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[Nocte ad Mortem]

Solas might be available to women still. 

[Chrys]

It's a role playing game. If the only acceptable way to play is a character who's exactly like we are, I'm definitely doing it wrong. For many people part of the point is to play as perspectives different than ours.

[Felya87]

Solas might be available to women still. 

 

let's hope so.  it would break tradition not have a bisexual male elf. (and with Solas, we would have all the classes, now that I think of it...Zevran rogue, Fenris warrior, ans Solas mage.)

[Nocte ad Mortem]

let's hope so.  it would break tradition not have a bisexual male elf. (and with Solas, we would have all the classes, now that I think of it...Zevran rogue, Fenris warrior, ans Solas mage.)

I want Solas to be bisexual, I just meant he'd also be available to women. I hope the last two options will be a bisexual male/female to even out options for everyone.

[javeart]

I don't accept cheating either but I also think that there should be romances which don't have a happy ending or don't end up being to usual story where girl/guy meets a girl/boy and then they'll live happilly ever after. Although I like those kind of stories the most and my tolerance towards unhappy romances are not good but if every romance would be a happy romance then I would feel that something is missing because the LI would always fell in love with my PC and I don't want that cheating etc stories are not told because the character is LI.

 

 

I'd like to say that I accept cheating, because I'm far from thinking that's one of the worst things someone can do to you, even whith the lying part. Depending on the circumstances (and the concept of cheating usually covers a lot of things that to me can be very different), I'd like to say I could understand it and forgive it. But the truth it's I'm sure I could not   well, I could surely understand it, and I may even forgive it, but I doubt I could forget it, so...

 

Anyway, I agree that one doesn't have to accept it to think it'd be a valid option for a story. We have a lot of morally questionabe options already in the games, Personally I don't think this one would be worse than  many others. It doesn't surprise me though that most people would reject it, and that's why I think it should be an option among many or not being included at all.

 

I'd totally would pick it, in any case, at least once. There're really beatiful love stories build around infidelities, even if one probably wouldn't want to experience one in real life.

 

Also, they could put all the drama in this one and go lighter with the rest, which would also be nice 

[daveliam]

You're not disturbed by the fact that many straight people will go after the LGB content because they like the idea of two people of the same sex (usually opposite to theirs) getting it on? I've heard that many people consider it to be rather offensive. 

 

The only time I ever find this type of thing offensive is when it becomes a demand.  For example, if there were a bunch of straight guys demanding that Sera has sexy scenes with ladies because "it's hot".  You don't see much of that in these games though.  In real life, I've had several gals with "good intentions" demand that I kiss my husband because they find it "hot" (granted this is pretty much only happening when alcohol is involved).  There's a fine between appreciating something and being patronizing. 

 

If straight people enjoy the s/s content because they find it hot, it means pretty little to me.  Go for it.  Enjoy what you see.  It's when it starts creeping into real life that it can be offensive.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I honestly believe you're lucky if cheating is the worst thing anyone has ever done to you, but I don't really see the point in adding it to DA romances. I don't see a reason to make the romances needlessly unpleasant with things like cheating plots, or coercion plots, or abusive relationships, or any other real world situations like that. They do enough with story reasons for relationships to become unpleasant, like LIs dying of fantasy diseases, or becoming possessed by questionably sane spirits, or the variety of other plot specific courses that romances have taken. I don't think we really need these other areas of tension.  

[Hellion Rex]

I've always wondered whether gay people view straight romances in the manner certain homophobes do. 

 

*Gay person sees a man and a woman kissing*

*begins vomiting profusely*

Lol, if that were true, I could never watch TV, movies, any kind of media, or even walk outside without barfing all over creation.

[Felya87]

I want Solas to be bisexual, I just meant he'd also be available to women. I hope the last two options will be a bisexual male/female to even out options for everyone.

that's my hope too. and the motive I (sadly) don't see Varric as LI. not with already Cullen as the straight LI. (it would sound a little strange having him bisexual, or at least he would fall a little too much on his freference for women.)

having the two remaining LI bisexual (one male, one female) would mean equality in all the fronts.

[Calicico]

You're not disturbed by the fact that many straight people will go after the LGB content because they like the idea of two people of the same sex (usually opposite to theirs) getting it on? I've heard that many people consider it to be rather offensive. 

 

Not necessarily directed at me so hope you don't mind me adding my 2 cents. I find it disturbing when straight people fetishize LGB people and often problematic (bi female here in long term rs with another woman). But I think the majority of straight people that played the s/s romances did it because they wanted to explore those relationships, and/or the romances in question involved characters they liked. Or they simply enjoyed the interaction between their PC and the same sex LI so they went for it. I have a straight friend that found Liara "adorable as hell", so on her first ME play through she romanced her.

 

Going by the number of players who do the LGBT content, we could say that it is made for straight people.

 

I think it is more correct to say that with DA, the content was made specifically with LGBT people in mind, but a fair share of straight people have been shown to enjoy it as well.

[LobselVith8]

To be a bit more on topic though, I am deeply saddened there are no elf romances for us straighties.  Ah well.

 

It's unfortunate that there isn't a female elven romance option for a male Inquisitor; it wasn't possible in Origins, either. Given the number of companions and advisers, I'm surprised there wasn't more variety with the composition of Inquisition; it's a bit Andrastian human-centric.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

that's my hope too. and the motive I (sadly) don't see Varric as LI. not with already Cullen as the straight LI. (it would sound a little strange having him bisexual, or at least he would fall a little too much on his freference for women.)

having the two remaining LI bisexual (one male, one female) would mean equality in all the fronts.

Totally agreed with you there. 

[javeart]

I honestly believe you're lucky if cheating is the worst thing anyone has ever done to you, but I don't really see the point in adding it to DA romances. I don't see a reason to make the romances needlessly unpleasant with things like cheating plots, or coercion plots, or abusive relationships, or any other real world situations like that. They do enough with story reasons for relationships to become unpleasant, like LIs dying of fantasy diseases, or becoming possessed by questionably sane spirits, or the variety of other plot specific courses that romances have taken. I don't think we really need these other areas of tension.  

 

I can understand that. Though to me the abusive plot discussed here earlier and the idea of a romance that starts as cheating, are worlds apart. Though I guess I can see how for other people could be just as bad (but I disagree)

[Not a Cat Doll]

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I've always wondered whether gay people view straight romances in the manner certain homophobes do. 

 

*Gay person sees a man and a woman kissing*

*begins vomiting profusely*

 

 

I have to say, the way romantic love is depicted between men and women makes me want to vomit profusely, more often than not, and I'm straight.

[Hellion Rex]

It's unfortunate that there isn't a female elven romance option for a male Inquisitor; it wasn't possible in Origins, either. Given the number of companions and advisers, I'm surprised there wasn't more variety with the composition of Inquisition; it's a bit Andrastian human-centric.

Meh, we only have two "Andrastians" - Cass and Cullen. Sera definitely isn't, Dorian's an Imperial Chantry guy, Bull sure as hell isn't Andrastian, and we have no clue about Josephine. Granted, the list is definitely human centric, but not Andrastian.

[MCG]

I hope that because this game has now been delayed they don't mess around even longer revealing these romances.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I can understand that. Though to me the abusive plot discussed here earlier and the idea of a romance that starts as cheating, are worlds apart. Though I guess I can see how for other people could be just as bad (but I disagree)

I definitely didn't mean it was as bad. I just meant that I don't really see a need for either plot. I don't think the majority of people would enjoy it and it doesn't seem like something that would aid the main plot significantly. It just seems like something that would discolor the relationship for most people without any real benefit.  

[carlo angelo]

I've always wondered whether gay people view straight romances in the manner certain homophobes do.

*Gay person sees a man and a woman kissing*
*begins vomiting profusely*

To be a bit more on topic though, I am deeply saddened there are no elf romances for us straighties. Ah well.

No. Not really. But there have been times that I do roll my eyes in resentment since a same sex couple can't express the same level of affection without it creating controversy.

[LobselVith8]

Meh, we only have two "Andrastians" - Cass and Cullen. Sera definitely isn't, Dorian's an Imperial Chantry guy, Bull sure as hell isn't Andrastian, and we have no clue about Josephine. Granted, the list is definitely human centric, but not Andrastian.

 

Tevinter follows the Imperial Chantry, and unless Sera is Dalish, she's likely from an Andrasian society. As for Josephine, she's from Antiva, an Andrastian nation.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

You guys forgot Leliana. She's definitely Andrastrian. 

[javeart]

I definitely didn't mean it was as bad. I just meant that I don't really see a need for either plot. I don't think the majority of people would enjoy it and it doesn't seem like something that would aid the main plot significantly. It just seems like something that would discolor the relationship for most people without any real benefit.  

 

I see what you mean and I partially agree, I know most people wouldn't find it enjoyable, so putting the option there could be a waste. But, the way I think about it is that they're probably going to throw lots of drama at us anyway, so might as well be something different this time   I'm not asking for it, but I'd not mind  it

[LobselVith8]

You guys forgot Leliana. She's definitely Andrastrian. 

 

True, Leliana is culturally and religiously Andrastian.

[Felya87]

uhm...maybe I'm wrong, but I think maybe the only human culture non Andrastian are the Chasind, since at least have their own religion and don't believe in the Maker. Maybe the Rivaini?

[Hellion Rex]

You guys forgot Leliana. She's definitely Andrastrian. 

I was specifically talking about the love interests. And still, we don't know crap about Sera. She doesn't have to believe in anything, much less Andraste.

[karushna5]

I find "cheating" socially acceptable in 3 situations.

1) You had no choice about your current relationship. (a royal bride wed to someone for alliances, a forced marriage, a obsessive significant other who you fear leaving, someone who is prevented from getting a divorce)

2) You have not seen them for a very very long time. ( I am talking years here due to strange circumstances.)

3) marriage and dating is also a social contract. It is understood that when one party grossly betrays that contract the other person can as well. ie: The person you married is a jealous and abusive person who is cruel to you? Than you are under no obligations to uphold exclusivity as one of the terms of that contract. They broke the rules, and now they are no longer beholden to them.

 

and of course 4 which seems extra
If it is agreed to in some way as part of the relationship, of course. I don't mean polyamory, but that the marriage was a farce, an open relationship, an exception, or any other accepted ideas both people knew getting into it.