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[TheodoricFriede]

And now I don't know what order to do them!

Isnt it tradition to go by order of size?

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Such things would be worth exploring in such a romance with such an LI, though, yes?  I think it would be very informative and possibly interesting, so long as it doesn't turn into a soapy "being the gay/in love makes me give up everything and feel miserable, abloohoohoo."

 

I think it depends on what they plan to do with Iron Bull. If they want him to remain as a part of the Qun and return in future materials in that capacity, I can't see how he can really have a relationship with the Inquisitor. They talk a lot about his issues with the Qun, though, and if they want him to detach from the philosophy, then I could see this being another part of the push. 

 

The selfish side of me doesn't really want him filling a bisexual slot, though. I have zero interest in Iron Bull, Blackwall or Varric. So, from a purely self interested perspective, I admit I've rather have the one or two bisexual male slots filled by Dorian, Cullen, or Solas. 

[HuldraDancer]

There's drama and then there's melodrama.  The king having a mage or an elf or a dwarf on the side is an interesting story waiting to happen.  Can't wait to see how that plays out in the next game, if Alistair is king and the warden is still hims lady. 

It was the amount of hoops that they threw that I got tired of, I agree that some of that can be interesting but for me it got to the point where I was rolling my eyes at the new drama moments  I'll still do his romance once in a while I'm about to do a city elf playthrough with him but I'm more 'ehh' about him than say when I first started to play. I don't dislike drama persay it can be quite fun if done right but there is a such thing as piling too much on and for me they piled too much on for Alistair and I hope they don't repeat that for a LI in DAI

[Maria Caliban]

Then I saw that iron bull was so....big.

Big is nice.

It was the amount of hoops that they threw that I got tired of...

The hoop was 'Don't force Alistiar into a position he hates.'

If you love him that much, don't make him king. If you think he needs to be king because of duty or something, then realize he'll show the same priorities as you do.

[Reznore57]

I'm having a tough time you guys.

I used to think Cullen was the only one for my unnamed inquisitor.
Then I was sort of led astray by the gruff manliness that is Blackwall-
Then I saw that iron bull was so....big.
But then I was distracted by Dorians Strong and chiseled features.

And now I don't know what order to do them!

 

You too ?

To be honest I'd "bang" all the guys.

And Solas , Varric , I think they are hot too.

It's like Bioware is torturing me.

[TheodoricFriede]

Big is nice.


The hoop was 'Don't force Alistiar into a position he hates.'

If you love him that much, don't make him king. If you think he needs to be king because of duty or something, then realize he'll show the same priorities as you do.

Or harden him. Which i feel was the better option anyway.

 

He actually enjoys the position after you do that.

 

Im fairly certain he keeps you as his queen too.

 

Also, if you dont make him king, doesn't Anora have him killed?

[HuldraDancer]

Big is nice.


The hoop was 'Don't force Alistiar into a position he hates.'

If you love him that much, don't make him king. If you think he needs to be king because of duty or something, then realize he'll show the same priorities as you do.

 

I think you misunderstand me. I was not whining about Alistair dumping me if he became king I just said the amount of hoops you go through is annoying. Like I said I like drama it can be fun at times but when its piled up sky high it gets annoying and Alistair piled on a lot of drama. A LOT of it in my opinion.

 

Edit: As soon as I posted this I realized I should probably explain more what I mean. Making him King okay you know what your getting into there so its expected that he dumps you I get that might be annoying for some but I get it. DR um okay so to keep the future king alive because either you love him or you don't trust Anora you got to pimp Alistair out to Morrigan or sacrifice yourself hmmm...... Okay so I didn't pimp him out cause I'll take the final blow but I'll bring him with me (because from a story stand point it would be stupid not too) Archdemon is almost dead okay I'll take the final blow but wait Alistiar is going in to take it for me after I put him as King and he realized he needed to live really? REALLY?! Those are the kind of hoopsI really hate and that was my first playthrough of the game so it may have soured me a bit I'll admit, I still don't want to see that amount of hoops with other LIs though.

[Phoe77]

This is newfound territory for me too.  Usually the men I'm most interesting in aren't available, but this time there are so many sexy guys that I'm almost guaranteed to have someone I like.  

[Clockwork_Wings]

It was the amount of hoops that they threw that I got tired of, I agree that some of that can be interesting but for me it got to the point where I was rolling my eyes at the new drama moments  I'll still do his romance once in a while I'm about to do a city elf playthrough with him but I'm more 'ehh' about him than say when I first started to play. I don't dislike drama persay it can be quite fun if done right but there is a such thing as piling too much on and for me they piled too much on for Alistair and I hope they don't repeat that for a LI in DAI

Most of my girls romance him, or at least marry him.  My dwarf ladies like to argue with Anora over whether any children of hers and Alistair's deserve the same rights and privileges as Anora and Alistair's (which is not only common, but encouraged in dwarf culture) Alistair does not like to be around for this.

 

I do find Alistair to be a bit milquetoast, he's kind of endearing in his plain vanilla sweetness, and I like imagining the gossips in DAI saying stuff like, "Did you hear?  The king's got a soft spot for mages.  You know that warden what slayed the archedemon?  The king's mistress!"

 

I think it depends on what they plan to do with Iron Bull. If they want him to remain as a part of the Qun and return in future materials in that capacity, I can't see how he can really have a relationship with the Inquisitor. They talk a lot about his issues with the Qun, though, and if they want him to detach from the philosophy, then I could see this being another part of the push. 

 

The selfish side of me doesn't really want him filling a bisexual slot, though. I have zero interest in Iron Bull, Blackwall or Varric. So, from a purely self interested perspective, I admit I've rather have the one or two bisexual male slots filled by Dorian, Cullen, or Solas. 

Somebody theorized instead of 2/2/2 they might be doing 2/4/2, which I think, would be the best way to go if they feel they must have set sexualities.  It's possible that Iron Bull filling a bisexual slot won't take up as much space as you think it might. 

 

From what I saw of his bio, Iron Bull is still technically a practicing qunari but having self-doubt and clearly going native at a rapid pace.  It might be fun to romance him to a qunari born in outside of the qun.  If the romances branch, we could choose to pull him out of the qun entirely, maybe culminating in a wedding ceremony (which I think they've denied already) or in some form becoming a "one turian kind of guy), or push him back him, with the romance continuing qunari-style, calling her "kadan" (which I would be okay with from the start), which would probably by that point amount to romancing Sabastian. 

[Grieving Natashina]

But the keep also checks for inconsistencies. I can probably promise you that the keep won't let you have a male warden that romanced Alistair .

That's been actually directly stated by Allan recently.  So I wasn't trying to suggest that.  

 

Because mods don't apply to my game. 

 

I was actually speaking of DAO into DA2.  I've wondered if one can use the keep to import into 2, but I doubt it.  One can hope, though.

 

I'd like the romances in DAI to vary decently.  Some end happy, some end sadly, some in happy if and only if you do them correctly.  I'd be okay with Blackwall being a LI and it ends with him sacrificing himself for the inquisition or taking his calling, as long as my inquisitor gets to spend a long, happy life with someone else.

 

...actually I'd like a surrogate Garrus romance, that's just altogether nice, largely free of emotional baggage, performed by a well-written, likeable LI who actually gets to take the PC up on finding out what their children would look like.

 

I was trying to get that you can at least check it out once and see how you like it as a stand-alone thing.  That's all.  

 

I'm torn about Blackwall as a LI.  On the one hand, having a tragic romance can and has worked well for BioWare in the past.  On the other hand, I'm still iffy about all the companions (minus Cole, obviously) being possible LIs.  It isn't anything against Blackwall, so please don't mistake me there.  Of course, he could make for a good romance in the sense of "I'll have and keep love while I still can. " 

 

Spoiler

Much like Thane.  Tragic or not, his romance was well written, and watching femShep cry at his recording in the Citadel DLC from ME3 really pulled at my heart.

 

And I'm all about a Garrus-style romance.  Having a great friend with all the above listed qualities would be a very welcome change after DA2. The LIs were great, but the only one that seemed even a little happy and secure in who they were was Isabela. Also, that was a nice summation of Garrus' personality.  For those that haven't played the ME games, that's the character in a nutshell.

[Clockwork_Wings]

That's been actually directly stated by Allan recently.  So I wasn't trying to suggest that.  

 

 

I was trying to get that you can at least check it out once and see how you like it as a stand-alone thing.  That's all.  

 

I'm torn about Blackwall as a LI.  On the one hand, having a tragic romance can and has worked well for BioWare in the past.  On the other hand, I'm still iffy about all the companions (minus Cole, obviously) being possible LIs.  It isn't anything against Blackwall, so please don't mistake me there.  Of course, he could make for a good romance in the sense of "I'll have and keep love while I still can. " 

 

Spoiler

Much like Thane.  Tragic or not, his romance was well written, and watching femShep cry at his recording in the Citadel DLC from ME3 really pulled at my heart.

 

And I'm all about a Garrus-style romance.  Having a great friend with all the above listed qualities would be a very welcome change after DA2. The LIs were great, but the only one that seemed even a little happy and secure in who they were was Isabela. Also, that was a nice summation of Garrus' personality.  For those that haven't played the ME games, that's the character in a nutshell.

I can't mod.  Console gamer. 

 

Haven't played Citadel but I've seen Garrus tango.  Which pretty much confirmed I never have to romance another character in any other game, ever, he's enough. 

 

I don't think Isabela is as happy and secure as she says she is.  I'm pretty sure she's a rampant hedonist because she's covering up the pain she feels for her past. 

 

All of them in 2 suited the characters, but they all boiled down to "Woe!  No one could ever love me!"  I'd like to see them shake it up a bit in DAI.

 

One neat thing is that Alistair/Zevran and Morrigan/Lelaiana are opposites of one another, fragile and inexperienced vs. wild hedonist with a dark streak, bad girl/good girl.

[Grieving Natashina]

I can't mod.  Console gamer. 

 

Haven't played Citadel but I've seen Garrus tango.  Which pretty much confirmed I never have to romance another character in any other game, ever, he's enough. 

 

I don't think Isabela is as happy and secure as she says she is.  I'm pretty sure she's a rampant hedonist because she's covering up the pain she feels for her past. 

 

All of them in 2 suited the characters, but they all boiled down to "Woe!  No one could ever love me!"  I'd like to see them shake it up a bit in DAI.

 

One neat thing is that Alistair/Zevran and Morrigan/Lelaiana are opposites of one another, fragile and inexperienced vs. wild hedonist with a dark streak, bad girl/good girl.

I don't think Isabela is all that secure or happy either, but at least she didn't seem to try to drown Hawke in most of her sorrows.  Otherwise, I agree about the characters in 2.

 

They really did make wonderful contrasts.  I can see Cass and Sera filling part of this role.  Maybe Solas and Iron Bull are going to prove to be complete opposites.  I'd still like to know more about Solas other than his occupation.  

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Somebody theorized instead of 2/2/2 they might be doing 2/4/2, which I think, would be the best way to go if they feel they must have set sexualities.  It's possible that Iron Bull filling a bisexual slot won't take up as much space as you think it might. 

 

From what I saw of his bio, Iron Bull is still technically a practicing qunari but having self-doubt and clearly going native at a rapid pace.  It might be fun to romance him to a qunari born in outside of the qun.  If the romances branch, we could choose to pull him out of the qun entirely, maybe culminating in a wedding ceremony (which I think they've denied already) or in some form becoming a "one turian kind of guy), or push him back him, with the romance continuing qunari-style, calling her "kadan" (which I would be okay with from the start), which would probably by that point amount to romancing Sabastian. 

Well, there would be 3 slots for m/m relationships then, and there are 3 males I would actually romance. So, if I'm going purely on what I *want*, it's still not Iron Bull. I'm not going to have a tantrum about it or anything. I mean, I'm totally capable of being happy with two choices I like. Even one is only a bit of a let down. I'm just saying, for my preferences, personally, I'd rather he wasn't.

 

That being said, though, I wouldn't be surprised if he's a bi romance if they do 2/4/2. 

[Deviija]

And now I don't know what order to do them!

 

All at once?  Origins did offer foursomes.  Likely to be overwhelming, though.  

[Phoe77]

I would really like a mature man who's confident and comfortable being who he is after the guys we got in DA2.  Not to say that they were bad, but both guys had a pretty big "I hate a part of myself" shtick.  

[Clockwork_Wings]

Well, there would be 3 slots for m/m relationships then, and there are 3 males I would actually romance. So, if I'm going purely on what I *want*, it's still not Iron Bull. I'm not going to have a tantrum about it or anything. I mean, I'm totally capable of being happy with two choices I like. Even one is only a bit of a let down. I'm just saying, for my preferences, personally, I'd rather he wasn't.

That being said, though, I wouldn't be surprised if he's a bi romance if they do 2/4/2.

Yeah, nobody but Varric and Iron Bull do much for me, and with Iron Bull it's his qunari not his form, and while his personality sounds good so far, we don't know it fully yet. If they're not available or gated off from my saarabas, I'm sure I'll find something to like about the others.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I wonder what the reaction would be if Sera was the only gender gated character, or if it were, say, Sera and then Cassandra was straight to balance that side of things. How would everyone feel about that? Like, if the demographics were like this;

 

Cassandra - Straight

Sera - Lesbian

Vivienne - Bisexual

Scribbles - Bisexual

 

Solas or Iron Bull - Bisexual

Dorian - Bisexual

Cullen - Bisexual

 

(One less male LI so everyone gets the same numbers.)

 

Do you think that's fair, if everyone gets the same numbers? Or is it unfair if some people get excluded or if some people get exclusives and others don't?

 

If I'm being totally honest, I would be happy with it. It's easier for me to deal with a romance not existing than knowing it's there and I can't do it. Totally personal preference. But I think fairness is tied to how many numbers everyone gets and how much content is behind them, so I don't think it's unfair. I don't think gating is unfair if it's evenly distributed, either, but I agree with the dev comments that in-game races aren't as important to cater to as real world demographics.    

[Phoe77]

I wouldn't be angry about it or anything, but I would think it was weird and I wouldn't like it very much.  

 

I could also see how people might be a bit offended that they would make a female character exclusively and specifically same-sex and then not do the same with a male character.  People still point to how Mass Effect only allowed for a "same sex" romance for female characters.  

 

I also like to think that a character being exclusively gay or exclusively straight will have some bearing on how they come across in the game and in a romance in particular.  We'll see if that turns out to be the case.

[Samahl]

I really, really want Cassandra to be bi. I need her and my female qunari together.

[Clockwork_Wings]

It occurs to me maybe when they say a character is struggling with their sexuality, they may not mean homosexuality. Maybe Iron Bull, who isn't full tal-vashoth, isn't sure he should like his escapades, or some such.

[KC_Prototype]

I wonder what the reaction would be if Sera was the only gender gated character, or if it were, say, Sera and then Cassandra was straight to balance that side of things. How would everyone feel about that? Like, if the demographics were like this;

 

Cassandra - Straight

Sera - Lesbian

Vivienne - Bisexual

Scribbles - Bisexual

 

Solas or Iron Bull - Bisexual

Dorian - Bisexual

Cullen - Bisexual

 

(One less male LI so everyone gets the same numbers.)

 

Do you think that's fair, if everyone gets the same numbers? Or is it unfair if some people get excluded or if some people get exclusives and others don't?

 

If I'm being totally honest, I would be happy with it. It's easier for me to deal with a romance not existing than knowing it's there and I can't do it. Totally personal preference. But I think fairness is tied to how many numbers everyone gets and how much content is behind them, so I don't think it's unfair. I don't think gating is unfair if it's evenly distributed, either, but I agree with the dev comments that in-game races aren't as important to cater to as real world demographics.    

Cullen would be straight as well if this were true. They would have a straight male and female LI.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I wouldn't be angry about it or anything, but I would think it was weird and I wouldn't like it very much.  

 

I could also see how people might be a bit offended that they would make a female character exclusively and specifically same-sex and then not do the same with a male character.  People still point to how Mass Effect only allowed for a "same sex" romance for female characters.  

 

I also like to think that a character being exclusively gay or exclusively straight will have some bearing on how they come across in the game and in a romance in particular.  We'll see if that turns out to be the case.

Well, until Mass Effect 3, they literally only allowed any same sex romances for females, via Liara and NPCs as bisexual options. There were no bisexual males at all. I think that situation is different than this by quite a lot.  

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Cullen would be straight as well if this were true. They would have a straight male and female LI.

There's no reason that would need to be so. They had a straight male in DA2 and no straight female. 

 

I actually think it's more likely that there is a straight and gay LI of both genders, but there's absolutely nothing saying there has to be. There's even a set precedent for there not to be.

[Tamyn]

Yeah, nobody but Varric and Iron Bull do much for me

 

 

Funny. Out of the possibilities, they are the only two that I have zero romantic interest in and likely never will.

[Phoe77]

Well, until Mass Effect 3, they literally only allowed any same sex romances for females, via Liara and NPCs as bisexual options. There were no bisexual males at all. I think that situation is different than this by quite a lot.  

 

It's different in several ways, but it still allows for portions of the fanbase to feel marginalized.  I don't typically let myself get annoyed by that kind of thing, but even I would be irritated if there was a same sex exclusive romance for females while gay males would only have bisexual partners to choose from.  It can be seen as implying that lesbianism is more acceptable to display than two exclusively gay men.