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[daveliam]

[JadePrince]

This guy again? Another name to add to my block list. :/ 

 

So, how about them muppets?

[AresKeith]

Did you really make a new account just to do that?

[daveliam]

This guy again? Another name to add to my block list. :/ 

 

So, how about them muppets?

 

Well clearly Iron Bull is Janice

 

[Deviija]

If I didn't know better I'd think that half the people in this thread were actually doing their best to inspire disdain for homosexuals by behaving like spoiled kids. Well, it will be interesting to see if you simply delete this or perform the same act as before.

 

[daveliam]

 

Werq, Miss Nene!

[A Clever Name]

 

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Honestly, that's the thing I keep coming back to. Thinking about it in the Dragon Age world, it would be hard to depict a character like this, because do Thedosians understand the differences between sexual and emotional attraction? Perhaps a member of the Qun would, and maybe that could be something to look into.
 
(A qunari Tal-Vashoth who left the Qun and tried sex a few times because it wasn't allowed, but not because she felt the urge to. Realized it just wasn't for her, and carried on. Prefers having her hair brushed to kissing.)
 
One way to do it could be an ace LI who isn't repulsed by sexual contact, that way even sexual characters don't feel like a zot has been 'wasted' on an asexual LI. The ace LI has to be asked about sex, and maybe he turns you down the first time, because he's just not up for it. You ask again, later, and he says he hadn't thought about it, but he's willing. The scene after would be really hard, though, because how do you depict someone who's happy the Player is happy, but really just wants to get back to trimming the feathers on his arrows? And not insult the Player?
 
On that same note, how do you make sure that it's actually asexual representation there? You can't say the word 'asexual', that term doesn't exist in Thedas. But you also can't say, "I don't want to have sex with you," because most players will take that as a rejection. You could have the ace LI explain further, but how do you do that without coming across as an Asexuality 101 professor? There's a fine line that has to be balanced there. But... I think it could be done.
 
 
I feel there would have to be 5 things for an asexual relationship in Dragon Age:
 
1) Obvious Asexual Representation - If you're going to do it, make sure the character reads as asexual. Otherwise, what's the point? The character has to be disinterested in sex, and the only way I can think to show that is to, simply, not have them come to the Player asking for sex. 
 
2) Content for Sexual Players - The asexual crowd is itty-bitty, and the sexual one has shown they generally don't like their LI's to be chaste. (Sebastian.) So, write the asexual LI that's willing to have sex, but you have to make sure the character is still asexual. Asexual people can have sex, can enjoy sex, but really we'd rather be doing something more productive. Perhaps the after-sex scene could be a sexual Player waking up and seeing the asexual LI, freshly-washed, doing some work in a chair.
 
3) Content for Asexual Players - If you're not gonna have sex, what are you going to be doing? Talking about all that sex you're not having? I hope not. There does need to be a conversation, though, or else it's not representation, it's ambiguous. So, perhaps something like, "So, you ever gonna ask me to have sex?" "Uh, no. Why? Do you wanna have sex?" "Nnnnnooo... It's just... everyone else always asks me to have sex." "Ugh. Why? Let's play chess." and that's it. Then we get lovely scenes with cuddling and hugging and nuzzling and face-touching. All the face-touching.
 
4) Ability to Be Asexual as a Player - Let me say, as plainly as I can in the game world, that my character is asexual. And don't make the Player automatically act approving to a flirt. The Reaction Wheel sounds like it could be perfect for this kind of thing.
 
5) Team Banter About an Asexual Relationship - This is probably where the character will talk most about their asexuality, actually. And, really, part of this banter would end up, for an asexual pair, being about all the sex they're not having. And that's great. No, really, this is important here. Acknowledging that these two characters are not having sex is important. Acknowledgement from the outside world is important.
 
 
Aaaand, that's all I can think of. I should preface this by saying I in no way speak for all asexuals. This is just what I would be comfortable seeing in a game, and what I hope for in an asexual relationship. Really, at the end of the day, all I want is acknowledgement and love. Just have to make that work in this kind of setting.   

This is basically everything I have ever wanted out of an asexual romance in Dragon Age.  Bless you and your brilliant mind.

[pallascedar]

This guy again? Another name to add to my block list. :/ 

 

So, how about them muppets?

 

How do you do that? Responding isn't worth it.

[Chernaya]

The iconless trolls with barely any postcount strike again, I see. 

 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

 
Honestly, that's the thing I keep coming back to. Thinking about it in the Dragon Age world, it would be hard to depict a character like this, because do Thedosians understand the differences between sexual and emotional attraction? Perhaps a member of the Qun would, and maybe that could be something to look into.
 
(A qunari Tal-Vashoth who left the Qun and tried sex a few times because it wasn't allowed, but not because she felt the urge to. Realized it just wasn't for her, and carried on. Prefers having her hair brushed to kissing.)
 
One way to do it could be an ace LI who isn't repulsed by sexual contact, that way even sexual characters don't feel like a zot has been 'wasted' on an asexual LI. The ace LI has to be asked about sex, and maybe he turns you down the first time, because he's just not up for it. You ask again, later, and he says he hadn't thought about it, but he's willing. The scene after would be really hard, though, because how do you depict someone who's happy the Player is happy, but really just wants to get back to trimming the feathers on his arrows? And not insult the Player?
 
On that same note, how do you make sure that it's actually asexual representation there? You can't say the word 'asexual', that term doesn't exist in Thedas. But you also can't say, "I don't want to have sex with you," because most players will take that as a rejection. You could have the ace LI explain further, but how do you do that without coming across as an Asexuality 101 professor? There's a fine line that has to be balanced there. But... I think it could be done.
 
 
I feel there would have to be 5 things for an asexual relationship in Dragon Age:
 
1) Obvious Asexual Representation - If you're going to do it, make sure the character reads as asexual. Otherwise, what's the point? The character has to be disinterested in sex, and the only way I can think to show that is to, simply, not have them come to the Player asking for sex. 
 
2) Content for Sexual Players - The asexual crowd is itty-bitty, and the sexual one has shown they generally don't like their LI's to be chaste. (Sebastian.) So, write the asexual LI that's willing to have sex, but you have to make sure the character is still asexual. Asexual people can have sex, can enjoy sex, but really we'd rather be doing something more productive. Perhaps the after-sex scene could be a sexual Player waking up and seeing the asexual LI, freshly-washed, doing some work in a chair.
 
3) Content for Asexual Players - If you're not gonna have sex, what are you going to be doing? Talking about all that sex you're not having? I hope not. There does need to be a conversation, though, or else it's not representation, it's ambiguous. So, perhaps something like, "So, you ever gonna ask me to have sex?" "Uh, no. Why? Do you wanna have sex?" "Nnnnnooo... It's just... everyone else always asks me to have sex." "Ugh. Why? Let's play chess." and that's it. Then we get lovely scenes with cuddling and hugging and nuzzling and face-touching. All the face-touching.
 
4) Ability to Be Asexual as a Player - Let me say, as plainly as I can in the game world, that my character is asexual. And don't make the Player automatically act approving to a flirt. The Reaction Wheel sounds like it could be perfect for this kind of thing.
 
5) Team Banter About an Asexual Relationship - This is probably where the character will talk most about their asexuality, actually. And, really, part of this banter would end up, for an asexual pair, being about all the sex they're not having. And that's great. No, really, this is important here. Acknowledging that these two characters are not having sex is important. Acknowledgement from the outside world is important.
 
 
Aaaand, that's all I can think of. I should preface this by saying I in no way speak for all asexuals. This is just what I would be comfortable seeing in a game, and what I hope for in an asexual relationship. Really, at the end of the day, all I want is acknowledgement and love. Just have to make that work in this kind of setting. 

This is a very well done post. Bravo. 

[Hellion Rex]

How do you do that? Responding isn't worth it.

I'll PM you.

[JadePrince]

How do you do that? Responding isn't worth it.

 

You click on your name up top, and select "Manage Ignore Prefs" and then put in their handle.

 

Yep, not even worth it.

 

Whoops, ninja'd by Elu.

[Hellion Rex]

I'll PM you.

Lol, never mind. JP got ya.

[SamanthaJ]

This guy again? Another name to add to my block list. :/ 

 

So, how about them muppets?

Vivienne, yes? No?

I can't believe this is my first post.

[JadePrince]

Vivienne, yes? No?

I can't believe this is my first post.

 

I was kinda thinking this, but also then thinking how if Vivienne knew we'd called her Miss Piggy, she would definitely pull out a Miss Piggy-style karate chop on us.

 

Edit: Also what do you mean, this is an AMAZING first post.

[Grieving Natashina]

Wow, you're not even trying.   This is honestly one of the most pathetic attempts at trolling I've seen on a gaming forum since I first got the net in 1994.  Way to go.

 

The iconless trolls with barely any postcount strike again, I see. 

 

You guys have fun.  I know I need to go to bed.  

[Hellion Rex]

Did you really make a new account just to do that?

Yup, I think he did. Reported him too.

[Shark17676]

<snip silly homophobic rant>

 

Not even going to give your drivel the time of day.  I just find it funny that you're making sock puppet accounts to do this, being too cowardly to post on your main account.  That being said, I have a pretty good idea who you really are.  I'll be sure to add that account along with this new one to my block list.

[pallascedar]

I was kinda thinking this, but also then thinking how if Vivienne knew we'd called her Miss Piggy, she would definitely pull out a Miss Piggy-style karate chop on us.

 

Edit: Also what do you mean, this is an AMAZING first post.

 

Will the inquisitor be Kermit then? Since we all want to romance her, but we won't be able to?

 

>_>. Maybe I should hide.

[Hellion Rex]

Not even going to give your drivel the time of day.  I just find it funny that you're making sock puppet accounts to do this, being too cowardly to post on your main account.  That being said, I have a pretty good idea who you really are.  I'll be sure to add that account along with this new one to my block list.

I think the first one got banned, hence the new account.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I believe Cass and Varric don't get along/see eye to eye either. 

Ah, I'd forgotten the bit about Varric not forgiving her for the interrogation process. I believe there have been some hints that the Inquisition leadership may be divided between Cassandra/Cullen and Leliana/Josephine, too. I've even sort of wondered if that's one of the reasons they want you to moderate.

[Deviija]

Will the inquisitor be Kermit then? Since we all want to romance her, but we won't be able to?

 

>_>. Maybe I should hide.

 

Well... we DO have a GREEN glowhand...

 

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[LobselVith8]

Ah, I'd forgotten the bit about Varric not forgiving her for the interrogation process. I believe there have been some hints that the Inquisition leadership may be divided between Cassandra/Cullen and Leliana/Josephine, too. I've even sort of wondered if that's one of the reasons they want you to moderate.

 

You think the Inquisitor isn't going to actually lead the Inquisition?

[HuldraDancer]

Muppet talk????? Muppet talk!!!!!

 

Iron Bull mix of these two~

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[JadePrince]

Will the inquisitor be Kermit then? Since we all want to romance her, but we won't be able to?

 

>_>. Maybe I should hide.

 

Kermit even has a green hand! (and a green other hand, and feet and everything else, but shhhh)

 

Edit: Ninja'd by Dev.