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[Grieving Natashina]

 

 

I'd be afraid that if I modded in such a manner, it would confuse the world state import system.

I just wanted to point out that with the DA Keep feature, you don't need to worry about your importing your save.  Apparently, there is going to be a lot of various "plot flags" that the player will be able to select that will affect your Inquisition game.  Details are little known, but what is known is that things such as the current ruler of Ferelden, whether or not you did the DR are among the many decision flags we can use to set our world state.

 

In short, why not use the mod once if you're curious?  You can always use the Keep to build your history.  

[pallascedar]

I just wanted to point out that with the DA Keep feature, you don't need to worry about your importing your save.  Apparently, there is going to be a lot of various "plot flags" that the player will be able to select that will affect your Inquisition game.  Details are little known, but what is known is that things such as the current ruler of Ferelden, whether or not you did the DR are among the many decision flags we can use to set our world state.

 

In short, why not use the mod once if you're curious?  You can always use the Keep to build your history.  

 

But the keep also checks for inconsistencies. I can probably promise you that the keep won't let you have a male warden that romanced Alistair .

[HuldraDancer]

I doubt it'll be the default name because s/he's not a qunari, she's a vashoth (although I still say that "bas" makes more sense since they don't differentiate between race so much as "qunari" and "not qunari," but it's the dev's world, I just play in it).  Still giving thought to naming her that on my first playthrough.

 

Oh I doubt that'll be the default name. I was meaning that I hope there is a default name in general otherwise I'll probably end up naming my qunari mage Saarebas since I'm lacking in creative name range (most of my mabaris for example are named either Ser Roid, RoidRanger, or Fred) (but I'm sure theres going to be after all they had them in the last two games so its safe to assume that they'd have a default name in this game too)

[GVulture]

I see a lot of people guessing that Iron Bull and Varric will be the race gated ones, but I feel a little doubtful. I don't really think they'll both be LIs. It's possible, but I think the gender numbers will be more even. There are four females that are probably open to romance. It's possible there are some we don't know about, but I believe they'll stick with companions and advisors as what they consider full romances. So, I think there will be 3-4 female romances and 3-4 male romances. For the males..

 

Cole - All but fully, undeniably confirmed he wont be a romance. HEAVILY implied not to be.

Blackwall - It's possible he is, but I think he's probably too old and close to his calling.

 

Cullen - Confirmed to be an LI.

Dorian - He most fits the standard for an LI out of all the companions. I will be very surprised if he's not a romance for SOMEONE.

 

 

This is the group I'm on the fence about --

 

Solas - We really know very little about him. People will assume he is going to be, because he's the only male elf and that's popular. He's been very popular with the female demographic and I know a lot of girls will be disappointed if he's not available. What makes me uncertain is that we just know so little about him that we can't be sure there isn't a strong reason why he wouldn't be a romance.

 

Iron Bull - A lot of people have assumed he's an option because of the comments that he'll have sex with anyone. I'm still really uncertain, because he is still a "real" Qunari. Establishing a relationship is against their philosophy. What would happen if he did? Would he have to leave the Qunari? Would he have to try to hide it? Would it even be something he wanted to do? I still wouldn't be surprised if he was just a fling or even not available, but I'm also not totally willing to rule it out.

 

Varric - I have a hard time not seeing Varric as straight after DA2, but I also have a hard time seeing them give the straight females a dwarven, restricted character as their "exclusive". Most people play humans and he would be restricted from humans? But I also don't feel confident that they'll be adding an extra, hetero exclusive to females on top of Solas, Cullen, or whoever else it is. It's more just that I don't think they'll be pushing the numbers that high. It's possible he could be bisexual. It wouldn't be the first time a character only showed interest in one gender, was vocal about that interest, and then turned out bi later. (ilu Anders) I don't think they'll do two race gated bi male companions, though, so I feel like it would be either Varric or Iron Bull and not both. With the hints we got before about Bianca maybe still kicking around, I think Iron Bull may be more likely, but I guess we just have to wait and see.

 

 

I realize I'm making a lot of assumptions here, but that's all we really have right now. 

I know a lot of girls that will be said if Dorian isn't available for ladies too. I think they may have designed that one too well.

 

Because of the lack of info on Solas, I can see him not being romancable. No matter how popular the elven romances are. If he is romancable, he would definitely be bi or straight. I agree that they wouldn't make both the elves s/s only... unless that was something that was completely missed during the development process. Which I can't see.

 

Blackwall... the way you describe it makes him sound like Thane AND the Calling isn't something they've addressed in the games in detail... So... lots of potential LI angst there.

 

Your point about Varric and IB is interesting. You could argue them either way, romancable or not...

 

I kinda wonder if they will stick to their guns and keep Varric single. Because I have never heard a dev talk about Varric in anyway other than "HE IS THE BEST BRO EVER!"

 

Also... Mary Kirby. Notorious for writing the unromancable.

[Clockwork_Wings]

I just wanted to point out that with the DA Keep feature, you don't need to worry about your importing your save.  Apparently, there is going to be a lot of various "plot flags" that the player will be able to select that will affect your Inquisition game.  Details are little known, but what is known is that things such as the current ruler of Ferelden, whether or not you did the DR are among the many decision flags we can use to set our world state.

 

In short, why not use the mod once if you're curious?  You can always use the Keep to build your history.  

Because mods don't apply to my game. 

 

I was actually speaking of DAO into DA2.  I've wondered if one can use the keep to import into 2, but I doubt it.  One can hope, though.

 

I'd like the romances in DAI to vary decently.  Some end happy, some end sadly, some in happy if and only if you do them correctly.  I'd be okay with Blackwall being a LI and it ends with him sacrificing himself for the inquisition or taking his calling, as long as my inquisitor gets to spend a long, happy life with someone else.

 

...actually I'd like a surrogate Garrus romance, that's just altogether nice, largely free of emotional baggage, performed by a well-written, likeable LI who actually gets to take the PC up on finding out what their children would look like.

[Deviija]

 

I've barely interacted, but you seem the type to keep me on my toes. 

 

 

Heh.  My husband often reminds me that this is one of the one of the reasons how he knew I was the one for him.  Keeping him on his toes.  

 

What would happen if he did? Would he have to leave the Qunari? Would he have to try to hide it? Would it even be something he wanted to do? I still wouldn't be surprised if he was just a fling or even not available, but I'm also not totally willing to rule it out.

 

Such things would be worth exploring in such a romance with such an LI, though, yes?  I think it would be very informative and possibly interesting, so long as it doesn't turn into a soapy "being the gay/in love makes me give up everything and feel miserable, abloohoohoo."

[GVulture]

Because mods don't apply to my game. 

 

I was actually speaking of DAO into DA2.  I've wondered if one can use the keep to import into 2, but I doubt it.  One can hope, though.

 

I'd like the romances in DAI to vary decently.  Some end happy, some end sadly, some in happy if and only if you do them correctly.  I'd be okay with Blackwall being a LI and it ends with him sacrificing himself for the inquisition or taking his calling, as long as my inquisitor gets to spend a long, happy life with someone else.

 

...actually I'd like a surrogate Garrus romance, that's just altogether nice, largely free of emotional baggage, performed by a well-written, likeable LI who actually gets to take the PC up on finding out what their children would look like.

Or ending with the Inquisitor dying to save the world leaving a man that was resigned to death and could feel his Calling upon him wishing for just a little bit more time with his Inquisitior.

[Clockwork_Wings]

I know a lot of girls that will be said if Dorian isn't available for ladies too. I think they may have designed that one too well.

 

Because of the lack of info on Solas, I can see him not being romancable. No matter how popular the elven romances are. If he is romancable, he would definitely be bi or straight. I agree that they wouldn't make both the elves s/s only... unless that was something that was completely missed during the development process. Which I can't see.

 

Blackwall... the way you describe it makes him sound like Thane AND the Calling isn't something they've addressed in the games in detail... So... lots of potential LI angst there.

 

Your point about Varric and IB is interesting. You could argue them either way, romancable or not...

 

I kinda wonder if they will stick to their guns and keep Varric single. Because I have never heard a dev talk about Varric in anyway other than "HE IS THE BEST BRO EVER!"

 

Also... Mary Kirby. Notorious for writing the unromancable.

Some have pointed out how often we get an elf romance.  They may be mixing that up a bit, the one female elf LI being genergated, and the other unromancable completely. 

 

Aside from Cole, though, I don't see any reason while all the companions, plus Cullen and Scribbles, couldn't be romancable.  They're of age, not animals, and not genetically related to the PC.  If we're lucky, maybe they're all romanacble to someone. 

 

Wouldn't it be funny if Cullen is classgated, and only available to mages?

[Phoe77]

I'd like the romances in DAI to vary decently.  Some end happy, some end sadly, some in happy if and only if you do them correctly.  I'd be okay with Blackwall being a LI and it ends with him sacrificing himself for the inquisition or taking his calling, as long as my inquisitor gets to spend a long, happy life with someone else.

 

I don't know how I feel about this idea.  On one hand it's absolutely cool to have a variety of outcomes instead of having everything work out, but on the other I would probably feel a little bit jipped if I knew that a romance with my preferred LI would always end in angst and sadness.  It would be cool though if the romances had a little bit of branching to them though.  That way you could go into a romance with, say, Blackwall and influence whether or not it would be happy or sad.  That would also be a lot more work though I imagine.

[Clockwork_Wings]

 

 

 

 

Heh.  My husband often reminds me that this is one of the one of the reasons how he knew I was the one for him.  Keeping him on his toes.  

 

 

Such things would be worth exploring in such a romance with such an LI, though, yes?  I think it would be very informative and possibly interesting, so long as it doesn't turn into a soapy "being the gay/in love makes me give up everything and feel miserable, abloohoohoo."

 

That does sound like a fun arc, and my notion on why the inqunisitor's parents left the qun, they fell in love. 

 

Or ending with the Inquisitor dying to save the world leaving a man that was resigned to death and could feel his Calling upon him wishing for just a little bit more time with his Inquisitior.

Ouch.

[GVulture]

Some have pointed out how often we get an elf romance.  They may be mixing that up a bit, the one female elf LI being genergated, and the other unromancable completely. 

 

Aside from Cole, though, I don't see any reason while all the companions, plus Cullen and Scribbles, couldn't be romancable.  They're of age, not animals, and not genetically related to the PC.  If we're lucky, maybe they're all romanacble to someone. 

 

Wouldn't it be funny if Cullen is classgated, and only available to mages?

It kinda feels a bit odd that they have so many men to choose from this time around. With only ONE as the clear "DO NOT PASS GO".

 

In DA2 the cast was so small you barely notice that Aveline and Varric aren't romancable.

 

But with almost all the ladies up for grabs in some way kinda makes me want to dole out all the men too.

[Deviija]

Or ending with the Inquisitor dying to save the world leaving a man that was resigned to death and could feel his Calling upon him wishing for just a little bit more time with his Inquisitior.

 

[Clockwork_Wings]

I don't know how I feel about this idea.  On one hand it's absolutely cool to have a variety of outcomes instead of having everything work out, but on the other I would probably feel a little bit jipped if I knew that a romance with my preferred LI would always end in angst and sadness.  It would be cool though if the romances had a little bit of branching to them though.  That way you could go into a romance with, say, Blackwall and influence whether or not it would be happy or sad.  That would also be a lot more work though I imagine.

I'd heard somewhere around here that a major reason the ME3 endings were so reviled was because they were all bittersweeet.  Every.  Single.  One. 

 

That wasn't edgy, that was just...cruel. 

 

A good story needs ups and downs.  I'd no more want all positive outcomes (as much as I will try to achieve as many as I can) than I would all negative. 

 

The branching sounds like a good idea.  I imagine some romances, like Blackwalls, would be harder to have happy endings.

 

And I hope they bring back the ending slider.

[Gearwarden]

I have a feeling that Blackwall will get the Thane treatment if you romance him...

[GVulture]

I'd heard somewhere around here that a major reason the ME3 endings were so reviled was because they were all bittersweeet.  Every.  Single.  One. 

 

That wasn't edgy, that was just...cruel. 

 

A good story needs ups and downs.  I'd no more want all positive outcomes (as much as I will try to achieve as many as I can) than I would all negative. 

 

The branching sounds like a good idea.  I imagine some romances, like Blackwalls, would be harder to have happy endings.

 

And I hope they bring back the ending slider.

That and the dues ex machina control/destroy/synthesis buttons and the fact that the entire ending flies in the face of two game's worth of narrative... but hey... let's make it dumb enough for the CoD players we hope to attract artistic integrity... right?

[Clockwork_Wings]

It kinda feels a bit odd that they have so many men to choose from this time around. With only ONE as the clear "DO NOT PASS GO".

 

In DA2 the cast was so small you barely notice that Aveline and Varric aren't romancable.

 

But with almost all the ladies up for grabs in some way kinda makes me want to dole out all the men too.

I had the game for about a year before I realized Hawke could try their luck with Aveline. 

 

I think it might be fun if nearly all the nonromancable companions and NPCs were like Aveline or Mordin.  The inquisitor doesn't know they're not available.

 

It glitches every time I've done that but Zev is supposed to turn Isabella down if he romanced the warden.

 

That's a fun story, too.  I romance my Lady Couslands to Zev and marry them to a thoroughly friendzoned Alistair.  *Mordin's voice* Political arrangement, not uncommon among nobles.

[Phoe77]

A good story needs ups and downs.  I'd no more want all positive outcomes (as much as I will try to achieve as many as I can) than I would all negative. 

 

The branching sounds like a good idea.  I imagine some romances, like Blackwalls, would be harder to have happy endings.

 

Yeah, variety is the spice of life and it also makes for a more compelling plot.  I just know myself well enough to know that if I went into a romance knowing that it was going to end poorly I'd be focused on waiting for the other shoe to drop.  I'd still go for the sad ending occasionally of course, but I just would be kind of sad if it was unavoidable.  

 

However, it also bears stating that what I consider happy or sad depends on the circumstances.  A happy ending (no pun intended) with Blackwall would be different than a happy ending with Sera or Cullen.  With Blackwall, I'd be willing to call a conclusion that doesn't  constantly harp on the Calling pretty happy.  

[Maria Caliban]

I have a feeling that Blackwall will get the Thane treatment if you romance him...

Dragon Age team has shown no interest in giving any PC or LI a 'happy ending,' and they view love interests with serious drama as a good thing.

If Blackwall is close to his Calling, or his inevitable death hangs over interactions with him, that would no way make him less romancable in developer eyes.

[GVulture]

Yeah, variety is the spice of life and it also makes for a more compelling plot.  I just know myself well enough to know that if I went into a romance knowing that it was going to end poorly I'd be focused on waiting for the other shoe to drop.  I'd still go for the sad ending occasionally of course, but I just would be kind of sad if it was unavoidable.  

 

However, it also bears stating that what I consider happy or sad depends on the circumstances.  A happy ending (no pun intended) with Blackwall would be different than a happy ending with Sera or Cullen.  With Blackwall, I'd be willing to call a conclusion that doesn't  constantly harp on the Calling pretty happy.  

Especially when you can just have the conclusion of the romance not involve The Calling and the fandom will headcanon their happily ever after and pirate AUs until proven otherwise.

[Gearwarden]

Dragon Age team has shown no interest in giving any PC or LI a 'happy ending,' and they view love interests with serious drama as a good thing.

If Blackwall is close to his Calling, or his inevitable death hangs over interactions with him, that would no way make him less romancable in developer eyes.

True enough. Im more interested in Solas myself

[Clockwork_Wings]

Yeah, variety is the spice of life and it also makes for a more compelling plot.  I just know myself well enough to know that if I went into a romance knowing that it was going to end poorly I'd be focused on waiting for the other shoe to drop.  I'd still go for the sad ending occasionally of course, but I just would be kind of sad if it was unavoidable.  

 

However, it also bears stating that what I consider happy or sad depends on the circumstances.  A happy ending (no pun intended) with Blackwall would be different than a happy ending with Sera or Cullen.  With Blackwall, I'd be willing to call a conclusion that doesn't  constantly harp on the Calling pretty happy.  

I saw a happy ending with Blackwall being him living long enough to take his Calling.  He seems resigned to his fate. 

 

A lot like Thane, actually. 

 

Never romanced Thane, actually.  But that was my second most-moving scenes, reading the prayer with him. 

 

"May she be a companion to you, as she was to me."

[HuldraDancer]

Drama one of the reasons I hardly romanced Alistair in DAO. I can see how it would appeal to some but not everyone wants a drama filled romance (one of the reasons why I think Varric was very popular along with Aveline had a lot to due with the fact that they didn't have a ton of drama going on with them) I'd either like a little say (or a little warning) in weather or not my PCs relationship with their LI is going to be good or bad or at least have a variety among the LIs having some not ending in drama drama. I also would really not rather see a ton of stupid hoop jumping coming back for your LI too like making Alistair sleep with Morrigan so you both can live and stay together (unless he dumps you then your keeping him alive to keep him as king I suppose) Point is I'd rather not see silly stuff like that return cause I got tired fast of an Alistair romance mainly because of the whole thing with him being King and/or the DR.

[Clockwork_Wings]

Drama one of the reasons I hardly romanced Alistair in DAO. I can see how it would appeal to some but not everyone wants a drama filled romance (one of the reasons why I think Varric was very popular along with Aveline had a lot to due with the fact that they didn't have a ton of drama going on with them) I'd either like a little say (or a little warning) in weather or not my PCs relationship with their LI is going to be good or bad or at least have a variety among the LIs having some not ending in drama drama. I also would really not rather see a ton of stupid hoop jumping coming back for your LI too like making Alistair sleep with Morrigan so you both can live and stay together (unless he dumps you then your keeping him alive to keep him as king I suppose) Point is I'd rather not see silly stuff like that return cause I got tired fast of an Alistair romance mainly because of the whole thing with him being King and/or the DR.

There's drama and then there's melodrama.  The king having a mage or an elf or a dwarf on the side is an interesting story waiting to happen.  Can't wait to see how that plays out in the next game, if Alistair is king and the warden is still hims lady. 

[Clockwork_Wings]

I'm having a tough time you guys.

I used to think Cullen was the only one for my unnamed inquisitor.
Then I was sort of led astray by the gruff manliness that is Blackwall-
Then I saw that iron bull was so....big.
But then I was distracted by Dorians Strong and chiseled features.

And now I don't know what order to do them!

I'm waiting to see who my saarabas falls for.  Have my fingers crossed for Varric, and romancing her to Cullen might be funny, and Dorian might be a Romeo and Juliet-type story with a qunari, and I'm excited about Iron Bull being in the game at all...so I've just thrown my hands in the air and decided she'll wait and pick who she wants.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, TVtropes describes a female elf as the most hated character in the game (I think they missed a class descriptor there), so I'm playing a female qunari mage to make the most hated character in the series.  Romancing her to Dorian, with Tevinter's long, problematic history with the qunari, would be a barrel of laughs.