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[Hanako Ikezawa]

Poor Orana, always being picked on. Y'all should be ashamed of yourselves. 

[sandalisthemaker]

How do you guys think a relationship with Iron Bull would be handled if he remains in the Qun, considering their views on it?    

 

I hope that I can intelligently and reasonably disagree with the Qun, unlike in MotA (although I didn't really mind being a belligerent jerk when it came to hating on the Qun anyway).  Hopefully there can be a bit of a rivalmance type thing going on, but ultimately, I really want things to end with one of us caving to the other.

 

Although if one of us caves, it would ideally be Bull, because it certainly won't be my Inquisitor.

Even If things end up tragic or even bloody at the end, then so be it.  

[Maria Caliban]

How do you guys think a relationship with Iron Bull would be handled if he remains in the Qun, considering their views on it?

I expect he'll do exactly what he wants to do, and randomly feel guilty about it.

[spirosz]

I hope that I can intelligently and reasonably disagree with the Qun, unlike in MotA (although I didn't really mind being a belligerent jerk when it came to hating on the Qun anyway).  Hopefully there can be a bit of a rivalmance type thing going on, but ultimately, I really want things to end with one of us caving to the other.

 

Although if one of us caves, it would ideally be Bull, because it certainly won't be my Inquisitor.

Even If things end up tragic or even bloody at the end, then so be it.  

 

You think we'll be able to convince him of the ways of the Twerk?

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I hope that I can intelligently and reasonably disagree with the Qun, unlike in MotA (although I didn't really mind being a belligerent jerk when it came to hating on the Qun anyway).  Hopefully there can be a bit of a rivalmance type thing going on, but ultimately, I really want things to end with one of us caving to the other. If things end up tragic or even bloody at the end, then so be it.  

Well, what I also wonder is how his bosses back home will react. It seems like a relationship might force his hand, or at least it may be implied it would come to that down the road. The Qunari re-educated those that establish relationships, or that's the information I've heard. Wouldn't they want to do that with him, if he were to remain in the Qun?   

[Grieving Natashina]

Well, what I also wonder is how his bosses back home will react. It seems like a relationship might force his hand, or at least it may be implied it would come to that down the road. The Qunari re-educated those that establish relationships, or that's the information I've heard. Wouldn't they want to do that with him, if he were to remain in the Qun?   

I have a feeling that, regardless of Bull's status as a romance option, all (or at least most) of that is going to come up during his character quests.  You bring up some good points.

 

I expect he'll do exactly what he wants to do, and randomly feel guilty about it.

I also expect to see a lot of this too.  

[Kimberly]

How do they re-educate someone in the Qun? Does anyone know?

[HuldraDancer]

I don't mind! I generally don't mind Qun. I love Sten and while Tallis was a bit preachy ( I feel like because she's Elf in Qun she was pushed to substitute for it by being a total tool) , I didn't mind her.

I adored Sten in DAO (even if I did have to spam him with Feast Day gifts to get him to like me) Talis was okay but it just felt she she was being too preachy and pushing the Qun down my throat (though I did get a kick out of her telling my mage Hawke that they would be more happy living in the Qun) So long as Iron Bull doesn't do that trying to convert stuff we're going to be A-Okay.

 

I will not abide a spy for the Big Bad of the next game giving away the strengths and weaknesses of the only organization- which I am building from the ground up- that can save the world.  

 

Bull needs to prove that his heart lies with the Inquisition. He can't serve two masters. He'll get the boot if he chooses the Qun.  

 

Assuming we even get a moral event horizon scene with him.

Maybe its just cause I'm the kind of person that always wants all the companions even if I don't care for them too much but I find it odd to turn away help that is right there that you're going to need to fight the big bad in the current game. To put it in other terms I'd deal with the problem at hand and deal with future ones later and if Iron Bull can pull his weight I'll take him along can't be choosy about your allies when the Fade is pouring out like a hard summers rain. At least that my reasoning but to each their own.

 

How do you guys think a relationship with Iron Bull would be handled if he remains in the Qun, considering their views on it?    

Well his views of the Qun (going by his info) seem pretty shaky right now so I imagine that we may get a chance to help push him towards going back to the Qun or cutting ties with it though its hard to say at this point I guess but it seems like a lot of posters would like to make him cut ties to the Qun, as for myself I'm not sure I probably would but only because I'm a greedy greedy person and want my companions around all the time.

[GVulture]

I'd just rather pick on the artist involved. They were either drunk and doing it for the lolz. Or it was someone's kid.

This is why we never hit random!!

[Phate Phoenix]

How do you guys think a relationship with Iron Bull would be handled if he remains in the Qun, considering their views on it?    

 

I must admit, if the Iron Bull becomes chaste after reaffirming his belief in the Qun, I'm gonna be a bit put-out. Like, can we get a chaste romance that's not intrinsically tied to religion? Please? That said, I'll probably roll an asexual character for that, because I am desperate for acknowledged chaste romances. Desperate.

[Maria Caliban]

You think we'll be able to convince him of the ways of the Twerk?

I want an Iron Bull twerking gif so bad.

[Grieving Natashina]

How do they re-educate someone in the Qun? Does anyone know?

From the wiki:

 

Refusal to cooperate is seen as illness to be cured, and those who resist are taken to the viddathlok, temples dedicated to healing. What happens later is not quite clear, but it is known that the Qunari use a substance called qamek to turn them into mindless laborers forced into indentured servitude or sent to mines or construction camps. Some would return, changed in profound ways, some would perish of exhaustion or starvation and some would be slain.

 

 

From the comics, Isabela was on the verge of this fate after her stunt in Kirkwall.

[sandalisthemaker]

Well, what I also wonder is how his bosses back home will react. It seems like a relationship might force his hand, or at least it may be implied it would come to that down the road. The Qunari re-educated those that establish relationships, or that's the information I've heard. Wouldn't they want to do that with him, if he were to remain in the Qun?   

 

I doubt that they would go into such scenarios, but back when I thought he would be a Tal-Vashoth mercenary, I entertained the idea that Bull might be hunted down by one of the very Ben-Hassrath agents that he unfortunately turned out to be. It would have been a cool companion arch helping him kill off those that would have wanted to re-educate him.

 

But now, I don't think something like this would be possible because they would have to make branching story-lines depending on if the player seeks to put a stop to him giving away the Inquisition's secrets to the enemy, or actively encourages his role as spymaster for the Qun. 

[sandalisthemaker]

How do they re-educate someone in the Qun? Does anyone know?

 

They use Qamek in various doses. In high doses it turns people into mindless slaves.

[sandalisthemaker]

I want an Iron Bull twerking gif so bad.

 

Of all the companions, Bull would make the best twerker. 

[Allan Schumacher]

It's more insulting that you've made a human heavy group, tbh. The orientation thing just complicated it. I'm pretty sure no matter what happens, as a straight guy (even with bisexual options), I'll be left with only human characters. And none even a down to earth type of character to boot. This is going to be a serious game, it looks like. I didn't want to play that way. At least not as the years go by. I was hoping to mix it up a bit. I promise you'll get one or two playthroughs out of me though.

 

Well it's unfortunate that you find it insulting, though I can understand feeling disappointed.  In any case, hopefully upon playing some of your concerns are assuaged.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I must admit, if the Iron Bull becomes chaste after reaffirming his belief in the Qun, I'm gonna be a bit put-out. Like, can we get a chaste romance that's not intrinsically tied to religion? Please? That said, I'll probably roll an asexual character for that, because I am desperate for acknowledged chaste romances. Desperate.

Well, "chaste" isn't the problem. The Qunari aren't against casual sex as much as they're against romance. It's basically the opposite situation as Sebastian.

[Phate Phoenix]

Well, "chaste" isn't the problem. The Qunari aren't against casual sex as much as they're against romance. It's basically the opposite situation as Sebastian.

 

I thought it was the opposite. That they viewed sex as something strictly for procreation, and there was a complete separation of sex and love in the culture.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I thought it was the opposite. That they viewed sex as something strictly for procreation, and there was a complete separation of sex and love in the culture.

Well, from the way I saw it explained on the old forum in a dev post was that sex is fine, as long as it's not tied to love. Love is fine, as long as it's platonic. So, you can't have casual sex as a Qunari. You can have platonic friends that you love. You just can't have a "romantic relationship" type bond with anyone, as we know it. 

 

I'm pretty sure I wont be able to find that post again, though. This is all the wiki says;

 

Qunari do not marry or choose romantic partners. A Qunari's most important relationship is that with his or her colleagues. They do not generally associate mating with love. They are capable of feeling and forming emotional bonds with one another, but do not express it sexually, as those who do are re-educated by the Ben-Hassrath.

The Tamassrans keep detailed genealogical records and choose who will mate with whom. They do not allow cross-breeding between races. Familial bonds are not present in Qunari society. Children are raised by the Tamassrans, evaluated, and assigned a job.

[Phate Phoenix]

Well, from the way I saw it explained on the old forum in a dev post was that sex is fine, as long as it's not tied to love. Love is fine, as long as it's platonic. So, you can't have casual sex as a Qunari. You can have platonic friends that you love. You just can't have a "romantic relationship" type bond with anyone, as we know it. 

 

I'm pretty sure I wont be able to find that post again, though. This is all the wiki says;

 

Qunari do not marry or choose romantic partners. A Qunari's most important relationship is that with his or her colleagues. They do not generally associate mating with love. They are capable of feeling and forming emotional bonds with one another, but do not express it sexually, as those who do are re-educated by the Ben-Hassrath.

The Tamassrans keep detailed genealogical records and choose who will mate with whom. They do not allow cross-breeding between races. Familial bonds are not present in Qunari society. Children are raised by the Tamassrans, evaluated, and assigned a job.

 

Oh dear.  See, I read that as it's fine to love someone, as long as you don't have sex with them. Having sex was the big no-no, because that could result in a pregnancy that wasn't scheduled or approved by the Tamassrans. [TAPS CHIN] Maybe we can ask the Iron Bull!