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[themikefest]

Maybe their goal was to distract shep from Tuchanka, so he wouldn't stop the doomsday bomb they stole from the turians...

I would like to know who told them about the bomb. Maybe the same one that told them about the female Krogan on Sur'kesh?

[Hello!I'mTheDoctor]

I would like to know who told them about the bomb. Maybe the same one that told them about the female Krogan on Sur'kesh?

 

Hell, I'd like to know how controlling an orbital cannon is useful against a Krogan resistance that doesn't have any ships.

[SporkFu]

I would like to know who told them about the bomb. Maybe the same one that told them about the female Krogan on Sur'kesh?

Well, it'd have to be someone pretty high-ranking, I'd think. How many knew about the bomb to begin with?

 

Of course, it's equally likely it's some pencil-pusher digging through classified files. 

[themikefest]

Well, it'd have to be someone pretty high-ranking, I'd think. How many knew about the bomb to begin with?

 

Of course, it's equally likely it's some pencil-pusher digging through classified files. 

If the Turians were the only ones that knew about it, why would they tell Cerberus about it? Maybe Cerberus has that top secret hush-hush communication tracker that heard the message from Victus senior to Victus junior about retriving the bomb.

[SporkFu]

If the Turians were the only ones that knew about it, why would they tell Cerberus about it? Maybe Cerberus has that top secret hush-hush communication tracker that heard the message from Victus senior to Victus junior about retriving the bomb.

Possibly... but if Cerberus hadn't dug up the bomb, Victus senior very likely would have left it buried on Tuchanka... at least until after the war harvest. Then, when everyone is feeling all the happy-happy-joy-joy cosmic togetherness, he issues a big public apology, the krogan and turians work together to dismantle the bomb and all is forgiven.

[ImaginaryMatter]

If the Turians were the only ones that knew about it, why would they tell Cerberus about it? Maybe Cerberus has that top secret hush-hush communication tracker that heard the message from Victus senior to Victus junior about retriving the bomb.

 

I just figured ME3 Cerberus had the power of omniscience or something like that.

[Hello!I'mTheDoctor]

Possibly... but if Cerberus hadn't dug up the bomb, Victus senior very likely would have left it buried on Tuchanka... at least until after the war harvest. Then, when everyone is feeling all the happy-happy-joy-joy cosmic togetherness, he issues a big public apology, the krogan and turians work together to dismantle the bomb and all is forgiven.

 

I'd blow it up and make it look like the Reapers did it.

[AlanC9]

Hell, I'd like to know how controlling an orbital cannon is useful against a Krogan resistance that doesn't have any ships.

Blowing up transports that are coming to pick up more krogan, maybe?

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

If I remember correctly, the loyalty check between Tali and Legion is designed to be much easier for paragons, while the loyalty check between Miranda and Jack is designed to be much easier for renegades (Most of my playthroughs have leaned paragon, so I always had a tough time making the Miranda/Jack check). I guess you could say this turned out to be another case of paragon bias, since with Miranda and Jack being reduced to bit players in ME3, the Tali/Legion check is exponentially more important for ME3, but I doubt this was foreseen at the time ME2 was made.

 

But I even got the renegade check on Morinth earlier, and Nadia was far more renegade after doing Legion's than doing Samara's.

 

Nadia is the type who would tell them "whoever stands in her way gets ground under her heel." There's no making nice here. Paragon only? That was pure BS. I've had renegade only in this before with a more even para-ren split.

 

Nadia doesn't agree with the paragon choice here. Tali's father was doing experiments on robots and trying to find a way to take back their homeworld. There was nothing wrong with that.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

If the Turians were the only ones that knew about it, why would they tell Cerberus about it? Maybe Cerberus has that top secret hush-hush communication tracker that heard the message from Victus senior to Victus junior about retriving the bomb.

 

No, you guys don't get it. You see, when Cerberus told Shepard about the location of the Shadow Broker base, they already had someone on the inside. How else did they get the info on its location? The Broker couldn't be awake 24/7, so he slept right? The Cerberus operative slipped in and put listening devices and install a hack on the Broker's computer that transmitted all the data to TIM. TIM had his own information network at the time and could become the Shadow Broker. So he sent Shepard to tell Liara to take down the real Shadow Broker. After that you had two information networks. The remnants of the real SB network controlled by Liara, and the majority of the network now controlled by TIM. There you go. So that's how TIM knew about the bomb. The broker network.

[ImaginaryMatter]

No, you guys don't get it. You see, when Cerberus told Shepard about the location of the Shadow Broker base, they already had someone on the inside. How else did they get the info on its location? The Broker couldn't be awake 24/7, so he slept right? The Cerberus operative slipped in and put listening devices and install a hack on the Broker's computer that transmitted all the data to TIM. TIM had his own information network at the time and could become the Shadow Broker. So he sent Shepard to tell Liara to take down the real Shadow Broker. After that you had two information networks. The remnants of the real SB network controlled by Liara, and the majority of the network now controlled by TIM. There you go. So that's how TIM knew about the bomb. The broker network.

 

I assumed Cerberus found the base when one of the hundreds of people who worked there went on vacation, got drunk, and happened to blab the whole thing.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

I assumed Cerberus found the base when one of the hundreds of people who worked there went on vacation, got drunk, and happened to blab the whole thing.

 

That was how the Cerberus operative got wind of it. See it was Maya Brooks who had a few drinks with that one person.

[ZipZap2000]

Not sure but I think the argument resolutions have something to do with the conversations you have with characters I couldn't get jack and Miranda to play nice until i'd explored all their conversation options even with near max paragon. A bit like getting Saren and TIM to off themselves I think, don't take my word for it though I've never come across anyone who knows 100% how it works with the disputes especially Jack/Miranda.

[SporkFu]

That was how the Cerberus operative got wind of it. See it was Maya Brooks who had a few drinks with that one person.

That's why she hated Wrex showing up at the skycar lot. She's anti-krogan.

[ZipZap2000]

If you look at the screen in front of the orbital cannon control you can see the Krogan do in fact have ships, the canon is being used to 'Punch a hole' so a Cerberus cruiser can get through and hit the krogan resistance. Cerberus cruiser is in red, Krogan ships are in white. Also when attending the summit it clearly says Krogan Salarian and Turian ships are positioned out of firing range of each other.

[birefringent]

The only really absurd thing is the horrible video quality in the future.

 

Today we have HD, BlueRay, people are talking about doing 4k/8k vids, and other crazy stuff.

 

Then at some point in the next ~150 years something went fubar, and all we have in the future is some grainy pixelated garbage.

[Dale]

The only really absurd thing is the horrible video quality in the future.

 

Today we have HD, BlueRay, people are talking about doing 4k/8k vids, and other crazy stuff.

 

Then at some point in the next ~150 years something went fubar, and all we have in the future is some grainy pixelated garbage.

Yep -- and have you noticed that the KEYBOARD on the Geth ships (& everywhere else) have the same layout as ours?   Isn't it interesting that whenever something has to be unlocked, decoded, activated, deactivated -- that Shep steps up to a keyboard (that he never saw before) & knows EXACTLY which key combinations to hit (knowing nothing about the software).    But then I'm contradicting myself.   In antoher thread I mentioned that we can't nit-pick this to death -- like finding organic medkids on a Geth ship and money & ammo just laying around.

 

Interesting you brought up 4k/8k.   Yes, to keep with the neighbors, they are talking about 16k & 32k which consumes 2GB (bytes) per second.   At Best Buy, I talked to the guy showing off his 4k system.  I said "seems odd that every 4k demo shows slo-mo NATURE video.   Really?   When people buy one of these, they are likely going to watch slam, bang, explosions, fighting & such -- do they REALLY want to see the hairs & pores on the nose?   I'd rather see a black-and-white scratchy movie with a great story than watch cartoons in UHD".

[AlanC9]

Not sure but I think the argument resolutions have something to do with the conversations you have with characters I couldn't get jack and Miranda to play nice until i'd explored all their conversation options even with near max paragon. A bit like getting Saren and TIM to off themselves I think, don't take my word for it though I've never come across anyone who knows 100% how it works with the disputes especially Jack/Miranda.

We could test this with Gibbed's save game editor, I suppose.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

I will not let fear compromise who I am. - when Shepard blows up the Collector base.

[ZipZap2000]

I'm guessing Gibbed is a PC thing? But I know I could never resolve the issue with Jack/Miranda until I'd explored the dialogue with Miranda, which I never usually did. I know you can't get TIM to off himself unless you use all the paragon renegade options in every convo with him and if you don't use paragon/renegade options talking to Saren you need max paragon/renegade to get him to do the same.

[ImaginaryMatter]

I'm guessing Gibbed is a PC thing? But I know I could never resolve the issue with Jack/Miranda until I'd explored the dialogue with Miranda, which I never usually did. I know you can't get TIM to off himself unless you use all the paragon renegade options in every convo with him and if you don't use paragon/renegade options talking to Saren you need max paragon/renegade to get him to do the same.

 

Gibbed can edit the save data for a game. Mark how many points you have of something, unlock armor, set how far you are in the story, etc. The program is only available on the PC; however, console players can save their data into something like a USB, plug it into the computer, convert it to be readable by the PC; then have the saved game data changed, reconverted, and plugged back into the console to be loaded to play. It's pretty useful if you want to see different scenarios but don't want to go through all the trouble of a new playthrough just to see some new scenes.

[ZipZap2000]

I figured as much I haven't been a PC gamer since it was the only way to play MP so I don't know much about it outside of PC players hacking games/controllers and creating extra scenes. Sounds useful though if something was really bugging you out.

[SporkFu]

Gibbed in ME2 is good if you don't feel like scanning planets, or you don't have enough credits. Of course there is tons more stuff you can do with gibbed, but that's pretty much all I use it for... oh, and to change shep's class or appearance. 

[von uber]

I figured as much I haven't been a PC gamer since it was the only way to play MP so I don't know much about it outside of PC players hacking games/controllers and creating extra scenes. Sounds useful though if something was really bugging you out.

 

What?

[fhs33721]

The only really absurd thing is the horrible video quality in the future.

 

Today we have HD, BlueRay, people are talking about doing 4k/8k vids, and other crazy stuff.

 

Then at some point in the next ~150 years something went fubar, and all we have in the future is some grainy pixelated garbage.

Probably because sending a movie a few thousand light years to another planet over the extranet  in Full blu ray -HD definition would take forever?

I mean it takes my internet forever to buffer a youtube video with crappy quality and their server is on the same planet.