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[David Gaider]

Speaking of DAI again, if gay men are getting twice as much options as lesbians in this game, then it would be a sign for me that it follows the same route as movies and TV shows when it comes to treatment of lesbians. And it would leave me with very low expectations about Sera's romance.

 

I'm not sure why you would assume that's the case.

 

Either way, I'm not suggesting you should be happy if you don't get the same number of options as someone else-- "be glad for what you get and shut up already" sort of thing. It'd be nice if we received the benefit of the doubt, or at least waited until they knew whether there was actual cause for alarm, but either way I've stated what our priorities are. Ultimately, we've set out first to write stories that we were interested in writing, and to give players of all genders and preferences some choices and content specifically with them in mind. There's no way to please everyone, but I guess we'll see how it plays out.

[LiaraShepard]

Honestly, Dorian alone is worth five gay romance options. I'm a straight-as-an-arrow male but if I were gay, I'd be all over Dorian. That moustache!  And those robes!  He's swag personified!  

 

I think we can say the same about the other characters that are romanceable. Just because Bioware creates great characters doesn't mean we shouldn't have the right to have the same amount of great characters to choose from than other demographics.

[daveliam]

I think most of us are forgetting that Bioware doesn't make dating sims, they make rpg's.

No one is forgetting this, as no one has asked for a dating sim. This argument means nothing in this conversation.

[Ninjasplaycardgames2]

You either had that already or are extremely quick in photoshop. Either way... wow...

[fiveforchaos]

I am attracted to men, yes. In some scenarios, gay men would be the ones shorted an option with Varric as a straight option. (I don't believe that will happen for reasons I mentioned earlier, the IB gates, but I could be wrong.)

 

But I don't want the options "in my favor". I'm not happy that I could potentially get 4 options and lesbians 2. As part of the LGBT community, I feel just as obligated to speak up for them when they're obviously getting the short end, and I hope they would for me. Although, I don't see a lot of anyone looking out for anyone but themselves here, I'll be honest.

 

And to add on to this, no, I'm not happy straight men could be shorted by half, either. I believe in actual fairness, not just what benefits me at the moment.

Cheers, I can understand that POV, your earlier post sounded like you were more concerned about your options, which is why I asked. But wanting everyone to have an equal number of romances even if another situation might benefit you is definitely a position I can sympathize with and respect.  

[Maria Caliban]

I think we can say the same about the other characters that are romanceable. Just because Bioware creates great characters doesn't mean we shouldn't have the right to have the same amount of great characters to choose from than other demographics.

We don't have that right.

[Sylvianus]

I didn't say they couldn't talk about it, but that doesn't mean I can't discuss that some not worst case scenarios can happen too, does it?

 

I'm actually thinking it's a good thing if they expect the worst, that way, they will just feel empty instead of angry if it happens. ( for those who really care about romance and equality ) At least I hope. 

[Rinji the Bearded]

Blackwall only has one.

 

Q_Q

[Chron0id]

I think most of us are forgetting that Bioware doesn't make dating sims, they make rpg's.

Not yet....

 

Bahahaaha!

[Ynqve]

I don't get it, why waste time and energy on being upset over things we DO NOT KNOW. Save it for when they reveal the last two LI's. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Nice. Off topic too, Maybe Josie will be getting more pics too, she only has 1 pic

She does! *rushes over to page* Oh, you meant the small one over her name.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

actually a lot of people only have one pic (and by a lot of ppl I mean I only checked Cass and IB and they have 1 pic)

Also doesnt Jossie have 2?

No, she has 0 in the image gallery part of her page actually. 

[Moirin]

I'm actually thinking it's a good thing if they expect the worst, that way, they will just feel empty instead of angry if it happens. ( for those who really care about romance and equality ) At least I hope. 

 

Expect the worst but hope for the best.

[godModeAlpha]

I wonder when people will start to speculate that you have to be straight to close the Breach....

 

Hahaha ... who knows, anything is possible in this forum.

[Lillian]

You were just waiting for someone to say something like that, weren't you?

[Bluenoodle]

I think most of us are forgetting that Bioware doesn't make dating sims, they make rpg's.

THIS.

Wow. TBH I'm hoping they get this over and done with because you guys are being so hostile over something very minute. 

[Grieving Natashina]

Honestly, Dorian alone is worth five gay romance options. I'm a straight-as-an-arrow male but if I were gay, I'd be all over Dorian. That moustache!  And those robes!  He's swag personified!  

I'm a pansexual woman, but I've never been interested in a m/m relationship.  Not that I had anything against it, it wasn't just a roleplaying avenue that I was interested in.  Then Dorian came along and changed my mind in a hurry.  He's fantastic.  I'm not rolling up a guy just to romance him though.  I mean, that's a big part of it, but Dorian made me interested in roleplaying a gay man.  That's very cool.  

 

I'm decided I'm not going to sweat the remain LIs very much anymore.  The stress isn't worth it.  As a lady that prefers men overall, I do have Iron Bull and Cullen.  The former I'd need to go know, and the other isn't my physical type, but I'm not going to crap on the options I have just because they aren't perfect for me.  I have two options, which is great!  Even if my chosen character (Varric) isn't a LI, I get his friendship back, and I still have two options to choose from.

 

Same goes with the ladies.  I'll admit, Sera so far isn't my type (reminds too much of a kid sister,) and Josie, while beautiful, I'd have to get a sense of how much adviser dialogue there is.  So, again, I have two choices that aren't completely to my taste.  

 

Holy crap, I have two choices at least!  Again, just because they aren't 100% to my taste doesn't make them bad or lesser.  It just means that I might have to play the game before I could decide, since I believe in getting to know my companions before I start going, "it's a 'nomance'" three months before the game launches.

 

Instead of worrying about who might get one more LI, or who's going to be race-gated, I'm going to hang out and enjoy the company of my fellow forumites in various fan threads.  It sure as hell beats bickering, debating and getting pissed off about something we have no control over.   That's just my advice anyhow.  Just try not to be jerks to each other.  

 

 

 

 

By the way, thanks Mr. Gaider, for stopping by and posting.  Hopefully you're feeling better and starting to get back up on your feet.  

 

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[Ninjasplaycardgames2]

Spoiler

At least she has more flattering pics than Blackwall or Iron Bull who only gets a back shot in his gallery.

[Chron0id]

I still think Cole should have been a romance option.  Would have been akin to Thane's doomed romance methinks. 

 

Can love bloom between a woman and a....a spirit? 

[godModeAlpha]

actually a lot of people only have one pic (and by a lot of ppl I mean I only checked Cass and IB and they have 1 pic)

Also doesnt Jossie have 2?

 

just 1 official pic, http://www.dragonage...umans/josephine

 

EDIT: make that 2 then, we want MOAR

[Ailith Tycane]

I just want them to release the last two LI's so that the forums can explode with some short term activity and discussion and then die down until October 7th, since that seems to be the pattern when LI's are revealed. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Spoiler

At least she has more flattering pics than Blackwall or Iron Bull who only gets a back shot in his gallery.

Oh I agree that all characters need more and better images. I was just saying that Josephine has 0 in the gallery part of her page, the least of any of the 13 there. 

[Sylvianus]

Expect the worst but hope for the best.

 

Nope, they shouldn't hope for anything. They should only tell to themself that what they believed about Bioware and fairness wasn't at all what they thought. It's annoying but it's what will make them stronger for the future. They will be ready for unequal options. 

 

If everything is equal in the end for DA:I, then good for them. But they should never forget at the same time. 

[Moirin]

Then Dorian came along and changed my mind in a hurry.  He's fantastic.  I'm not rolling up a guy just to romance him though.  I mean, that's a big part of it, but Dorian made me interested in roleplaying a gay man.  That's very cool.   

 

I agree. Except I actually am planning on playing my first m/m game in Inquisition because I want to see the Dorian romance. I had to change the plans I had for Sera too, but I don't mind.

[Deviija]

 

No one is forgetting this, as no one has asked for a dating sim. This argument means nothing in this conversation.

 

Romance-related discussion of Inquisition with romance as a tertiary game feature in its own romance-related thread?  How outlandish.  

 

 

I just want them to release the last two LI's so that the forums can explode with some short term activity and discussion and then die down until October 7th, since that seems to be the pattern when LI's are revealed. 

 

Yes, I rather it be released a fair bit prior to the game's release so the forums can burst and then find an equilibrium by the time the game is out.