  I will still use it as an example of one of the worst video game endings I've ever played.  I was pretty angry until MotB came out, which really helped soothe some hurt feelings.  Thanks for the info, it's much appreciated.  



#15253
Allan Schumacher

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Hi Allan, I think it is wishful thinking to assume that the playing field will be level everywhere. IMHO it is better to be realistic and set realistic expectations accordingly. How long ago was segregation as an example outlawed, but even today it still exists. The video game industry is after all in the business to ultimately make money, and it is becoming harder to find games that are not generic. What's my point: don't compromise the quality of games. Some crusades end in martyrdom, and there is no victory.

 

This just reinforces the problem.  It's privileged and advantaged to say "lets just set realistic expectations."  It does nothing to weaken my resolve in this matter, however (it probably strengthens it).  While I won't disagree that, sadly, it's wishful thinking to assume that people can actually be respectful to each other, that doesn't mean I'll stop advocating for it.

 

My statement, however, indicated the word "ideally."  I recognize it's an ideal.

 

If you think that this undermines the quality of the games, then you're telling me that you feel the existence of LGBT content is a problem, and with the implied threat of "no victory" (i.e. our financial ruin), then the reality is that if you don't advocate as well, your inaction and willingness to defer to the status quo will have allowed a game company that you presumably enjoy go out of business because of things like sexism and homophobia.  Because doing nothing is the same as siding with the privileged.

 

 

(it should be noted that I don't believe us seeking to be inclusive will be bad for us, but I guess time will tell)


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#15254
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My guess(and hope) is that the final 2 are Vivienne and Solas

 

Vivienne could be race-gated and one of the already confirmed ones would be race-gated

I would be really happy with this outcome. No idea who will be race gated other than Vivienne, though. 



#15255
lil yonce

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My guess(and hope) is that the final 2 are Vivienne and Solas

 

Vivienne could be race-gated and one of the already confirmed ones would be race-gated

This is what I think will be the case - with Vivienne human-only for character purposes and Cullen unromanceable by a dwarf because of height animation issues. Race gating him wouldn't break his character unlike The Iron Bull.



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Ah yes, the classic "video game companies are only creating LGBT content to take advantage of LGBT people" argument.   Because the content geared for straight white males before was made for quality and not for profit, apparently.


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#15257
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I'm hoping that it will be Solas and Viv as bisexual, because I'm selfish and Solas seems amazing. (Even if he isn't a romance we will have an amazing friendship, I think) If it turns out not to be so I will just have to swoon at his voice in a corner. But at the same time I am hoping for Varric because a lot of people have wanted to romance him since DA2. AND at the same time, I know the writers picked romance for the options that made sense so I place my faith in them.  The suspense.


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#15258
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Whoever is race gated, as long as I can romance them with a human or elf, i'll be happy. I might have to cry if it turns out Sera has a dwarf fetish or something  :P  Hoping it's Viv and one of the men though  :lol:



#15259
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I kinda dont want Solas lol Just her and varric kuz well, I feel like he has been around for a long while

 

There is only one woman for Varric and she's made of wood...

 

Hint:

 

She doesn't speak but goes, "Twang!" when he touches her in the right spot!



#15260
Nocte ad Mortem

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People speculate that the other male (Cullen or Solas, usually) will be gated from dwarves, but I don't know about this. It seems unlikely that Iron Bull was going to be available to dwarves. They had a chart to make sure nobody "got screwed" and they've set a baseline at 2 choices, it seems like. If 2 males were race gated towards dwarves, then dwarves of at least certain genders wouldn't get choices. So, to me, it seems likely that the gates are not against dwarves on the male side of the LIs. Possibly Cullen or Dorian doesn't like Qunari, for example. 



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Ah yes, the classic "video game companies are only creating LGBT content to take advantage of LGBT people" argument.   Because the content geared for straight white males before was made for quality and not for profit, apparently.

Shhh! Don't destroy the illusion! 

 

Or wait, go ahead and do that. Here, use this:

 

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#15262
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I'm hoping that it will be Solas and Viv as bisexual, because I'm selfish and Solas seems amazing. (Even if he isn't a romance we will have an amazing friendship, I think) If it turns out not to be so I will just have to swoon at his voice in a corner. But at the same time I am hoping for Varric because a lot of people have wanted to romance him since DA2. AND at the same time, I know the writers picked romance for the options that made sense so I place my faith in them.  The suspense.

Same here, this is my dream outcome. IF it's Varric and not Solas, I'd be fine with that too.

 

I wouldn't be so down on Blackwall, but I selfishly don't want another "warrior" type added already onto Cullen and IB, and I'd rather have an elf or a dwarf for more variety instead of another human. I do like Blackwall as a character though!


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#15263
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This is what I think will be the case - with Vivienne human-only for character purposes and Cullen unromanceable by a dwarf because of height animation issues. Race gating him wouldn't break his character unlike The Iron Bull.

If height animation issues were the problem then no dwarf would have a romance lol. The animation issue was more than likely with Iron Bull which they fixed, story reasons are really the only thing left for race gating 



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If it's not Solas, I hope it's Blackwall, because Varric wouldn't make a very good bisexual LI. If they wouldn't just make him straight to begin with, he's another "clearly favors women" bisexual, which I'm seriously tired of.   



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People speculate that the other male (Cullen or Solas, usually) will be gated from dwarves, but I don't know about this. It seems unlikely that Iron Bull was going to be available to dwarves. They had a chart to make sure nobody "got screwed" and they've set a baseline at 2 choices, it seems like. If 2 males were race gated towards dwarves, then dwarves of at least certain genders wouldn't get choices. So, to me, it seems likely that the gates are not against dwarves on the male side of the LIs. Possibly Cullen or Dorian doesn't like Qunari, for example. 

 

Yeah, if there is only one race-gated male, then I think it's pretty much a guarantee that he will be available to dwarves because IB was probably not going to be because of animation issues and straight lady dwarves/gay male dwarves need another option (pre-recent IB fix).



#15266
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Whoever is race gated, as long as I can romance them with a human or elf, i'll be happy. I might have to cry if it turns out Sera has a dwarf fetish or something  :P  Hoping it's Viv and one of the men though  :lol:

I think Sera is safe, her character comes off as the type were she wouldn't care about race.


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#15267
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My guess(and hope) is that the final 2 are Vivienne and Solas

 

Vivienne could be race-gated and one of the already confirmed ones would be race-gated

I'm guessing that is what will happen too. Viv will be Bi I suspect also for reasons, Orlaisian reasons. :P



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I'll be sure to leave that out as an example of a BW game in the future.  I will still use it as an example of one of the worst video game endings I've ever played.  I was pretty angry until MotB came out, which really helped soothe some hurt feelings.  Thanks for the info, it's much appreciated.  

 

You're welcome.  :wizard:   NWN2 OC's (good 'rocks fall') ending was one of the worst endings in a choice-driven RPG that I have ever had the pleasure of witnessing.  I remember laughing out loud when the credits rolled, in lieu of not knowing what else to think.  Did that really happen?  Yes.  Yes, I did just get trolled by a video game.    The romances in the game were some of the worst I've played as well.  When the romances have me cringing and gritting my teeth the entire game... Goodness.  I still hold a torch for Bishop, though.  That voice.  MotB, however, was excellent across all counts.  

 

It's similar to NWN, though, in that I really did not like the OC but the expansion I loved.  Hordes of the Underdark is one of my favorites, and the romances were lovely (Gaider wrote the dude LI, Valen).  


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I would like it to be equal for everyone but if gay fans get the extra options for the first time. Then i understand and is fine to me it will make a lot of people happy but also upset a lot of people but its a good thing bioware give these options but not everyone will think this.

 

 

I just wish bioware would give out the last two options cause the longer they wait the worst it will get in here and i see no point not telling people this info. Im fine with my two options but wish bioware would just get it over with and just say who the last two are cause the longer you wait the worst the reaction will be.



#15270
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I can see Vivienne and Solas being the two race-gated. 

 

Vivienne being Human and Dwarf only since those are influential people to have, Human because they are of noble blood and Dwarf because of possible connections to their organizations like the Merchant's Guild or even Orzammar. 

 

Solas being Human, Elf, and possibly Qunari because they can dream so they can share in his passion. 



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Once again, i'm sacrificing myself for Cass to let her be the one that gets race-gated so others are free.

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You're welcome.  :wizard:   NWN2 OC's (good 'rocks fall') ending was one of the worst endings in a choice-driven RPG that I have ever had the pleasure of witnessing.  I remember laughing out loud when the credits rolled, in lieu of not knowing what else to think.  Did that really happen?  Yes.  Yes, I did just get trolled by a video game.    The romances in the game were some of the worst I've played as well.  When the romances have me cringing and gritting my teeth the entire game... Goodness.  I still hold a torch for Bishop, though.  That voice.  MotB, however, was excellent across all counts.  

 

It's similar to NWN, though, in that I really did not like the OC but the expansion I loved.  Hordes of the Underdark is one of my favorites, and the romances were lovely (Gaider wrote the dude LI, Valen).  

 

Believe it or not I loved the Neverwinter Nights 2 romances, because I was quite young at the time and they were the first romances in a game I had ever experienced (Not counting KOTOR, because I was too young to really understand them at the time). The ending left me devastated. 

 

It's a bit sad that I'll never be able to experience that again. The joy of loving a character, having no idea that they are a romance option or that romance options are even in the game and then seeing the option to confess your love pop up on the dialogue bar. 



#15273
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Still really REALLY hope that the bisexual LIs get the race gates I think gender and race restrictions on one LI would put me off on even trying that romance :/



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Maybe Solas will have issues with Qunari, in general. He definitely seems not to like IB. The Inquisitor isn't of the Qun, though, and I don't think there'd likely have been a Qunari sacking on his tiny village in Orlais, or whatever, to inspire a traumatic reaction. Unless he's not from Orlais and is from somewhere close to Qunari lands? Do we know where Solas is originally from?



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Maybe Solas will have issues with Qunari, in general. He definitely seems not to like IB. The Inquisitor isn't of the Qun, though, and I don't think there'd likely have been a Qunari sacking on his tiny village in Orlais, or whatever, to inspire a traumatic reaction. Unless he's not from Orlais and is from somewhere close to Qunari lands? Do we know where Solas is originally from?

Oh? Where was it stated that he has a problem with Iron Bull was it on the main sight somewhere? Or in a video I most likely missed? ^^;