I loved Zevran, too.
Yet, you hate his beefier kōhai?
I loved Zevran, too.
Yet, you hate his beefier kōhai?
......You're saying the elves in elder scroll that were hit by the ugly stick as a race is better then da elves?
Tbf, if the elves in Elder Scrolls were hit by the ugly stick, then the elves in DA2 fell from the top of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.
They looked like some mad scientists had gene spliced humans with chameleons!
Tbf, if the elves in Elder Scrolls were hit by the ugly stick, then the elves in DA2 fell from the top of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.
They looked like some mad scientists had gene spliced humans with chameleons!
With the exception of Fenris and Merrill. I think someone forgot to make sure the generic elves had chins and jawlines.
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I thought the high elves and wood elves looked great in Skyrim. Hardly any wood elf females in the game though. edit: None romanceable either. Most were just bandits for some reason.
Skyrim's dark elves were awesome. (But only if they had facial hair. Which they can have. Which automatically makes them superior to male DA elves in my book).
The brow ridges, red eyes, and awesome beards really made them look badass.
They just looks scarier and ugly. And you would romance one?
Besides...Redguards are better.
Tbf, if the elves in Elder Scrolls were hit by the ugly stick, then the elves in DA2 fell from the top of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.
They looked like some mad scientists had gene spliced humans with chameleons!
*Look at Merrill. And the dalish.
That's ugly?
I thought the whole reasoning behind the DA2 system was that it was the easiest, most economical way to give everyone options.
It gives people options. But it does nothing to make people that want to romance a particular character any happier when they learn they can't. There were fights when Varric was confirmed to not be a romance in DA2.
The only way to be "fair" is if everyone is romanceable (and you could still make a compelling that if no one likes any of the companions that much, it's still not fair), or if no one is romanceable.
Yet, you hate his beefier kōhai?
I don't hate Iron Bull. I just don't have any interest in romancing him. There's literally nothing physically attractive about him, to me. Out of all the male companions, I find him to be easily the least physically attractive. That doesn't mean my character couldn't still be friends with him or that I can't still like him a lot as a character.
Although, I'll be honest, I am not at all fond of the Qunari and if I wasn't too attached to having all the possible companions, I probably would tell an active one to split if they told me reports and information about my organization would be going back to them with one of their guys on the inside.
Although, I'll be honest, I am not at all fond of the Qunari and if I wasn't too attached to having all the possible companions, I probably would tell an active one to split if they told me reports and information about my organization would be going back to them with one of their guys on the inside.
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I like the Da2 elves when attention was given (Merrill, Fenris, Merethari). The average NPC was just weird looking. Like whatever character creator they had for those was extremely limited.
edit: Oh wait, there's that dark elf in MotA. The waitress. She looked great.
*Look at Merrill. And the dalish.
That's ugly?
*Tightens flame jacket
Yes.
Only the GUILTY have something to hide.
I imagine they and I would have different perspectives on "guilt", since I would definitely work against them in whatever way I could.
I liked the changes they made to the elven faces in Dragon Age II and wish they'd kept them in DA:I.
Yeah, the DA:I elves look really human-y. What's the point of having a fantasy race if all you're going to do is give them pointy ears and slightly smaller builds? At least DA2 elves looked unique/distinctive.
I didn't think the elves were all that ugly, but they were heavily stylized and not appealing to me overall.
Fenris is/was awesome, but it was more of his personality (when he wasn't whining about mages,) and his voice that attracted me to him.
*Tightens flame jacket
Yes.
ha ha kidding
Although, I'll be honest, I am not at all fond of the Qunari and if I wasn't too attached to having all the possible companions, I probably would tell an active one to split if they told me reports and information about my organization would be going back to them with one of their guys on the inside.
It really is too bad that Bull is an active member of the Qun. Ben-Hassrath....he's probably best buds with Tallis and everything. Urgh.
Makes me want to reconsider romancing him if he is even available. Hopefully the Inquisitor can convince him to renounce the Qun and prove that he is loyal to the Inquisition- perhaps in an epic point of no return scene where we could possibly battle to the death if he chooses the Qun over the Inquisition..... Oh the possibilities..
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Yeah, the DA:I look really human-y. What's the point of having a fantasy race if all you're going to do is give them pointy ears and slightly smaller builds? At least DA2 elves looked unique/distinctive.
I'm used to it. I've been a bigger fan of D&D than anything BW specific. Elves are the same there. These new elves would fit perfectly there.
I doubt as many people would be disappointed with that. I think this new solution just creates more disappointments. Not the equal amount of disappointments. And not less.
Fundamentally it's about people being upset that a character they wanted to romance is not available for their character to romance. If the issue is because people can get jealous or frustrated because that character can be romanced by a different type of character, we move into places that I'm not 100% sure if that's as valid of an impetus for us to do something about it compared to things like representation.
But I'm also speaking as someone that is indifferent towards romances in games that I play. If they are there yay, if not, it's still good. So perhaps there's a perspective that I'm not understanding?
It may also be the idea of what choice means in a video game. Since I am not a believer in "choice lets me drive the narrative in ways that I would want to to drive it in" but rather "choice affords me meaningful, ideally difficult, context appropriate alternatives for situations." So for someone that goes "I think it'd be a great story if I could romance X with this character" there's frustration. But when I game, it's a non-issue. Is there something that I am missing?
My only problem with the DA2 elves was that it seemed like they were at times inconsistent. I understand different members of the same species look different, but some of the differences in the DA2 elves were extreme. That was especially so with Tallis, but a lot of the more featured elves looked very human, while some NPCs looked like they went way too far in the other direction. When they hit a good balance, though, I thought the DA2 look was good.
but a lot of the more featured elves looked very human, while some NPCs looked like they went way too far in the other direction.
That's not necessarily a bad thing though, no? If we're talking about appearance wise.
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Fundamentally it's about people being upset that a character they wanted to romance is not available for their character to romance. If the issue is because people can get jealous or frustrated because that character can be romanced by a different type of character, we move into places that I'm not 100% sure if that's as valid of an impetus for us to do something about it compared to things like representation.
But I'm also speaking as someone that is indifferent towards romances in games that I play. If they are there yay, if not, it's still good. So perhaps there's a perspective that I'm not understanding?
It may also be the idea of what choice means in a video game. Since I am not a believer in "choice lets me drive the narrative in ways that I would want to to drive it in" but rather "choice affords me meaningful, ideally difficult, context appropriate alternatives for situations." So for someone that goes "I think it'd be a great story if I could romance X with this character" there's frustration. But when I game, it's a non-issue. Is there something that I am missing?
I can't speak for everyone. The only thing I think you're missing is that it's insulting what anyone thinks is going to appeal to a certain orientation. "Oh you guys are in this category. Then you'll surely just like these two."
It doesn't work like that. People are attracted to specifics. To individuals. Not to orientation.
The Orientation thing is still a good idea though, don't get me wrong. Just not with a small pool of characters. imo. I think it's an idea better served with a bigger group.
And what's wrong with that?
Nothing. It's just that's too old for the whole virgin thing to me XD
It might also be that I never romanced Fenris, so Zevran was the only elf I romanced and that was ages ago. So, elves still seem pretty fresh, to me. lol
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My only problem with the DA2 elves was that it seemed like they were at times inconsistent. I understand different meThmbers of the same species look different, but some of the differences in the DA2 elves were extreme. That was especially so with Tallis, but a lot of the more featured elves looked very human, while some NPCs looked like they went way too far in the other direction. When they hit a good balance, though, I thought the DA2 look was good.
Most of the Dalish were okay but when I think of the ugly ones... I think of the random NPCs... like whatsherface's dad that is all "THAT NOBLEMAN'S SON STOLE MY CHILD AND DEM SHEMS DON'T CAREANDYOURENOTLISTENINGBECAUSEYOUREDISTRACTEDBYMYJOWLS!"
I can't speak for everyone. The only thing I think you're missing is that it's insulting what anyone thinks is going to appeal to a certain orientation. "Oh you guys are in this category. Then you'll surely just like these two."
It doesn't work like that. People are attracted to specifics. To individuals. Not to orientation.
The Orientation thing is still a good idea though, don't get me wrong. Just not with a small pool of characters. imo
I was going to say something like this.
For example, don't always have a male elf as a m/m option.
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The only one out of the 3 that was over 30 was Liara. Tali and Merrill are in their 20's.
I'm talking about the DAI females...
Hahahahaha!
Poor Solas. I truly do feel sorry for the guy, but srsly.
And anyway look at his thread, 99% of the people who want to romance him are women.
With Dorian, it is much more of an even split among his most vocal fans.
Nope. Plenty of Dorian fans want him bi that wouldn't stop the devs from making him m/m only so why should it stop them from having Solas be bi. ![]()
Good lord Skyrim elves. *shudders*
I did not start rthat game til I installed the motherload of face,hair and body mods. Nope. Nope nope nope.