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Inquisitor: So... I see that you've been the one who's been creating these rifts...
Big Bad: Yes... And you're the one who's been closing them.
Inquisitor: There's one more I need to close.
Big Bad: The Great Rift?
Inquisitor: No, the one between us.
Big Bad: I never wanted to open that one in the first place.
Oh god I can't stop laughing.
I cant even, that is the corniest most hilarious thing I've read this week. Bravo
Wait today is Monday, now this just seems like a dumb thing to say.
If you've ever played Final Fantasy X, I'm basing my male character after Auron. If you don't know who that is, google a pic of "Auron FFX" and tell me what you think. I'd like your and Elu's opinion on this.
Hot damn!
If you've ever played Final Fantasy X, I'm basing my male character after Auron. If you don't know who that is, google a pic of "Auron FFX" and tell me what you think. I'd like your and Elu's opinion on this.
I hope not personality wise cuz from what I know of Auron he is booooriiiing :v
@Lili Haven't seen you in awhile hun. Way to make an entrance. 
I hope not personality wise cuz from what I know of Auron he is booooriiiing :v
Oh heck no. I'm aiming for a diplo/snarky type attitude. 
@Lili Haven't seen you in awhile hun. Way to make an entrance.
Hello Natashina! It's nice to see you.
Inquisitor: So... I see that you've been the one who's been creating these rifts...
Big Bad: Yes... And you're the one who's been closing them.
Inquisitor: There's one more I need to close.
Big Bad: The Great Rift?
Inquisitor: No, the one between us.
Big Bad: I never wanted to open that one in the first place.
lmao queue sappy love music playing in the background. XD
WOW I thought I clicked add reply. Fail -__-
If you've ever played Final Fantasy X, I'm basing my male character after Auron. If you don't know who that is, google a pic of "Auron FFX" and tell me what you think. I'd like your and Elu's opinion on this.
Now thats an Inquisitor I'd like to see since I could never recreate that much awesome. I dislike you right now for putting images of him in my head after I had dropped that huge crush I had on him only a few years ago now its back and in full swing thanks a lot. 
Hello Natashina! It's nice to see you.
Aye, you too. Glad to see that the tornado sirens have decreased around town.
Now thats an Inquisitor I'd like to see since I could never recreate that much awesome. I dislike you right now for putting images of him in my head after I had dropped that huge crush I had on him only a few years ago now its back and in full swing thanks a lot.
That's me! I'm a helper.
Of the LIs we know of so far, how do you all think they will play out? Like tropes/archtypes, etc?
They did say that they prefer having set sexualities. Them doing the ambiguity in DA2 was just since they had only 4 romances to work with. And some people's reactions to it sure seemed to turn them off to the idea of doing that again.
I value representation more than those that were upset because of "realism" or anything like that. I'm more concerned with people saying "I like to see people like me because I rarely do" and was able to make the connection of going "yes, I can understand that and it seems pretty clear."
I used to be more keen on "playersexuality" and the notion of the characters were "ambiguous" in the sense that, from the outside looking in we couldn't definitively state that a character was a particular orientation. Until I learned that bisexuals (and perhaps bisexuals) have to battle that all the time. Stuff like that, (coupled with my own frustration towards those that would always decry how unrealistic it was) made me reevaluate. I made a choice to refer to them as bisexuals because there's a valid case that any of the companions can be shown as being attracted to either men or women. (Someone like Maria can probably recall that I used to speak more for the other side, as I remember her pointing out that my original defenses of metagaming weren't really applicable).
So when I say that I moved away from referring to Merril (or Fenris) as "ambiguous" it was more from the outside perspective (Allan can look at Merril and say she is gay, straight, or bisexual), as opposed to any concept of "Merril is uncertain/unclear of her own sexual orientation."
In the context of DA2's romances, there was a very even split between who would like something like that and who preferred not to, when discussing LGBTQ content at PAX Prime.
Before this thread, the concept of someone with your sexuality was foreign to me. Like, entirely oblivious. And it was reinforced because my mind kept trying to put you somewhere else. (i.e. maybe they're pansexual and gender is irrelevant... maybe they're demisexual because you need that deep connection... although can't demisexuals still have preference!? I don't know!!! System crash: CONFUSED!!!). I still struggle with things like non-binary gender because in my past 30+ years, that was all there was to me.
Hopefully that can help provide some context!
Careful, dear. You're drooling.
It's from old age rather than something lascivious, I assure you.
If you've ever played Final Fantasy X, I'm basing my male character after Auron. If you don't know who that is, google a pic of "Auron FFX" and tell me what you think. I'd like your and Elu's opinion on this.
Ohhh, that's the one you are pairing up with Dorian. I remember. I do hope the CC allows for some capability to make silver foxes. Auron earns my Smexy Stamp of Approval.
Proceed!
I still expect screenshots.
Of the LIs we know of so far, how do you all think they will play out? Like tropes/archtypes, etc?
I am hoping/wanting Iron Bull's romance to subvert many people's expectations that he will be gregarious and not take it seriously. I'd love to see him be incredibly romantic, tender, and a generous lover.
I'm actually kind of surprised by how many people want a romance with a villain. It's not something I would have even thought of. I can't say if it's something I'd ever be interested in. I suppose it depends on what context the tension is that they brought. For example, I can never spare Loghain in DA:O. Not after I found out he was selling elves into slavery and everything else he did. So, obviously I couldn't romance a similar sort of character. I would really have to be able to sympathize with why they've been doing whatever they did to make them a villain to begin with.
I guess some of your companions/LIs have already done some pretty bad things, even if they are on your side for the majority of the game. So, maybe it wouldn't actually be all that different.
Of the LIs we know of so far, how do you all think they will play out? Like tropes/archtypes, etc?
Hmmmm. I'm a bit hesitant to speculate since I don't want to become wedded to any particular idea of a romance only to get disappointed later (see: Anders). However I hope the Cullen romance is one of those adorably awkward ones, so my snarky Qunari mage can go in there and make it even more awkward. Jo seems like a sweetheart, and I'm hoping hers is very drama-free and supportive, so I can romance her with one of my Inquisitors who really needs someone they can rely on. And Iron Bull seems like the kind of guy who'd take his date to a bar so they can both get amazingly hammered and spend the night either telling stories or getting into bar fights.
I am hoping/wanting Iron Bull's romance to subvert many people's expectations that he will be gregarious and not take it seriously. I'd love to see him be incredibly romantic, tender, and a generous lover.
I could also see him as rather shy at first. You know, using his humor to cover his emotions towards the Quizzy at the start of the romance. Then he gradually stops joking and laughing and gives a real smile full of warmth.
Of the LIs we know of so far, how do you all think they will play out? Like tropes/archtypes, etc?
*tosses loooooooooooong scroll across war table*
http://tvtropes.org/...Main/LoveTropes
For those occasional playthroughs where I'd like to pour over the drama with more drama and deep fry it in extra drama drama a villain romance could be fun I have NO idea how it would be pulled off in anyway shape or form but the idea of it is pretty dang fun at least to me it sounds like it could be. 
He certainly has a lot to give *blushes*I am hoping/wanting Iron Bull's romance to subvert many people's expectations that he will be gregarious and not take it seriously. I'd love to see him be incredibly romantic, tender, and a generous lover.
I'm actually kind of surprised by how many people want a romance with a villain. It's not something I would have even thought of. I can't say if it's something I'd ever be interested in. I suppose it depends on what context the tension is that they brought. For example, I can never spare Loghain in DA:O. Not after I found out he was selling elves into slavery and everything else he did. So, obviously I couldn't romance a similar sort of character. I would really have to be able to sympathize with why they've been doing whatever they did to make them a villain to begin with.
I guess some of your companions/LIs have already done some pretty bad things, even if they are on your side for the majority of the game. So, maybe it wouldn't actually be all that different.
A villain romance is appealing, I think, because a strong antagonistic relationship can result in a lot of sexual tension (in media, at least). I remember a lot of ladies being into Saren back on the old Bioware forums. That said, not quite sure how that'd work out in gameplay terms.
Also that reminds me, someone made a BG2 romance mod for Sarevok which was apparently very well-received. Haven't played it myself, but there you go.
I could also see him as rather shy at first. You know, using his humor to cover his emotions towards the Quizzy at the start of the romance. Then he gradually stops joking and laughing and gives a real smile full of warmth.
I like this idea. Bashful!Bull would be adorable.
Of the LIs we know of so far, how do you all think they will play out? Like tropes/archtypes, etc?
I'm eyeing Dorian and Iron Bull.
With Dorian, while he is said to be smart and witty and all, I can't help but think that he could be incredibly dense when it comes to "reading the atmosphere". Like, he's logical and he's got some of the best intentions around, but... as a romantic prospect, he's an idiot. At least, this is what I'm predicting. And he doesn't even know it. Like, Dorian has this perception of himself thinking that he's suave, but the scene plays out awkwardly and the Inquisitor and everyone around him gets second-hand embarrassment. "Is this really how they do things in Tevinter?"
Iron Bull, I haven't given much thought to. Really, I don't know what to expect from him. But I think maybe his idea of a good time is attending the Thedas equivalent of monster truck mayhem...
I'm actually kind of surprised by how many people want a romance with a villain. It's not something I would have even thought of. I can't say if it's something I'd ever be interested in. I suppose it depends on what context the tension is that they brought. For example, I can never spare Loghain in DA:O. Not after I found out he was selling elves into slavery and everything else he did. So, obviously I couldn't romance a similar sort of character. I would really have to be able to sympathize with why they've been doing whatever they did to make them a villain to begin with.
I guess some of your companions/LIs have already done some pretty bad things, even if they are on your side for the majority of the game. So, maybe it wouldn't actually be all that different.
For me, I reaaaally love the "redeemed villain" or the "heel face turn" trope. So while I (probably) wouldn't want to romance an outright villain, I think a redeemable villain would make a very interesting romance, imo.
Also depends on how much of a "villain" or what exactly they did in the past too. A lot of factors to consider.
A villain romance is appealing, I think, because a strong antagonistic relationship can result in a lot of sexual tension (in media, at least). I remember a lot of ladies being into Saren back on the old Bioware forums. That said, not quite sure how that'd work out in gameplay terms.
Also that reminds me, someone made a BG2 romance mod for Sarevok which was apparently very well-received. Haven't played it myself, but there you go.
Yep.
Plus it's a way to troll with some of the stupid villian moments and make them justifiable other than the villian being slapped with the idiot ball.
I always thought the villian should be a NPC romance that you can talk with at certain points in the story they tell you about their childhood and what not (and all of this is the truth. You don't know the villian's backgrounds and motivations in game or you learn them in a way that makes them have a very different slant on them) and gradually this turns into friendship or romance (if the PC chooses). Of course you can also be a douche and make them dislike you (and this is where hopefully a lot of the villian dumb moments are placed with a competent dangerous villian cause yay variation and shows they're not stupid as much as protective). And there actions are justifiable maybe not nice but it's understandable why they did what they did. They're not doing crap for the evilulz.
And maybe with a high enough friendship or romance lvl you can find some way to work together. Without it they don't trust you enough not to go against their goals and it doesn't end well. *shrug* It'd be different from the rest of BW's romances if nothing else
A villain romance is appealing, I think, because a strong antagonistic relationship can result in a lot of sexual tension (in media, at least). I remember a lot of ladies being into Saren back on the old Bioware forums. That said, not quite sure how that'd work out in gameplay terms.
Also that reminds me, someone made a BG2 romance mod for Sarevok which was apparently very well-received. Haven't played it myself, but there you go.
I honestly feel like the only way it would work is if they were set up to be like Loghain, with maybe more interaction one on one before you pick them up. They would probably be antagonistic towards you throughout a decent chunk of the game, but not the actual "end game" boss. I can't imagine it could work with the end game boss, because.. you'd never really get to see the relationship? I mean, you kind of need some actual time with them that you're not trying to kill each other for it to work out the way romances generally do.
I'm a bit skeptical still if I'd like this sort of thing. It would just depend very heavily on the villain they used and what their motivations were. I also feel like it would be hard to make the romance worthwhile with the amount of actual interaction you could have. Companions that you pick up later in the game have always been kind of a disappointment to me, generally.
Yep.
Plus it's a way to troll with some of the stupid villian moments and make them justifiable other than the villian being slapped with the idiot ball.
I always thought the villian should be a NPC romance that you can talk with at certain points in the story they tell you about their childhood and what not (and all of this is the truth. You don't know the villian's backgrounds and motivations in game or you learn them in a way that makes them have a very different slant on them) and gradually this turns into friendship or romance (if the PC chooses). Of course you can also be a douche and make them dislike you (and this is where hopefully a lot of the villian dumb moments are placed with a competent dangerous villian cause yay variation and shows they're not stupid as much as protective). And there actions are justifiable maybe not nice but it's understandable why they did what they did. They're not doing crap for the evilulz.
And maybe with a high enough friendship or romance lvl you can find some way to work together. Without it they don't trust you enough not to go against their goals and it doesn't end well. *shrug* It'd be different from the rest of BW's romances if nothing else
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