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[Former_Fiend]

No more gating D:

 

Tear down the gates!

[MCG]

Well, I can see myself feeling kinda tempted by the 'Iron Bull' but overall my heart goes with Dorian (at the moment) so a quick fondle with the former is fine by me   .

[fighterchick]

I see no reason for class gating, unless we are getting another Fenris or something. 

 

Me either!  I'm not too thrilled with the race-gating, but I figured someone like Cullen (after all his experiences with mages, despite initially liking an Amell or Surana) or IB, being Qunari, might not be too keen on romancing a mage.  Really hope that's not the case though.

[Josh902]

No more gating D:

 

#Breakthewalls

[SleepyPerson]

I don't think class gating would happen but I'd be cool with class/choices/race affecting romance the way it did with Alistair's. Just with a higher chance of saving the relationship! Doesn't have to affect it in a negative way though.

[Maria Caliban]

I'm hoping Cass will be open to all and incredibly hard to begin/finish successfully.

[Deviija]

Tear down the gates!

 

Try as I might, my efforts result in nothing but pawing at my screen ineffectually.  

[Maria Caliban]

Try as I might, my efforts result in nothing but pawing at my screen ineffectually.

My cat does that when she spots my mouse pointed. It's very cute.

[mikeymoonshine]

Me either!  I'm not too thrilled with the race-gating, but I figured someone like Cullen (after all his experiences with mages, despite initially liking an Amell or Surana) or IB, being Qunari, might not be too keen on romancing a mage.  Really hope that's not the case though.

 

Well he fancied a mage on Origins and he still remembered her fondly in DA2. It would be kwl if the romance was a bit different if your pc was a mage though. 

[fighterchick]

I don't think class gating would happen but I'd be cool with class/choices/race affecting romance the way it did with Alistair's. Just with a higher chance of saving the relationship! Maybe even breaking up temporarily and then getting back together as the game progresses. That would be very cliche though. 

 

Ooooh, it's been a long time since I romanced Alistair.  How did his change based on class?  I remember race vaguely changing with a few lines and the main one being that he wouldn't marry anyone as king but the human noble.  

[SleepyPerson]

Ooooh, it's been a long time since I romanced Alistair.  How did his change based on class?  I remember race vaguely changing with a few lines and the main one being that he wouldn't marry anyone as king but the human noble.  

 

He wouldn't marry a human if she was a mage. But being a queen seems boring anyway, so I was fine with that.

[LiaraShepard]

it's also interesting to romance fenris as a mage or anders as warrior. I wouldn't like class restrictions...they' remove a very interesting concept.

[Clockwork_Wings]

I'm just hoping that if they're going to gate they're going to have some interesting dialog in place, like Sera thinking a male inquisitor is just teasing her for a little while before Mordining him.  Something more interesting than not being able to start it in the first place.

 

Some of my Hawkes felt their One True was Tallis.  Whoops.  Well, maybe Aveline might be...huh...let's hope Isabella doesn't do anything profoundly stupid like steal from qunari...

[Josh902]

He wouldn't marry a human if she was a mage. 

 

Really? I did not know that.

 

Ofcourse i only ever play Males but still i read about the other romances.

[Clockwork_Wings]

it's also interesting to romance fenris as a mage or anders as warrior. I wouldn't like class restrictions...they' remove a very interesting concept.

I concur.  I have some examples about twenty pages back on how one could discuss incongruous romances without gating them or ignoring the elephant in the room.

[Syledir]

It is times like this, when I try to remember, how much Bioware has done for it's fans. The level of character creation and costumization. How much influence you have on your characters progress in the story. The depth and number of available romances. All combined in one single game. There is not a single game that gives the player the same "this is my hero, this is my story" feeling like a Bioware game and I can't express enough, how grateful I am that Bioware puts forth the effort to give us games like that.

 

Having said that, I fail to understand why Bioware insists to burden themselves with the same problem again and again. Everytime the next game is anounced, fans all over the world gather and prey to Steven Seagal and Chuck Norris that their favourite NPC is available for their preferred sexual orientation. And most of the time people who preferred same sex romances got the short end of the stick. Mass Effect 2 for example.

 

I have read Allan Schumachers explanation on page one of this thread and I am pleased that Bioware genuinly cares to give us as many high quality romances as possible. Still, as soon as you say certain NPCs won't be available for male or female PCs, a shitstorm is inevitable. And now race restrictions on top of that. Wether you like or not people will feel left out, discriminated or just plain pissed off. What makes it worse is, you knew it would happen and did it anyway.

 

I see no difference between gender or race restrictions. If your writing team thinks that a certain NPC would make a good romance arc but your cinematics team can't make it work for all genders or all races, don't do it. Keep your ideas for future games or DLCs. Maybe even a romance DLC. Use these ideas to flesh out the romances that already exist. Just don't create content that will exclude certain some of your fans.

 

It's rather late and my English has gotten a little rusty, but I hope I could get my point across.

[fighterchick]

it's also interesting to romance fenris as a mage or anders as warrior. I wouldn't like class restrictions...they' remove a very interesting concept.

 

Part of my favorite bits of the Fenris romance were how he reacted to you being a mage.  Any time I played as a warrior, I never got past act I.  Did Anders act much difference in a romance when the PC wasn't a mage?

 

I do hope the romances have a little bit scattered throughout that address the class the inquisitor is, even if it's small!

[Clockwork_Wings]

It is times like this, when I try to remember, how much Bioware has done for it's fans. The level of character creation and costumization. How much influence you have on your characters progress in the story. The depth and number of available romances. All combined in one single game. There is not a single game that gives the player the same "this is my hero, this is my story" feeling like a Bioware game and I can't express enough, how grateful I am that Bioware puts forth the effort to give us games like that.

 

Having said that, I fail to understand why Bioware insists to burden themselves with the same problem again and again. Everytime the next game is anounced, fans all over the world gather and prey to Steven Seagal and Chuck Norris that their favourite NPC is available for their preferred sexual orientation. And most of the time people who preferred same sex romances got the short end of the stick. Mass Effect 2 for example.

 

I have read Allan Schumachers explanation on page one of this thread and I am pleased that Bioware genuinly cares to give us as many high quality romances as possible. Still, as soon as you say certain NPCs won't be available for male or female PCs, a shitstorm is inevitable. And now race restrictions on top of that. Wether you like or not people will feel left out, discriminated or just plain pissed off. What makes it worse is, you knew it would happen and did it anyway.

 

I see no difference between gender or race restrictions. If your writing team thinks that a certain NPC would make a good romance arc but your cinematics team can't make it work for all genders or all races, don't do it. Keep your ideas for future games or DLCs. Maybe even a romance DLC. Use these ideas to flesh out the romances that already exist. Just don't create content that will exclude certain some of your fans.

 

It's rather late and my English has gotten a little rusty, but I hope I could get my point across.

It's why I think playersexual might have been better in the long-run.  I get what they're trying to do, but at least people wouldn't be starting civil wars over who will-be or won't-be.

 

But who am I to tell them how to write their characters?

[Clockwork_Wings]

Part of my favorite bits of the Fenris romance were how he reacted to you being a mage.  Any time I played as a warrior, I never got past act I.  Did Anders act much difference in a romance when the PC wasn't a mage?

 

I do hope the romances have a little bit scattered throughout that address the class the inquisitor is, even if it's small!

I never played warrior.  As a (female) mage, he says he dreams of a world where "people like us" could raise families in peace.

[LiaraShepard]

Part of my favorite bits of the Fenris romance were how he reacted to you being a mage.  Any time I played as a warrior, I never got past act I.  Did Anders act much difference in a romance when the PC wasn't a mage?

 

I do hope the romances have a little bit scattered throughout that address the class the inquisitor is, even if it's small!

 

I think at one point, Justice speaks for him and tells us to stopp manipulating him. but I'm not sure. I've just watched some youtube videos. As for me, I always play as a mage.

[mikeymoonshine]

It is times like this, when I try to remember, how much Bioware has done for it's fans. The level of character creation and costumization. How much influence you have on your characters progress in the story. The depth and number of available romances. All combined in one single game. There is not a single game that gives the player the same "this is my hero, this is my story" feeling like a Bioware game and I can't express enough, how grateful I am that Bioware puts forth the effort to give us games like that.

 

Having said that, I fail to understand why Bioware insists to burden themselves with the same problem again and again. Everytime the next game is anounced, fans all over the world gather and prey to Steven Seagal and Chuck Norris that their favourite NPC is available for their preferred sexual orientation. And most of the time people who preferred same sex romances got the short end of the stick. Mass Effect 2 for example.

 

I have read Allan Schumachers explanation on page one of this thread and I am pleased that Bioware genuinly cares to give us as many high quality romances as possible. Still, as soon as you say certain NPCs won't be available for male or female PCs, a shitstorm is inevitable. And now race restrictions on top of that. Wether you like or not people will feel left out, discriminated or just plain pissed off. What makes it worse is, you knew it would happen and did it anyway.

 

I see no difference between gender or race restrictions. If your writing team thinks that a certain NPC would make a good romance arc but your cinematics team can't make it work for all genders or all races, don't do it. Keep your ideas for future games or DLCs. Maybe even a romance DLC. Use these ideas to flesh out the romances that already exist. Just don't create content that will exclude certain some of your fans.

 

It's rather late and my English has gotten a little rusty, but I hope I could get my point across.

 

Well it's a tough one, allot of people really hated the all bi way of doing it. I actually didn't mind it but I understand that a more realistic character has their own sexuality and this way we actually get a gay character, who is a companion too 

 

As a proud supporter of the "gay agenda"   I know a specifically lgbt character means allot more than just having all the LI's bi. It's support and acceptance from bioware and I am very happy about it. 

 

(edit) ofc I know that all the bi characters are also LGBT but there is a difference when they are putting a characters sexuality above some of the players who may want to romance that character. 

[Maria Caliban]

If your writing team thinks that a certain NPC would make a good romance arc but your cinematics team can't make it work for all genders or all races, don't do it.

Does anyone think Dragon Age: Origins would be better without the Alister and Morrigan romances?

Or if they made Morrigan bisexual but cut Alistar's romance?

[mikeymoonshine]

Does anyone think Dragon Age: Origins would be better without the Alister and Morrigan romances?

Or if they made Morrigan bisexual but then cut Alistar's romance?

 

Nah, they were both brilliant romances and I wouldn't wanna SSmance them either. 

[fighterchick]

Does anyone think Dragon Age: Origins would be better without the Alister and Morrigan romances?

Or if they made Morrigan bisexual but cut Alistar's romance?

 

I don't think it would be any worse!  Does that count?

[Clockwork_Wings]

Come to think of it, since one always leaves and the other tries to dump you if you can't produce him a legitimate heir, there probably would have been little difference.  I kinda like how Morrigan seduces a male warden from the start, though.  Her goal is, after all, to get pregnant, and that seems to most expedient way of carrying that out.