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[Grieving Natashina]

Happy 700 pages, all.  

[javeart]

Happy 700 pages, all.  

I feel like the 600 celebration was so recent! And we don't even have any news to talk about 

[javeart]

That would be an awesome twist !   

The Big Bad is in fact the Warden. Oh my.

 

There was a "IGN rewind" video about DA:I and they actually evoked this theory ^^. 

 

Also, the fact that someone said recently (I think it might have even been in this thread?) that DAI was the sequel they originally planed for DAO, makes me thing that the Gray Warden can play a big role too.

 

In any event, there has to be a traitor, whatever the treason it's about. It might be a little too typical, but I always have fun with that kind of twist. And with any luck, we might be able to choose to support her/him (fingers crossed)

[LukaCrosszeria]

Thanks *hugs*

 

I didn't join the BSN until pretty late and mainly lurked in Scuttlebutt so I missed a ton ^^; Ah well not a big deal now right?

 

They started cause of the hat didn't they? Other than the headwear I can't think of them being similar all that much^^;

Actually David Gaider said they based her design on Malificent, so yeah

 

I wonder if I could borrow her hat. Especially with my Qunari inquisitor.

[mrpoultry]

http://www.hdwallpap...en-pictures.jpg Late to the party, but I thought this was appropriate for Varric.

[Grieving Natashina]

Welcome!  I love the name, and that's a very cute cute pup.  

[wright1978]

I think maybe it is a bit slanted towards Chantry supporters, but this is especially so if you're straight, since Cassandra and Cullen are among the most pro-Chantry in the group. If you're doing same-sex relationships, Dorian and Sera make it much less pronounced. 

 

For bisexual options, Iron Bull is not a Chantry supporter, but I wouldn't romance him if I were a mage/pro-mage. The Qun is like tenfold worse towards mages than the Chantry. Vivienne is a pro-circle mage, which is also not great if you're pro-mage. Josephine's actual views are a pretty big question mark, but she's a friend of Leliana's and Antivans tend towards strong Chantry support. The remaining male possibilities all seem to be pretty politically neutral. Varric and Solas neither seem to be allied with any religion to a strong extent. Blackwall hasn't given a strong impression of it, either, and the wardens tend to not favor other political groups.

 

It seems that the Chantry slant is most pronounced if you're a straight male and least pronounced if you're a gay male. I don't think we can always expect to see LIs from every political background for every demographic. That's stretching a bit hard. It has been noted in the "tropes" thread that strong Andrastrians tend to be hetero, though.

 

Yeah the pro establishment & Chantry slant seems present in the straight male options, which is unfortunate imo. It is among the many reasons i was disappointed about the fact Sera was revealed to be a Lesbian as she seemed the one non establishment female LI. It may turn out that Vivienne & or Josie despite perceptions aren't of the establishment/chantry at all but right now the make-up seems lacking the diversity of views that i'd like as a roleplayer.

[Urazz]

I think since you can't actually destroy the Chantry in DAI, the most you could do is lessen some of the power the Chantry has by like keeping the Inquisition separate from it, ensuring the Chantry has no part in the resolution in the mage/Templar war and the Orlesian Civil War.

 

I don't think those like Cassandra and Cullen, for example, will mind that so much as long as you phrase it right when they inevitably question you about that choice.  As long as you don't act like you want to destroy the Chantry, I think they'll be fine with it.  Sure Cassandra and Cullen are religious but they strike me as more about doing the right thing than focusing on making the Chantry stronger.

 

With Vivienne, I think she'll be fine with any kind of solution to the Mage/Templar war that reinstates the Circle in some fashion where it doesn't have to be exactly like it was.  As long as she can be in a position of power in it, I think she'll be happy.

[PurePazaak]

I posted this over in the Solas thread, but here's my reasoning on why I'm hoping the one of the last LI options is Solas...

(It's so hard to keep up with this thread! )

I'm still really hoping for Solas as an LI to offset some of our other male options...so here are a few musings on why I really would like him as a LI, aside from his  appearance :

• Straight females need someone who is less bulky and masculine; all of the other options are stocky male warriors, so I really wouldn't want Blackwall as an LI for variety's sake. Even Varric, while not large and not a warrior, is till stocky and failry solid in his physique. Being a thinner mage (dem thighs and dat Solass) would be a nice counterpart to the other male characters.
• Solas is the only potential male mage for straight females (and possibly bi women if Viv isn't an option). This would provide us with a LI who is more pro-mage as a nice counterbalance to Cullen and Iron Bull who may be more opposed to the idea of mage freedom. Not sure about Varric though.
• Solas is also non-human, which is a nice change, rather than having both Cullen and Blackwall available for straight women, and also Dorian for gay and bi men. I still see Iron Bull as a niche romance option, so I feel that there should be another non-human option available to us. This leaves both Varric and Solas. And honestly, I would really like there to be an option for elf inquisitors, after they announced that we would be playing as a Dalish Elf. For role-play purposes, having an elf as a romance option for Dalish inquisitors would be appreciated.
• Lastly, I really wouldn't want all of the returning characters to be romancable. That would mean that, if Varric is announced as the last male LI, then 2/3 of the LIs for straight female inquisitors would be returning characters . I would rather explore a new character's romance and story as opposed to Varric's, as I would love for him to resolve the Bianca plotline (and I still can only see him as a best friend/brother, even though he is one of my favourite characters!)
• Oh, and c'mon! When will we finally get a male LI that is geeky/nerdy and intelligent?! That is something Bioware hasn't done before in a romance that I can remember, and it is so my type that no one else even comes close in the LI line up. Shake it up Bioware !

Well, I think that is all I can think of at the moment, but these are all the things that have been going through my head while trying to work out who might be more likely to be announced as the last male LI.

[Xilizhra]

I think maybe it is a bit slanted towards Chantry supporters, but this is especially so if you're straight, since Cassandra and Cullen are among the most pro-Chantry in the group. If you're doing same-sex relationships, Dorian and Sera make it much less pronounced. 

 

For bisexual options, Iron Bull is not a Chantry supporter, but I wouldn't romance him if I were a mage/pro-mage. The Qun is like tenfold worse towards mages than the Chantry. Vivienne is a pro-circle mage, which is also not great if you're pro-mage. Josephine's actual views are a pretty big question mark, but she's a friend of Leliana's and Antivans tend towards strong Chantry support. The remaining male possibilities all seem to be pretty politically neutral. Varric and Solas neither seem to be allied with any religion to a strong extent. Blackwall hasn't given a strong impression of it, either, and the wardens tend to not favor other political groups.

 

It seems that the Chantry slant is most pronounced if you're a straight male and least pronounced if you're a gay male. I don't think we can always expect to see LIs from every political background for every demographic. That's stretching a bit hard. It has been noted in the "tropes" thread that strong Andrastrians tend to be hetero, though.

"Strong Andrastians tend to be hetero?" I don't know if I agree. Leliana was the strongest Andrastian in the party in DAO, and she was bisexual. Anders was the most religious of the four LIs in DA2, and he was, well, probably pansexual (Sebastian, I tend to not count). Even if you do count Sebastian, that's only a 3:2 ratio of hetero to bi/pan LIs.

[TheLittleBird]

So, I thought I'd see what this thread is all about. Turns out the title's not misleading at all

I'm personally of the belief Solas is a LI, for various reasons, most of which have already been stated above, but also because Varric seems to be loyal to Bianca forever and I actually think Blackwall is going to be more of an older mentor-type character. Who is also nearing his Calling.

[Chachou]

I posted this over in the Solas thread, but here's my reasoning on why I'm hoping the one of the last LI options is Solas...

(It's so hard to keep up with this thread! )

 

Yes, You are very much on point sire. 

If you could post it everywhere, that would be greatly appreciated (just don't get yourself killed by posting it in Varric and Blackwall thread  ).

 

Is your avatar modeled after Vector Hyllus ?

[Nocte ad Mortem]

• Oh, and c'mon! When will we finally get a male LI that is geeky/nerdy and intelligent?! That is something Bioware hasn't done before in a romance that I can remember, and it is so my type that no one else even comes close in the LI line up. Shake it up Bioware   !

This is the main reason I really hope he's an LI. We've never had a male personality like that and it rounds things out really well. Both straight women and gay men get a "stereotypically handsome human" (Cullen/Dorian), we both get a beefcake (Iron Bull) and, with Solas, we could both get a smaller, intellectual guy to round things out. It's so perfect. The other choices are a second serving of beefcake. 

[PurePazaak]

Yes, You are very much on point sire. 

If you could post it everywhere, that would be greatly appreciated (just don't get yourself killed by posting it in Varric and Blackwall thread  ).

 

Is your avatar modeled after Vector Hyllus ?

 

Yes, it is indeed Vector. He was my favourite romance in SWTOR

[Ajna]

Yes, You are very much on point sire.
If you could post it everywhere, that would be greatly appreciated (just don't get yourself killed by posting it in Varric and Blackwall thread ).

Is your avatar modeled after Vector Hyllus ?

Are you suggesting we Varric fans are violent?! BRING IT!!!!!!!! *cracks knuckles*

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Rumble in the romance thread. 

[Xilizhra]

Rumble in the romance thread. 

Which other strong Andrastians did you say were hetero?

[Chachou]

Yes, it is indeed Vector. He was my favourite romance in SWTOR

 

I understand your love for Solas now

[Char]

I'm starting to think the only way to solve this conundrum is in the vein of Harry Hill...

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Which other strong Andrastians did you say were hetero?

There was an extended discussion about it in the trope thread. Generally, people were quoting Alistair/Aveline/Sebastian/Cullen/Cassandra. Leliana is the one exception and Alistair is more of a skeptic than the others. I wouldn't have considered Anders to be a strong Andrastrian, personally. He quotes the types of spirits by the Chantry, but I feel like that's Justice's beliefs about spirits. He doesn't believe the magisters really went to the Golden City before you find Corypheus and he's strongly against the templars, which are part of the Chantry. He blows up a Chantry, so he can't love them too much.

 

It's also questionable, though, whether the trope is more about being Andrastrian or just about the personality type, as some have called it, "the noble do gooder". Leliana has a darker past and is the "left hand" of the Divine, so she may escape the trend by not being a noble do gooder. 

[Chachou]

Are you suggesting we Varric fans are violent?! BRING IT!!!!!!!! *cracks knuckles*

 

I wouldn't dare* !

 

 

 

*I'm way too scared

[Xilizhra]

There was an extended discussion about it in the trope thread. Generally, people were quoting Alistair/Aveline/Sebastian/Cullen/Cassandra. Leliana is the one exception and Alistair is more of a skeptic than the others. I wouldn't have considered Anders to be a strong Andrastrian, personally. He quotes the types of spirits by the Chantry, but I feel like that's Justice's beliefs about spirits. He doesn't believe the magisters really went to the Golden City before you find Corypheus and he's strongly against the templars, which are part of the Chantry. He blows up a Chantry, so he can't love them too much.

 

It's also questionable, though, whether the trope is more about being Andrastrian or just about the personality type, as some have called it, "the noble do gooder". Leliana has a darker past and is the "left hand" of the Divine, so she may escape the trend by not being a noble do gooder. 

Um, Aveline is explicitly not strongly Andrastian; actually, she's quite skeptical for the setting. And Anders invokes the Maker a lot; he has no affection for the Chantry, but he's highly religious, just idiosyncratically so. As for Alistair, he seems to just be typically Andrastian; certainly not moreso than Zevran, who describes himself as quite devout once.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Um, Aveline is explicitly not strongly Andrastian; actually, she's quite skeptical for the setting. And Anders invokes the Maker a lot; he has no affection for the Chantry, but he's highly religious, just idiosyncratically so. As for Alistair, he seems to just be typically Andrastian; certainly not moreso than Zevran, who describes himself as quite devout once.

Maybe it's more of a personality thing, then. In the trope thread Allan didn't list it as being tied to religion in the OP. He went with the personality side of things. 

[Ajna]

I wouldn't dare* !



*I'm way too scared

Haha, no you're not, you know we're all lovely really.

[javeart]

I posted this over in the Solas thread, but here's my reasoning on why I'm hoping the one of the last LI options is Solas...

(It's so hard to keep up with this thread! )

 

totally agreed!