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[Call Me Jord]

But anyway, found a lovely translated copy of the Swallow's Tower online. Thankfully I don't have to download it, so while I wait to find a game in Destiny, or taking a break while eating/drinking, I have something to read!

[Giubba]

More like because they knew fetch quests were gonna be in it.
 
Only those that lived in a fantasty world are annoyed by the mention of fetch quests.

 
Crap i know but than what was the problem with inquisition ?

The difference is in how you present those fetch quest.
The Side-Quests in The Witcher3 seems to have a lot of Story telling in it, and also a bunch of decisions, which alter the outcome of the Quest.
Instead of:
No-Name NPC1: "Get me 20 Flowers!"
*Player gets 20 Flowers*
No-NameNPC1: "kkthxbye"

From the german GameStar:
"It's a new Milestone for the art of interactive Storytelling.
Finally, there are no qualitative differences between the main story and the sidequests."
http://www.gamestar....5818,fazit.html

Just like the side quest in inquisition, if you think that every single quest put in W3 come close to "a lot of storytelling" considering the unanimous huge world than you are delusional

[Call Me Jord]

What i have to add until i play the game?

 

I've read some review everyone confirm the presence of fetch quest but instead of the usual hysteric reaction that plagued inquisition forums all i see are rainbows and unicorns...just as i was expecting because?

 

Because it's witcher 3.

 

-Snipped the rest to try and keep these posts short and sweet!-

 

There was hate for fetch quests in Inquisition? Forgive me, I wasn't aware of them. I rarely venture outside of threads dedicated to the characters (Official Threads for Josephine, Cassandra, Cullen etc) so I rarely see any other topics of the game being discussed.

 

Unfortunately I did run into my share of the threads that are basically "These are the romances for Males? -Disgusted comment goes here-" themed threads. Thankfully I chose to stay within reach of character threads, and rightly so.

 

Apologies to the Mod if my post was indeed heated to a User's response. That was not my intention at all.

 

But as well, I like to think the only person who should be justified a hate for fetch quests, Is Geralt himself. I mean even in the books, when he had his own task to complete, he was being swept up from all sides that had the intention of giving him their own problems before he could carry on lol.

 

Also if anyone could find me/make me a profile pic of Geralt in Witcher 3, I'd appreciate it. Or one of Triss!

[Dutchess]

 

In case it doesn't go there right away, it happens at 6:55.

 

Hm, they give lots of bugs as one of the biggest downsides. That's really a shame.

[Milan92]

 
Crap i know but than what was the problem with inquisition ?


Just like the side quest in inquisition, if you think that every single quest put in W3 come close to "a lot of storytelling" considering the unanimous huge world than you are delusional

 

The fact that the fetch quests had no dept whatsoever.

 

It mostly consisted of "Go there and get me 20 of those things."

 

And I'm not defending Witcher quests right now. If they consist of "Collect 20 feathers for this woman" then you'll hear me complain about that too.

[Call Me Jord]

Hm, they give lots of bugs as one of the biggest downsides. That's really a shame.

 

I believe there's a day one patch resolving these bugs, as well as performance issues.

 

Which does make me feel bad for Reviewer's, as they don't get this patch alongside the version they play.

[Giubba]

There was hate for fetch quests in Inquisition? Forgive me, I wasn't aware of them. I rarely venture outside of threads dedicated to the characters (Official Threads for Josephine, Cassandra, Cullen etc) so I rarely see any other topics of the game being discussed.

 
Yep but as you point out it wasn't confined to that aspect.
 

Unfortunately I did run into my share of the threads that are basically "These are the romances for Males? -Disgusted comment goes here-" themed threads. Thankfully I chose to stay within reach of character threads, and rightly so.
 
Apologies to the Mod if my post was indeed heated to a User's response. That was not my intention at all.
 
But as well, I like to think the only person who should be justified a hate for fetch quests, Is Geralt himself. I mean even in the books, when he had his own task to complete, he was being swept up from all sides that had the intention of giving him their own problems before he could carry on lol.
 
Also if anyone could find me/make me a profile pic of Geralt in Witcher 3, I'd appreciate it. Or one of Triss!

Regarding the book.

 

Am i the only one who think that in the last 2/3 books Saprowksi dropped completly the ball?

Last 2 book i've read Gerard passed the entire books brooding like a teenager emo and the most intriguing character or plot aren't related to the supposed main character,heck Ciri plot in the penultimate book is 10 time better than Geralt's

[Eternal Phoenix]

Fetch quests are always welcome in every game. It gives me something to do while on my way to the main quest location, heck, it helps make getting to the main quest itself that much more rewarding.

LOL?

Give me side quests with story-lines not mindless fetch quests. That's what most other RPG's do to fill out the game more and give you a little something extra.

The problem with Inquisition isn't that fetch quests exist in it but that there are too many. From what I'm hearing, The Witcher 3 has them (which we knew it would from the beginning) but also a host of side quests that actually have story-lines just like the side quests from the first two games so it won't be as much as a problem as it was in Inquisition which was filled (unfortunately) with fetch quests.

But the empty world syndrome I'm hearing is disappointing and something I feared. It seems to be another open world game sharing the same problem of Skyrim. If you can't make the world interesting then scale it down, have it non-linear like a Souls game so you can fill in every nook and cranny with interesting stuff. However an empty/boring open world in The Witcher 3 won't be so much as big of a problem as it was in Skyrim since it seems to have an interesting story and side content to go with it.

 

Still this trend with making every RPG open world is annoying. I love open world games when they're done right, don't make an RPG open world for the sake of it being open world when there's little to do in it except kill a few crappy low-tier enemies that are sparsely scattered about and collect ingredients.

[Giubba]

The fact that the fetch quests had no dept whatsoever.

 

It mostly consisted of "Go there and get me 20 of those things."

 

And I'm not defending Witcher quests right now. If they consist of "Collect 20 feathers for this woman" then you'll hear me complain about that too.

 

On this we can agree

[Giubba]

Well, everything I was reading sounded great, but then suddenly...

 

IGN:

"This new open-world map obviously has ramifications for the structure of the story, and though there are flashes of greatness, the main story is ultimately the least fulfilling part of The Witcher 3. You might call it another case of The Elder Scrolls Syndrome. Our tale begins as a multi-continent search for Geralt’s long-lost lover Yennifer, and Ciri, his surrogate daughter. My single biggest issue though, is that it never becomes much more: the overly long main story is essentially just Geralt running errands for people in exchange for information on Ciri’s whereabouts. It effectively maintains focus and momentum, but it feels more like a wild goose chase than an intriguing mystery to unravel, like the one we got in Assassins of Kings."

 

 

For those interested the author answer question here

 

http://www.ign.com/a...ment-2020648507

[SolNebula]

Holy moly

 

TW3 got a 10/10 on Gamespot.

 

http://www.gamespot....w/1900-6416135/

[cotheer]

Not Jeralt...Geralt.

 

Pure gold

[TheChris92]

It doesn't have to be linear for it to be tight -- It can still be sprawly without being open world or linear. Anyway, the issues regarding the open world aspect is essentially what I thought about when the decision to make Metal Gear open world was brought forth. I didn't see a point in it any more than I did for the addition of vehicles. Busy work or generally out of place material to a franchise that want to be a stealth game. An open world shouldn't feel like busy work. Sprawlyness should give a sense of familiarity, like the Asylum in Arkham 1, Silent Hill in SH1, 2 & 3, the maps in Hitman Blood Money etc.

But we'll see how Witcher turns out.

[Hellion Rex]

They beter have some Spice and Wolf references when it comes to economics!

Did someone say Economics?

[TheJediSaint]

Did someone say Economics?

A jiggly boob gif?  The Gay Agenda's losing its edge.

[Call Me Jord]

LOL?

 

I apologize, I thought I had given my explanation for the "It makes the Main Quest that much more rewarding"

 

Spoiler tagged to keep post short!

 

Spoiler

Take the Hinterlands from Inquisition as an example. The main quest in that area is to go to the Crossroads to meet with the Mother. What I like to do, is to do everything AROUND that Main Quest before I go to the Crossroads (That I can do, those I can't/outside of the level range required to tackle that, I leave and come back to when I can).

 

That way, when I get most of the stuff in that area done, I can sit back, and relax as I progress through the Main Quest in that area. 

 

That is what I meant by what I said. By doing everything around/leading up to the Main Quest in that area, it makes it more enjoyable because I can progress through it, rather then be like "Now that that has been triggered, lets go back to doing all the side stuff before actually progressing through the main story."

 

Although I will point out, when someone says something like what I said, do not respond with "LOL?". That just hollows out my view of you as a potential person to have a good conversation with. which then I would ignore entirely. Instead, respond with "I'm sorry, I don't understand, what do you mean by "-Insert what that person said in the quote you quoted-"

 

If you notice the difference between the two, the first one is one I'd expect of a...younger mind shall we say, while the second makes me feel like "I can have a conversation with this person". Just a simple bit of friendly advice about reacting to what people say  

[SolNebula]

A jiggly boob gif?  The Gay Agenda's losing its edge.

 

Witchers are immune to sjw and gay agendas....they drank a potion.

[Call Me Jord]

Did someone say Economics?

 

The way his head is angled, it somewhat makes him look like he's looking at the door instead lol

[Fiery Phoenix]

Apparently the 9th game in GameSpot's history to receive a perfect 10.

[HoonDing]

Well, everything I was reading sounded great, but then suddenly...

 

IGN:

"This new open-world map obviously has ramifications for the structure of the story, and though there are flashes of greatness, the main story is ultimately the least fulfilling part of The Witcher 3. You might call it another case of The Elder Scrolls Syndrome. Our tale begins as a multi-continent search for Geralt’s long-lost lover Yennifer, and Ciri, his surrogate daughter. My single biggest issue though, is that it never becomes much more: the overly long main story is essentially just Geralt running errands for people in exchange for information on Ciri’s whereabouts. It effectively maintains focus and momentum, but it feels more like a wild goose chase than an intriguing mystery to unravel, like the one we got in Assassins of Kings."

 

[Luxorek]

 

Hnnnngggg.

[Heimdall]

Well, everything I was reading sounded great, but then suddenly...

 

IGN:

"This new open-world map obviously has ramifications for the structure of the story, and though there are flashes of greatness, the main story is ultimately the least fulfilling part of The Witcher 3. You might call it another case of The Elder Scrolls Syndrome. Our tale begins as a multi-continent search for Geralt’s long-lost lover Yennifer, and Ciri, his surrogate daughter. My single biggest issue though, is that it never becomes much more: the overly long main story is essentially just Geralt running errands for people in exchange for information on Ciri’s whereabouts. It effectively maintains focus and momentum, but it feels more like a wild goose chase than an intriguing mystery to unravel, like the one we got in Assassins of Kings."

 

ugh, not encouraging.

 

"Thanks to lots of excellent dialogue and voice acting there is some emotional payoff along the way, but it’s mixed in with too much padding in the form of meaningless fetch quests and collectathons. Every time I felt like I was on the verge of an interesting revelation, I’d have to suddenly stop to escort a goat, or search for a lost, narcoleptic dwarf. Heck, even Geralt can barely hide his frustration with the constant parade of menial tasks at times."

[wicked cool]

Seems like fetch tasks are tied to main quest only? Happened in skyrim where on order to get information from npc you had to do a favor for them. Done to slow the pc down and help level them up for finale

[Zekka]

Wait a minute, so the main storyline is weak in the Witcher 3 , there are framerate issues, it has the empty open world feel to it, fetch quests and it still got a 9.3/10?

[Giubba]

Seems like fetch tasks are tied to main quest only? Happened in skyrim where on order to get information from npc you had to do a favor for them. Done to slow the pc down and help level them up for finale

 

More likely you need to do x quest or gain y amount of xp before advancing with the main plot.