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The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt Discussion - take 2


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I never rely on a game forcing me to fight in a satisfying way. When I approached W2 for the first time, I was like "oh whatever, I'll suffer through the combat somehow" after seeing videos of people spamming light attacks until enemy dies - rolling - spamming light attacks until enemy parries, etc. Eventually I ended up having a lot of fun just by using everything at my disposal, all signs, bombs, traps, throwing daggers and approaching each fight differently. Not because I needed to, but because it was fun.

 

I'll never uderstand people who play for 'maximum efficiency' and then complain how the gameplay is boring because the most effective style happens to involve mashing 2 buttons or something. Do you play games to prove something/to exploit their defficiencies or to have fun?(general rhetorical question, not a response) If the game does not force you to play in an entertaining way, make your own fun. It's extremely difficult to design a combat system that would not get exploited sooner or later. If a player skips entire aspects of the gameplay because they don't need them to win, there is noone else to blame for making it boring. 

 

Motto of the day: Create. Your. Own. Challenge.

Oh believe me i am using all the tools at my disposal, but i think the gameplay was exceptional in The Witcher 2 and its lesser here. The talent system is somehow more passive and it doesn't give the room to explore builds. That is just my opinion and i don't find the gameplay to be engaging enough so far. We'll see later on if it actually develops into something more. 



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Yeah, the core gameplay is the game's one big weakness. Everyhing else- story, writing, quest design, exploration, graphics, atmosphere- is really top notch. CDPR outdid themselves on those fronts. But the combat is highly repetitive, and no, it's not 4 bombs and a few meager potion buffs per meditation that change anything to the fact that the vast majority of enemies require ye olde attack attack dodge Quen routine to be beaten in a manageable time frame. Parry is pretty much only useful against humans, and even then only if they are few and don,t have two-handed weapons. Against literally anything else? This is dodge city, population Geralt.

 

The skill system is also, well, boring? I still remember some skills in TW2 giving you big bonuses, like Adrenaline attacks or just a big fat bunch of HP that made you much tankier. Here it's mostly, oh, +5% fast attack damage, yay. You get alternative Sign attacks but from what I've used they are pretty lackluster. The skill slot limit is as useless as it was in DA:I too.

 

Breakable weapons are also a bad idea methinks. At least they should break more slowly. If the idea is to have a gold sink, give the player less gold, for instance by not showering them with loot and expensive crafting materials and making theft harder.

 

Level locked loot wouldn't be so bad if the game didn't throw level 20-30 schematics at you even in the early game so you just look at your crafting screen and cry because you can't equip the good stuff yet.

 

It's just not the game's strength. I just did my first ture dungeon in a main story quest, and even if I outleveled it I only wanted it to end eventually because it was fight after fight and that is simply the worst part of the game.

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm loving the game, but this is definitely despite it's combat system.


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Just finnished some stuff on Skellige with Yen.

 

I gotta admit, I kinda regret having already romanced Triss in this playthrough. I mean, I love her to bits, but Yenn is amazing as well. I just love her confidence and interactions with Geralt.


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Fucked Up Fairytales: The Even Fucked Up Edition. I ought to scour around some gaming sites, see how the trigger babies are handling dark fantasy.

 

 

 

Breakable weapons are also a bad idea methinks. At least they should break more slowly. If the idea is to have a gold sink, give the player less gold, for instance by not showering them with loot and expensive crafting materials and making theft harder.

 

Apart from survival horrors (Silent Hill 2 in particular), item durability adds nothing significant to the gameplay, it really needs to die.



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The most recent patch appears to have fixed all of my crashing problems. Haven't gotten one for ages now, touch wood.
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I liked the fighting in the first game, because it felt like that is how the Witchers fight, the rythm in the combat as you charge up the combos.

Nope. TW3 is far more closer to how Witcher swordplay was told in the books. CDP is simply following canon closer.

 

TW3 combat is fun, much more fun then the clunky mess in TW2 or borefest in TW.


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Witcher 3 is a masterpiece! For me its the RPG of the year 2015. 


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Witcher 3 is a masterpiece! For me its the RPG of the year 2015. 

What if there is a surprise release of Fallout 4 late this year? :D



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What if there is a surprise release of Fallout 4 late this year? :D

If it's made from Bethesda then lolno, now if it is made from Obsidian, TEW3 would have good competition.


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If it's made from Bethesda then lolno, now if it is made from Obsidian, TEW3 would have good competition.

Am i the only one that vastly prefer Fallout 3 to New Vegas? Both great games ofc. 



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What if there is a surprise release of Fallout 4 late this year? :D

 

ok. that would probably change something. I loved Failout :)

 

Who knows, what comes out this year. ME4 Cyberpunk 2077, Fallout 4 maybe?

 

Anyway Im really impressed how fast CD Project patches bugs. three patches so far. In DAI we had to wait several months for 3 patches.


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What if there is a surprise release of Fallout 4 late this year? :D

 

I think there won't be a Fallout 4 this year but rather Doom 4. They even released a teaser for it already. 

 

The Witcher 3 Wild Hunt set a new gold standard for RPG games, just like Elder Scrolls V Skyrim did when it came out a few years back. 

 

All other RPG developers will be looking at this game closely and see what features they could incorporate into their games. 

 

Most probably they will incorporate the superb side quests, the high level of immersion, the grey-ness of the world. That means changing things which will see Fallout 4 delayed just a wee bit further. 



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Damn. Remember that Rose of Remembrance, the one that was never supposed to wilt if given to someone you love?

Just found it dried up and dead in Triss' cupboard. Probably happened as soon as Geralt got his memory back tbh. :S
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Damn. Remember that Rose of Remembrance, the one that was never supposed to wilt if given to someone you love?

Just found it dried up and dead in Triss' cupboard. Probably happened as soon as Geralt got his memory back tbh. :S

Loved that detail. And it struck me aswell. What i loved about it was that you don't have to go into the house at that point in the story, but if you do, you are rewarded with this extra little detail. 



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Damn. Remember that Rose of Remembrance, the one that was never supposed to wilt if given to someone you love?

Just found it dried up and dead in Triss' cupboard. Probably happened as soon as Geralt got his memory back tbh. :S

 

Oh my god no

 

why

 

Welp, best find another one when I choose Triss over Yennefer!

 

I also feel bad about killing Keira now. But to be fair, if she had just giving me the notes, she wouldn't of died!


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Loved that detail. And it struck me aswell. What i loved about it was that you don't have to go into the house at that point in the story, but if you do, you are rewarded with this extra little detail.


Hmm, gotta wonder though, does that happen in every import? Makes sense in mine, but some, like people who actually saved her from Nilfgaard in TW2, might make sense to have it intact.

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That's a good question. I'll have to check in mine, as I saved her at the end of TW2.

 

With luck it'll be on display if thats the decision you made in TW2. And if you didn't save her, its understandable it withered. 



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At last got some good alone time with Yen, yesssssssssssss.



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Oh my god no

 

why

 

Welp, best find another one when I choose Triss over Yennefer!

 

I also feel bad about killing Keira now. But to be fair, if she had just giving me the notes, she wouldn't of died!

 

Eh? In my game she gave them willingly.



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The skill system is also, well, boring? I still remember some skills in TW2 giving you big bonuses, like Adrenaline attacks or just a big fat bunch of HP that made you much tankier. Here it's mostly, oh, +5% fast attack damage, yay. You get alternative Sign attacks but from what I've used they are pretty lackluster. The skill slot limit is as useless as it was in DA:I too.

Not to mention needing to drag them into slots for them to work is inane as well.



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Hmm, gotta wonder though, does that happen in every import? Makes sense in mine, but some, like people who actually saved her from Nilfgaard in TW2, might make sense to have it intact.

 

I think it happens because of the break-up. CDPR probably wanted to enter Witcher 3 with a clean slate so that people wouldn't feel obligated to romance Triss.

 

From what I gathered, Triss and Geralt break up no matter what choice you made in Witcher 2.



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Was reading the art book, very nice but if you have not read the books don't look at it as it spoils the masked elves identity.



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Zoltan's conversations with Geralt are still perfect and has the most feels to me. Choked up abit on a few occasions. I love that Dwarf.



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I haven't met Zoltan or Dandelion yet. Are they in the main quest, or sidequests?