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[Shark17676]

I'm certain the majority of the regulars that post here prefer equal options.  I have never heard any of us say they actively wanted unequal options.  It's why when these cycles of "stop hating the straights/why are you all (vague generalities) discriminating against straights" arguments/discussions pop up, I boggle at my screen.  

 

I don't get it, either.  It's like certain people are actively seeking reasons to get offended.

 

Seriously, folks -- no one ever said they wanted more options just to spite the straight male.  Stop it.

[Felya87]

I can probably fix that...

 

What if your LI ends up betraying you a la Jacob Taylor?

 

is the main motive now Jacob face almost always the tube in my ME2 runs. no matter if I didn't romance him. Is one of those thing I can't really forgive to a man (or woman).

betray someone, and having a child with this other person, without breaking before the realtionship you already have is for me a very big form of immaturity and cowardice. expecially having a child. Damn, there are many way to prevent pregancy!!! from pills to condom, to the more effective of all, as Gandhi sayd: abstinence.

And in a future like ME3, I can't think two adult, one a soldiar, the other a scientist don't know how to prevent pregnacy!!!

 

I can be less angry if something similar happen in the DA setting (less culture in general, and less 100% efficient way to prevent a pregancy, beside being both Gray Wardens, it seem.) and the betray (without pregnancy) I can be ok, but only if is the consequence of determined choices, and not arbitrary. and if arbitrary must be, I'd like the chance to continue the relationship or not. (I don't think I will forgive something like this even in a game, but I had forgiven Anders, so I can change my mind playng)

[Maria Caliban]

I have no problem with unequal options. At this point, everyone has two available LIs and that meets my requirement for fairness.

I vacillate between hoping we have bi Vivienne + 1 bi dude for the last two announced and hoping we have two bisexual dudes. Because I think having two bisexual men for the open slots would be neat, I apparently am a militant hater of cishet men.

Or something.

If Vivienne is straight, I'd give a mild objection but I'm prepared for that happening. I would not decide that BioWare must hate lesbians.

[Grieving Natashina]

Then again, I am easy like Sunday morning.

And now I have that song stuck in my head at 5:30am.  On a Saturday too.  Well done.  

[josipa24]

I have no problem with unequal options. At this point, everyone has two available LIs and that meets my requirement for fairness.

I vacillate between hoping we have bi Vivienne + 1 bi dude for the last two announced and hoping we have two bisexual dudes. Because I think having two bisexual men for the open slots would be neat, I apparently am a militant hater of cishet men.
 

 

I get that you're happy with your options so far, but I don't understand the last bit. Why would a person not interested in romancing dudes at all be hoping the remaining 2 were bi guys?

 

No interest in Vivienne so you're like 'eh, whatever'? Let the gay guys/straight ladies have the other slot too?

 

I just don't get why that's preferable to everyone having equal number of options (to a lesbian).
 

[Dermain]

I get that you're happy with your options so far, but I don't understand the last bit. Why would a person not interested in romancing dudes at all be hoping the remaining 2 were bi guys?

 

No interest in Vivienne so you're like 'eh, whatever'? Let the gay guys/straight ladies have the other slot too?

 

I just don't get why that's preferable to everyone having equal number of options (to a lesbian).
 

 

Well there is that whole LGBT(Q) thing...they're kind of interested in having equality for everyone...

 

It is also fair, but we have no idea if the romances will be fair across the board (it is hinted at though).

 

Of course, Maria could have her own reason...

[josipa24]

Well there is that whole LGBT(Q) thing...they're kind of interested in having equality for everyone...

 

It is also fair, but we have no idea if the romances will be fair across the board (it is hinted at though).

 

Of course, Maria could have her own reason...

 

Um, I'm not sure I'm understanding you correctly (I've had very little sleep), but yh equality is the ideal ofc. I'm queer too, that's why I want the two remaining option to be 1 bi guy and 1 bi lady.

 

I was just wondering why Maria, who is gay herself, would be hoping for 2 bi guys. That'd mean 5-3 split, and 4 options for gay dudes/straight ladies, and half the options for gay ladies/straight dudes.

[Sylvianus]

I don't personally care if my own gender is screwed. But I hope that everything is equal for obvious pragmatical and idealistic reasons. We could have easily 2/2/2, not sure why it would be needed to have unequal options with 8 romances. 

 

Equality in all the games is the key to make everyone at least satisfied ( because you could still think that your options suck, it's not important if it's about tastes ), and to bury definitely the resentment around the romances. 

 

I'm certainly not interested by the competition between people arguing who is the most repressed in history with each game having unequal options in the future. 

 

We don't even know the results and I've already seen lesbians, female straight gamers, male straight gamers, gay men arguing that they are / would be screwed, and this cynical situation tells me that there's only one good solution. One that is pragmatic. Give everyone the same number of options from DA:I to the games which could follow its step. That way, no issues. 

 

I don't know how I will react if some people complain in that scenario, - regardless of who they are -, but I will certainly not be blaming them, I will argue for the same number of options in the future. 

[wright1978]

I doubt I'll be screaming from the rafters if there's an unequal li split, as they seem to have dealt with known orientation split relatively fairly thus far and everyone has a degree of choice. Ideally prefer a bi female and bi male for last 2 for fairness and also just to avoid the toxic atmosphere it would likely produce amongst sections of various orientations. If it's 5/3 so be it.

[Xilizhra]

I have no problem with unequal options. At this point, everyone has two available LIs and that meets my requirement for fairness.

I vacillate between hoping we have bi Vivienne + 1 bi dude for the last two announced and hoping we have two bisexual dudes. Because I think having two bisexual men for the open slots would be neat, I apparently am a militant hater of cishet men.

Or something.

If Vivienne is straight, I'd give a mild objection but I'm prepared for that happening. I would not decide that BioWare must hate lesbians.

Hate? No. Willing to arbitrarily screw over? Yes, and there's plenty of proof for that beyond hypothetical LI ratios.

[Solas]

:: claws at face :: BioWare...

[carlo angelo]

^ He wants to be a romance option. It's a sign.

[Ispan]

^ He wants to be a romance option. It's a sign.

 

Bioware, just give the man what he wants!

[Phate Phoenix]

Bioware, just give the man what he wants!

 

Do eeeeet

[LobselVith8]

Hate? No. Willing to arbitrarily screw over? Yes, and there's plenty of proof for that beyond hypothetical LI ratios.

 

Because of Marjolaine and Branka? I doubt Briala will be depicted as a villain. I wouldn't be surprised if there was an option that lead to her resuming her romance with Celene, once the dust settled.

[wright1978]

Because of Marjolaine and Branka? I doubt Briala will be depicted as a villain. I wouldn't be surprised if there was an option that lead to her resuming her romance with Celene, once the dust settled.

Was Branka a lesbian?

[jtav]

I'd prefer a 5/3 split. Every woman on the team being a current or former romance option bothers me more than some groups getting three choices while others get two. Truthfully, I wish they'd just have done six romances and 2/2/2.

[Karlone123]

I don't know if anyone has thought about this, but Dagna strikes me as being one of the last two romances.

[LobselVith8]

Was Branka a lesbian?

 

Branka was in a relationship with Hespith, and I believe Oghren calls her a poetess.

[jtav]

I don't know if anyone has thought about this, but Dagna strikes me as being one of the last two romances.

All eight romances come from the group of twelve.

[Alan Rickman]

She's not a companion or advisor, and considering it's confirmed that the 8 romances will all be within either of those groups...

[wright1978]

Branka was in a relationship with Hespith, and I believe Oghren calls her a poetess.

But she was married to Oghren too. I'd always assumed her to be bi.

[Dirgegun]

But she was married to Oghren too. I'd always assumed her to be bi.

 

I don't think we can really tell what sexuality those two were because we don't have enough information on either. The most we know is that they had a lesbian relationship.

[Karlone123]

She's not a companion or advisor, and considering it's confirmed that the 8 romances will all be within either of those groups...

I heard at least one of the last will be neither of those groups.

[LobselVith8]

But she was married to Oghren too. I'd always assumed her to be bi.

 

She also left him behind when she took her entire House, so I was never certain if she genuinely loved Oghren at one point, or if it was simply a matter of tradition (due to how dwarven society operates).