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[TheLastSuperSaiyan87]

Um, you forgot one. 

 

Sebastian: Straight

Since romancing him is not even recognized by the game and from what I heard his romance is a joke, I don't count him especially since he is DLC

[Chron0id]

Look up "wasted potential" on google and you'll see a picture of Sebastian in the image results.  I guarantee it.

[LobselVith8]

"Reprieve" is an awfully strong word.  Is it safe to say that this goes beyond a topic that keenly interests you?

 

It's something I would like to see implemented. The cultures of the elves, the dwarves, and the qunari do interest me as a fan, and I feel that we don't get quite as much insight into them as we do with the Andrastian societies. Even a text like World of Thedas seems to lean heavily towards the human perspectives and cultures, while not quite as much into the others; even the categorization of 'Spirits' and 'Demons' in WoT is mainly from an Andrastian human perspective, while the text about how the Dalish view all spirits as dangerous and how the Qunari view the Fade as the Land of the Dead is relegated to single lines. Last time, our last protagonist was human, so the storyline was limited to a human perspective. Now we have the Inquisition, which is admittedly a human-centric organization (even in the composition of most of our companions, and the only love interests available for a straight male protagonist), and while I understand the reason behind it, I would prefer to see the other cultures given some equal footing in the future.

[HuldraDancer]

Since romancing him is not even recognized by the game and from what I heard his romance is a joke, I don't count him especially since he is DLC

His romance IS a joke and a waste of a resources. I can get behind the chaste thing that doesn't bug me but there is maybe one or two lines that remind the player that they are romancing the guy cause you are going to forget it since he doesn't act like it one bit and still kind of flirts with your sister in front of you (at least it came off as flirting to me  ) Also dude doesn't show up to offer you comfort when you mother dies. Guess the Chantry floors were extra dirty that day and he couldn't make the time.

[TheLastSuperSaiyan87]

lol I wouldn't know I only play straight romances when I'm playing a male 

[Allan Schumacher]

It's something I would like to see implemented. The cultures of the elves, the dwarves, and the qunari do interest me as a fan, and I feel that we don't get quite as much insight into them as we do with the Andrastian societies. Even a text like World of Thedas seems to lean heavily towards the human perspectives and cultures, while not quite as much into the others; even the categorization of 'Spirits' and 'Demons' in WoT is mainly from an Andrastian human perspective, while the text about how the Dalish view all spirits as dangerous and how the Qunari view the Fade as the Land of the Dead is relegated to single lines. Last time, our last protagonist was human, so the storyline was limited to a human perspective. Now we have the Inquisition, which is admittedly a human-centric organization (even in the composition of most of our companions, and the only love interests available for a straight male protagonist), and while I understand the reason behind it, I would prefer to see the other cultures given some equal footing in the future.

 

It's just that when I see the word reprieve, I get the impression that the lack of this content is causing you some sort of anguish.  Or at least, a non-trivial amount of frustration.  So I'm curious if that is actually the case.  I understand it's content you're interested in.

[HuldraDancer]

Disneyquisition still waiting for you to show up love, I've got 7 companions 1 adviser and dagna.

 

Sebastian can only be romanced by women but I really wouldn't recommend his romance at least not his friendship romance I have no idea if his rival romance is any difference.

[Hellion Rex]

Look up "wasted potential" on google and you'll see a picture of Sebastian in the image results.  I guarantee it.

That being said, I thought he was the hottest of the companions lol.

[HuldraDancer]

That being said, I thought he was the hottest of the companions lol.

I don't know about hottest but he did have some sexy eyes and that voice could melt me every single time  (That accent was just  )

[LobselVith8]

I don't think that Bioware should ever stray too far from human-centric stories. For one, the game would sell less copies, for another humans are too widespread to not have an almost centric impact on any story. We'll almost certainly get city-elven perspectives from Sera, and we'll get Qunari from Iron Bull, Solas isn't Dalish, but he almost certainly has a very different perspective on the world than any other character we've encountered, and Varric is a surfacer, but he still provided a unique Dwarven insight to the game. I have little doubt there will be important Dalish and subterranean Dwarven NPCs that we get to interact with.

 

I don't think that Dragon Age would necessarily sell less if there was some focus on the other cultures as well. Morrowind sold well, and it took place on an island comprised mainly of Dunmer. And I don't think a human-centric storyline is necessarily all the time; I think some equal ground can be given to some of the other groups who inhabit Thedas.

 

I understand that you're frustrated that this diversity isn't going to be represented in LIs that you'd be interested in, but it's just the way the cookie crumbled this time. Every game has had companions with an interesting variety of perspectives and they just can't fit that many into one game.

 

I understand there are limitations, but upon looking at the mainly human composition of the group, and the human only component for straight male protagonists, I don't think it would hurt anyone if there was more variety in the future. Generally speaking, some dwarven players are still waiting for a female dwarven love interest, Varric remains an uncertainty as a love interest for anyone, some players have expressed an interest in a female qunari for some time now (and some comments from the developers seemed to rub some people the wrong way, since a few of those comments came across as belittling some of them), and a male/female elven romance has never happened with a straight male elf. Different people have expressed their interest in seeing these things in the past, so I simply think it's something to keep in mind, even though I know that, perhaps, it can't all happen at once. Really, it's just my two cents on the matter.

[TheLastSuperSaiyan87]

Disneyquisition still waiting for you to show up love, I've got 7 companions 1 adviser and dagna.

 

Sebastian can only be romanced by women but I really wouldn't recommend his romance at least not his friendship romance I have no idea if his rival romance is any difference.

Yeah I know he is only for women that's why I said I only play straight romances as a male lol when I play as a female she's lesbian

[HuldraDancer]

Yeah I know he is only for women that's why I said I only play straight romances as a male lol when I play as a female she's lesbian

My mistake I thought totally misread what you said sorry^^;;

[Feybrad]

Look up "wasted potential" on google and you'll see a picture of Sebastian in the image results.  I guarantee it.

 

Did it. Did not find a Picture of Sebastian. You lied to me.

[HuldraDancer]

Disneyquisition I will wait for you forever I just got all the companions an adviser and Dagna I am not giving up on you darling. I will wait always for you.

 

Do we have any news on anything yet or still the same thing as before? Also is anyone else still wanting to know about the race gates more or am I the only one? Cause not knowing the race gates is driving me even more crazy that not knowing the rest of the LIs

 

It's only a matter of time Disneyquisition before you come back to me I'm ready honey we can make this work I promise we can.

[Kisari]

Disneyquisition still waiting for you to show up love, I've got 7 companions 1 adviser and dagna.

 

Sebastian can only be romanced by women but I really wouldn't recommend his romance at least not his friendship romance I have no idea if his rival romance is any difference.

His rivalmance is terrible. It's literally a single scene where he suggests you become the Viscount, and says he'd become Prince and you'd have the strongest alliance ever or whatever. And then at the actual endgame he simply says "Maybe in a different life..."

After that, the relationship isn't recognized at all and honestly seems to me like you don't even get with him in the rivalmance.

I screenied it all in my last playthrough:

Spoiler

I don't care about the lack of sex scene but... some sort of recognition of a relationship at all would have been nice. His rivalmance is the ultimate disappointment.

[HuldraDancer]

His rivalmance is terrible. It's literally a single scene where he suggests you become the Viscount, and says he'd become Prince and you'd have the strongest alliance ever or whatever. And then at the actual endgame he simply says "Maybe in a different life..."

After that, the relationship isn't recognized at all and honestly seems to me like you don't even get with him in the rivalmance.

I screenied it all in my last playthrough:

Spoiler

I don't care about the lack of sex scene but... some sort of recognition of a relationship at all would have been nice. His rivalmance is the ultimate disappointment.

 

Ancestors that romance is worthless! I don't care about the lack of sex either but there is nothing to his romance nothing and the fact that you can not flirt once (even before meeting him) to trigger the romance is stupid.  Aside from a line here or there his romance offers nothing. I really hope if Bioware tries a chaste romance again they will not handle it like how they did Sebastian's it was a disappointment and those blue eyes and accent were not worth it.

[LobselVith8]

It's just that when I see the word reprieve, I get the impression that the lack of this content is causing you some sort of anguish.  Or at least, a non-trivial amount of frustration.  So I'm curious if that is actually the case.  I understand it's content you're interested in.

 

Some frustration would be apt. We get insight into different humans, into different human cultures, and we can see the good or bad among humans because there's a significant focus on the human perspectives in the story; that's not always the case with the non-human groups, because they can get marginalized at times. The Dalish, for example, tend to get lumped together in a bad way due to some of the worst being at the forefront, because of the storyteller Sarel's hostility in Origins, the condescension from one of the guards at the Sabrae Clan when Hawke initially approaches, or the Dalish clan in "The Masked Empire" being inhabited by some of the worst people. Unless you're aware of the lore and realize how dangerous outsiders can be to the Dalish, they simply across as arrogant jerks, and it's why a few people in this community seem to think the worst about them. 

 

In only having limited exposure to them, some players get the impression that the Dalish are all alike, and that being one of the People means being condescending or hostile like Sarel. We don't get the same insight into their culture that we do with the humans. Our exposure is limited, and we only get some minor Dalish insight into their perspective about the fall of the Dales, except from a codex entry and the words from an elven Warden towards a member of the Chantry, or even their view on magic and spirits, which is pieced together through Merrill's religious debates with Anders, and the line from WoT. Weekes' even admitted that a Dalish perspective wasn't provided in "The Masked Empire" to avoid reader confusion, which is also why they use Andrastian terms; they're also not given the same depth and nuance as Celene, Gaspard, Michel, or some of the minor human characters.

 

The human focus is also why some posters have expressed concern about whether the different racial backgrounds will have dialogue that's true to their background and culture, or if it's going to be homogenized to be no different than if one was playing as a human. My opinion is that some more story focus on these groups might change that. There's still a lot to explore with the dwarven, qunari, and elven cultures. Just my opinion, of course.

[Char]

Ancestors that romance is worthless! I don't care about the lack of sex either but there is nothing to his romance nothing and the fact that you can not flirt once (even before meeting him) to trigger the romance is stupid.  Aside from a line here or there his romance offers nothing. I really hope if Bioware tries a chaste romance again they will not handle it like how they did Sebastian's it was a disappointment and those blue eyes and accent were not worth it.

I look at Sebastian with a strong wish that Hawke had met him in his wild playboy days. Less constant Chantry talk, more fun times, and a possibility of a relationship that at least hit the holding hands stage at some point over the decade :/

[HuldraDancer]

I look at Sebastian with a strong wish that Hawke had met him in his wild playboy days. Less constant Chantry talk, more fun times, and a possibility of a relationship that at least hit the holding hands stage at some point over the decade :/

 

With how Sebastian is? We'd have to go through his marriage first with a head nod instead of a kiss before we're even allowed to hold hands but you get to do it frequently during the honey moon. Before that maybe he'll smile at you and call you pretty maybe.

[Char]

With how Sebastian is? We'd have to go through his marriage first with a head nod instead of a kiss before we're even allowed to hold hands but you get to do it frequently during the honey moon. Before that maybe he'll smile at you and call you pretty maybe.

Sounds about right!
It felt like such a tease, all that talk about how he used to be a true playboy prince all about good times and disrepute and absolutely no way for Hawke to convince him that it sounded a lot more fun than chastity and Andraste's shiny crotch-plate

[Kisari]

Ancestors that romance is worthless! I don't care about the lack of sex either but there is nothing to his romance nothing and the fact that you can not flirt once (even before meeting him) to trigger the romance is stupid.  Aside from a line here or there his romance offers nothing. I really hope if Bioware tries a chaste romance again they will not handle it like how they did Sebastian's it was a disappointment and those blue eyes and accent were not worth it.

I was very excited for Seb before release and ended up really liking him. The fact that his friendmance gets a nod to marrying in the DLC and not the rivalmance makes me pretty sad. I read that last line as basically "Yeah not gonna happen, too bad about our circumstances." I am totally fine respecting his want to be chaste, and his religion and everything. I am glad there wasn't a way to coerce him out of it cause that is incredibly skeevy. I just wish something happened.
And with the mentioning of writing a book with him and Bethany... That's what I get for liking a DLC character I guess.

[HuldraDancer]

I was very excited for Seb before release and ended up really liking him. The fact that his friendmance gets a nod to marrying in the DLC and not the rivalmance makes me pretty sad. I read that last line as basically "Yeah not gonna happen, too bad about our circumstances." I am totally fine respecting his want to be chaste, and his religion and everything. I am glad there wasn't a way to coerce him out of it cause that is incredibly skeevy. I just wish something happened.
And with the mentioning of writing a book with him and Bethany... That's what I get for liking a DLC character I guess.

I liked the idea of a chaste romance to be honest but chaste doesn't mean there is nothing period the guy hardly acknowledges you are him are together. For me his romance just felt very distant like he was humoring Hawke instead of actually wanting to be in a relationship with her and I really didn't like that. I really would have been happy if it was acknowledged a little bit more and had him going to comfort you after Hawke's mother died, heck I would have been fine if he never kissed you and the most we got was a hand holding scene. Again just felt like he was distant and was only there to humor Hawke's delusions of a romance with him.

[javeart]

I think it's good having different kind of romances for different tastes, and of course I fully support an asexual romance. That said, a chaste romance totally kills it for me. I mean I don't need a sex scene, I don't even need sex being mentioned one way or another (though I'd greatly prefer it if it was), but the fact that they're even suggesting that it's not happening, and what's worse, that it's not going to happen ever... Totally off putting. I mean, it's not that I haven't picked Sebastian's romance ever, is that I'm not even curious, and coming from me that's really unusual. His personality doesn't exactly help, either.

 

I'm totally on the other side of the spectrum when it comes to sex and romances, most of the time I feel the sex gets too late. I liked it that in DAO some romances were not like that, and it made sense for some characters. I find it kind of weird in DA2 that apparently we've been flirting almost every time we've met and still we've waited 3 years   to have sex, even with someone kind of promiscuos like Isabella... 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Yeah, I like Sebastian but for the first "no sex until marriage" LI to be completely chaste and not even acknowledge it really was very aggravating. 

[HuldraDancer]

There was no Sebastian romance there never was he was just humoring Hawke and didn't know how to turn her down.

 

 

http://www.deviantar...g-Sim-284953186

 

^^^^

That does a better Sebastian romance in my opinion (plus a very funny bloodmage one)