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[TheodoricFriede]

I had to google Dagna. Shame on me for not remembering her first. She was sooo cute.

Its a testament to how many great characters were in DA:O when you forget about someone as great as Dagna.

 

Oh man, i hope she really is back(and a romance). She was so great.

[CuriousArtemis]

I probably will not start a playthrough without knowing who the Love Interests are, and who they are available to, personally.

 

Yeah, same. So far I've always gone into a BW game knowing what my options are, and it's been a rewarding experience.

[AresKeith]

Agree completely, don't find building a character from the ground up and experiencing miserable loneliness as rewarding.

 

My characters who never did a romance but had strong friendships with the characters sure didn't feel miserable and lonely 

[TheodoricFriede]

Without a romance your characters are miserable lonely?
To be clear, I'm not judging you or anything. I just found I really like the friendship between my characters and NPCs in Bioware games; I don't see mine as lonely if they don't have a love interest, so your mindset seems strange in my perspective.

Well, real world example?

 

I always felt a bit "alone" even when i was around my friends. It wasn't until I met my (wonderful) girlfriend that i ever started to feel like i wasn't alone anymore.

 

That feeling could be transferred to in game.

[In Exile]

I don't really understand the reasoning behind keeping the orientations secret.
The only thing I can think of is that keeping things under wraps if they are not set in stone. But with only a few months away and some of romance stuff are revealed, how much still hasn't been decided?

It might be because a bunch of cinematics are in a state of flux.

[Felya87]

Agree completely, don't find building a character from the ground up and experiencing miserable loneliness as rewarding.

me too. I don't have too many hours of spare time, and I'd prefer make my runs as full and rewarding as I can. loosing content like romance feel like a lost oppurtunity. I want to experience the most from every run.

[The Elder King]

Well, real world example?
 
I always felt a bit "alone" even when i was around my friends. It wasn't until I met my (wonderful) girlfriend that i ever started to feel like i wasn't alone anymore.
 
That feeling could be transferred to in game.

Well, I understand feeling alone in this cases. It's the 'miserable' that made me wonder.

[XMissWooX]

I wasn't around for DAO or DA2 's marketing, so I knew nothing about any of the companions, let alone the LIs, and I have to say it was quite pleasant stumbling upon a character I liked and naturally starting a romance with them.
That said, I wouldn't mind knowing in advance, so I can get excited for the romances I can do and not get disappointed for the romances I can't do.
Not to mention, finally *move on* from thinking about the bloody romances and focus on the other aspects of the game!

I won't be getting the game until the 10th though, so I'm sure by then someone will have posted the available LIs and who they can be romanced by, if I really wished to know.

[Phoe77]

I don't quite remember DAO, but it didn't take long with DA2 to figure out who was romanceable.  Most (all?) of them had a flirt dialogue in the first conversation after their recruitment if I remember correctly.  I guess that there were some teases in there too, but there you go.

 

I don't really care if they do or don't release the info.  I'd kind of like to put things to rest, but I don't mind being surprised either.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I only feasibly have enough time for maybe 2 full playthroughs, so I'm not going to bother starting a game until I know which LIs are available to which genders and races. I wouldn't enjoy the game nearly as much if I started a playthrough and realized I was locked out of romances halfway through. I'm probably not going to bother pre-ordering if I don't know the choices, because it just seems like a waste to have it first day if I'm still going to be waiting a few days to figure out what sort of character to make. I might as well just pick it up when I figure it out. 

[wright1978]

Without a romance your characters are miserable lonely?
To be clear, I'm not judging you or anything. I just found I really like the friendship between my characters and NPCs in Bioware games; I don't see mine as lonely if they don't have a love interest, so your mindset seems strange in my perspective.

Yes I would say my characters felt a sense of misery and loneliness despite friendships and I as the player felt the sense of the incomplete story missing a vital ingredient from the recipe.

[Gwydden]

Well, I understand feeling alone in this cases. It's the 'miserable' that made me wonder.

Hyperbole is a legitimate argumentative strategy.

I've played "solo"/no romance, but I'd say they were miserable characters.

 

Not just for no romance though. Their jobs also sucked, and they were forced into it.. And their past was full of trauma. Especially the Warden.

My dwarf commoner didn't romance anyone. At all. None of the options seems like a good fit, and he was too focused on his job, his family, and his friends to bother with pointless dalliances. He certainly wasn't the romantic or lusty type.

 

Now it is looking more and more likely my first Inquisitor won't have any specific romance attached to him. But instead of doing what I described above, I think I will try something new and go for a romantic and promiscuous character. It does fit what the characterization I've been planning, and I think it might prove fun to do it for a change 

[The Elder King]

I've played "solo"/no romance, but I'd say they were miserable characters.
 
Not just for no romance though. Their jobs also sucked, and they were forced into it.. And their past was full of trauma. Especially the Warden.

Well, that's another thing. I can roleplay miserable characters. I played the whole ME trilogy (not my canon though), with a Colonist/SS Shep that lost every loved ones, friends and LI.
I'm not questioning that making nomance playthroughs can end in the PC being miserable , but that it has to be like this.

[The Elder King]

Yes I would say my characters felt a sense of misery and loneliness despite friendships and I as the player felt the sense of the incomplete story missing a vital ingredient from the recipe.

 
Understood. Thanks for the reply . 

Hyperbole is a legitimate argumentative strategy.

Indeed, but I was curious to know if it wasn't hyperbole.

[schall_und_rauch]

It seems like most players here on the forums want to know in advance, though. Or wouldn't care if they did know in advance.

Despite my avatar, I'm split about it. On one hand, I'd like to know as much as possible about the game. On the other, I will probably regret being spoiled when I play it, not experiencing the surprise.

Right now, I am just a bit annoyed that everybody here is doom and despair, even though not much is known. But that will go away.

[Gwydden]

Out of all the Wardens, I think the Commoner would easily find peace in his/her new role. It seems like a step up (as CE is too). I wouldn't play mine as miserable in that case either.

 

edit: My fem Dwarf Noble is depressed though. She's betrayed by family and gets dumped by Gorim

Yes, it's hard to feel miserable when you've just been saved from a life of being gutter trash and given a job where you can actually make a difference. I really liked that playthrough. I felt like Spartacus fighting in the Provings. And my character got to have legitimate personal reasons to support Bhelen. I think Leske was the only genuinely sad part of it.

It just depends on the whole character concept for me. And the options given to them.

 

My Dalish Warden wouldn't care to be friends with any of the DAO group "that much". They were never going to be some refuge for my Warden's loneliness. They're no different than Sten. Out of place. A bit soulless feeling. She likes Morrigan and Dog. Zev and Leli are frivilous. Alistair is a gigantic putz.

I'm curious. Any character in particular you think will be a good fit for your Inquisitor? How would you approach the situation if there wasn't any?

[Lebanese Dude]

Right now, I am just a bit annoyed that everybody here is doom and despair, even though not much is known. But that will go away.

 

It will go away when any info on Dorian senpai is released.

[The Elder King]

It will go away when any info on Dorian senpai is released.

Doubt it, expecially in the case he's announced as either gay or straight. It'll be Sera all over again.

[Kreidian]

I think given people's love of certain characters it's understandable that some people would go on at length at how much they wish that [Cool Sexy Character] would be an a viable romance option for [My Preferred Race/Gender/Orientation Combo]. And to be honest I think that's fair. I certainly would have LOVED to see the likes of Tali, Jack, and even Cortez as LIs for my FemShep, for example.

 

But that's a far cry from yelling about being marginalized simply because you don't get to have all the cookies on the romance platter. (i.e. "How Dare they not make Traynor fall in love with my Manly Shepard!") That just goes back to the certain sense of entitlement Allan was talking about.

 

In truth I much prefer the direction Bioware is going now where they make a larger variety of Romance options which won't all be available to the main character. Especially if that means that each romance can have its full due on cinematics and writing. 

 

I honestly can't stand the concept of "playersexual" characters. It certainly felt like it took a lot away from the character when they fall in love with you simply because you're the PC. It was easily the most annoying part of DA2 romances because it made them all seem far less genuine as a result. ( With the possible exception of Isabella because ... well it's Isabella. )

 

By contrast the Romances in ME3 were generally pretty awesome, and they added far more to the characters as a result. As awesome as it would have been to see it differently, the fact that Jack of all people refused to sleep with my FemShep actually made her much more interesting. I absolutely loved Traynor and Cortez in ME3 regardless of whether they were into my current Shepard's gender or not. 

 

I love options and I love variety, but adding options just for the sake of options isn't necessary in the long run. The great characters are a large part of why we play these games, and the better, more interesting the character gets the better the experience for it. It's a lot more interesting when these characters say and do things because of who they are, not because of what the player wants. For example, as much as people were annoying by this, I thought it was awesome that Anders would come onto you so deliberately, and then so offended if you refused him. 

 

And I want to see more of that, more of these awesome characters being their awesome selves, and not simply what the players want them to be. I think the challenge of dealing with someone like this makes romances far more interesting.

 

 

Also, Cassandra is sexy as hell. (I love her voice)

[Lebanese Dude]

Doubt, expecially in the case he's announced as either gay or straight. It'll be Sera all over again.

 

True...

[Gwydden]

I wanted to play another Dalish. A male this time.. I've been dying to play a Dalish mage. I just don't see who they're going to connect to now. Looks like they'll be loners like my Warden was.

There's always hope in NPC romances, if you want your character to experience love